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Title: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Zeta on September 27, 2017, 12:42:43 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Pokémon
Game: Pokémon Ranger
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: Ringtown
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Trasdegi (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5177)

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Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on September 27, 2017, 12:43:06 PM
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Latios212 on September 27, 2017, 01:28:12 PM
This is pretty good; I like the simplicity of the arrangement.

However, the melody gets lost at times, like in measure 2-3. Try keeping the countermelody below the melody; its jumping above obscures the intended sound.

Is there a reason for the staccato at the end?
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on September 27, 2017, 01:55:29 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on September 27, 2017, 01:28:12 PMThis is pretty good; I like the simplicity of the arrangement.

However, the melody gets lost at times, like in measure 2-3. Try keeping the countermelody below the melody; its jumping above obscures the intended sound.

Is there a reason for the staccato at the end?


1. Thanks!
2. Yes I know, but how can I do that? I'm  thinking of lowering it by an octave between m1 b3 and m2 b 2.5, doubling the E, same with m4-5, but I don't know if it would sound well, and I can't test now because no computer access. What do you think about that?
3. There isn't any reason, I'll edit this
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: FireArrow on September 27, 2017, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on September 27, 2017, 01:28:12 PMHowever, the melody gets lost at times, like in measure 2-3. Try keeping the countermelody below the melody; its jumping above obscures the intended sound.

This is just a finale playback thing. A perfomer would be able to bring out the intended voice. That being said, notate them as seperate voices even when their rhythms coincide so the reader can tell which voice is doing what (also in the last measure too plss.)

also measure numbers
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on September 27, 2017, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: FireArrow on September 27, 2017, 10:20:10 PMThis is just a finale playback thing. A perfomer would be able to bring out the intended voice. That being said, notate them as seperate voices even when their rhythms coincide so the reader can tell which voice is doing what (also in the last measure too plss.)

Ok so I'll keep the original octaves and change the voicing.

Quote from: FireArrow on September 27, 2017, 10:20:10 PMalso measure numbers

I'll need someone to add them when all changes will be made
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on September 28, 2017, 08:12:25 AM
Files updated!
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Latios212 on September 28, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: FireArrow on September 27, 2017, 10:20:10 PMThis is just a finale playback thing. A perfomer would be able to bring out the intended voice. That being said, notate them as seperate voices even when their rhythms coincide so the reader can tell which voice is doing what (also in the last measure too plss.)
That's fair, but another thing I neglected to mention is that the countermelody is below the melody in the original, so why raise it above at all?
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on September 28, 2017, 12:57:06 PM
Because I wanted to avoid hand-crossing and it sounded better the way it is now
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: FireArrow on September 28, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on September 28, 2017, 09:02:09 AMThat's fair, but another thing I neglected to mention is that the countermelody is below the melody in the original, so why raise it above at all?


Oh i listened to the original and didnt even notice lol. Well unless it doesnt work in its originl octave at all then yeah, youre probably right.

Quote from: Trasdegi on September 28, 2017, 12:57:06 PMBecause I wanted to avoid hand-crossing and it sounded better the way it is now

I did say that the pianist could bring out the main voice but do note that doing so is highly technical and not easy when both voices are played by the same hand. Crossing hands may actually be the simpler solution. Thats up to you and the updates though.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on September 29, 2017, 11:30:00 AM
Hmm, I tested and I find than having the counter melody in the middle of the accompaniment is ... meh. What do you think about it, latios?
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on December 03, 2017, 11:19:47 AM
Files replaced with the last version, including some change in notation to make it easier to read.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on January 23, 2018, 12:16:42 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41m3GcBmlrL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: AmpharosAndy on January 27, 2018, 11:45:03 AM
Wow, it's been a while with this one! Not much to say here:

- You don't need to re-state that it's a piano each time, the first is enough.

- Maybe move the tempo marking up a bit to get out of the way of the notes a bit.

thassit yeh
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on January 28, 2018, 03:22:00 AM
Quote from: AmpharosAndy on January 27, 2018, 11:45:03 AM- You don't need to re-state that it's a piano each time, the first is enough.

I can't fix this with finale NotePad.

Quote from: AmpharosAndy on January 27, 2018, 11:45:03 AM- Maybe move the tempo marking up a bit to get out of the way of the notes a bit.

