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Title: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 30, 2018, 10:30:39 AM
TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game

1. octoling
2. octoling
3. inkling
4. inkling
5. inkling
6. inkling
7. inkling
8. Pearl
9. Marina

Two octolings have disguised themselves as inklings and are hidden among them. If left un-splatted, they'll surely plot to steal the Great Zapfish: the source of all power in Inkopolis.

This game starts on a night phase (normal). During the night phases octolings agree on a single inkling in which to splat (kill). During day phases everyone votes on a player to splat.

This game has two special roles: the two trendy idols from Off the Hook: Pearl and Marina. Both are seers. Pearl, the false-prophet, seers players the opposite color for which they are. However, if Pearl happens to seer Marina, they will appear blue. Marina is the true savior, so she seers players their correct color. Players with these roles are not told which idol they are, and are simply told that they are a member of off the hook. They do not know each other. Their abilities will begin night 2.

The inklings and OtH idols win when both octolings are spatted. The octolings win when the number of living inklings (OtH included) are equal or less than them. There are no cardflips upon death.

The postgame for this game will get a phase-by-phase photoshopped comic to tell the tale of what happened.

Players:

Role PMs
You are an octoling. Your partner is _____.

You are an inkling. Woomy!

You are a member of Off the Hook! Don't get cooked!
[close]

Discord chatroom link: https://discord.gg/rhMuaez

All role PMs have been sent. It is now Night 1. Night one ends in roughly 24 hours.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 30, 2018, 10:31:34 AM
All role PMs have been sent. There was one error, so if you received two role pms, the second one is the correct one and should say that. It is now Night 1. Night one ends in roughly 24 hours.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 30, 2018, 10:31:51 AM
Woomy. :J