Fixed!
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on February 25, 2018, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on January 23, 2018, 12:16:42 PM(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41m3GcBmlrL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on March 17, 2018, 05:59:31 PM
Bump
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on April 30, 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Quote from: Trasdegi on February 25, 2018, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on January 23, 2018, 12:16:42 PM(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41m3GcBmlrL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: AmpharosAndy on May 01, 2018, 06:14:21 AM
ooh just noticed you could lose the restatement of piano/pia. every time.

Other than that, this needs to be accepted asap hahah it's been forever
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on May 01, 2018, 08:36:12 AM
Yeah, buuuut... I can't do that with notepad.... Could anyone else please fix it?
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: AmpharosAndy on May 01, 2018, 09:06:28 AM
haha whoops didn't realise I already said that
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on May 19, 2018, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on April 30, 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Quote from: Trasdegi on February 25, 2018, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on January 23, 2018, 12:16:42 PM(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41m3GcBmlrL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on May 26, 2018, 12:55:26 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on May 19, 2018, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on April 30, 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Quote from: Trasdegi on February 25, 2018, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on January 23, 2018, 12:16:42 PM(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41m3GcBmlrL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: InsigTurtle on June 01, 2018, 01:27:12 AM
Needs some measure numbers (we can add those later if you aren't able to)
I'd add some way of distinguishing the instruments in m.6 since you have a completely different timbre coming in
In m.8 I still hear an E as the top note for beat 3, so you could just make it a D-E dyad.

Perhaps you could include the bass? The movement there could make it a tad more interesting. Experiment a bit, see if it works to your liking. If not, that's fine!
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on June 06, 2018, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: InsigTurtle on June 01, 2018, 01:27:12 AMNeeds some measure numbers (we can add those later if you aren't able to)
I'd add some way of distinguishing the instruments in m.6 since you have a completely different timbre coming in
In m.8 I still hear an E as the top note for beat 3, so you could just make it a D-E dyad.

Perhaps you could include the bass? The movement there could make it a tad more interesting. Experiment a bit, see if it works to your liking. If not, that's fine!

1. I tried to dive into manual MusicXML editing, and it worked out pretty well!
2. I think distinguishing here is far less important that it was on the first half (between melody/countermelody). Here both instruments are playing the melody, so it should transition nicely enough I think.
3. Fixed.

4. Well, I tried, but either it collides with the current LH, or it's far too low to be playable. And I quite like having a similar LH all the way long in this one...


Everything (Including formatting!) should be good!
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on June 18, 2018, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on May 26, 2018, 12:55:26 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on May 19, 2018, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on April 30, 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Quote from: Trasdegi on February 25, 2018, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on January 23, 2018, 12:16:42 PM(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41m3GcBmlrL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Sebastian on June 18, 2018, 11:41:55 AM
@BespinBen

Do you have any more comments for this sheet?


EDIT: If Ben doesn't respond soon, I'll go ahead and check it for ya.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: FireArrow on June 18, 2018, 08:04:12 PM
yeh idk why this is still here its not that complicated a piece
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on June 23, 2018, 01:16:41 PM
Quote from: Trasdegi on June 18, 2018, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on May 26, 2018, 12:55:26 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on May 19, 2018, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on April 30, 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Quote from: Trasdegi on February 25, 2018, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Trasdegi on January 23, 2018, 12:16:42 PM(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41m3GcBmlrL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Static on June 24, 2018, 06:38:21 PM
Hey, sorry for the wait! Great sheet you got here, I just have a few things:

- The first system needs to be indented.
- The distances between staves should be increased so the layers isn't so squished together.
- The composer/arranger info should probably me moved just a tad lower so it isn't as close to the title.
- In beat 3 of the 2nd layer in m10, it should be 2 8th notes, F & A, instead of a quarter note A.
- The 2nd layer in m13-14 should have a dashed line to indicate the movement of the inner voice from one hand to the other (Smart Shape Tool > Dashed Line Tool).
- The notes in the 2nd layer should be played for full length in m7-14 until the next note (i.e. the quarter note in m12 should be a dotted half note, etc.).

Because you can't do most of these in NotePad, here's (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ecHhEXmrbJf-YvuUZAZot9uJlbuVGOst) a fully edited file. If it looks good, feel free to use it.
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Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on June 29, 2018, 05:25:45 AM
There's one thing I disagree with: there is a quarter note A in m10, and that eigth F is already in the RH. Apart from this, files updated.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Static on June 29, 2018, 08:02:28 AM
Oops, my bad with the A & F there; you're right. Everything else looks great, nice work!
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger - "Ringtown" by Trasdegi
Post by: Zeta on June 29, 2018, 08:10:07 AM
This submission has been accepted by Static (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4960).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot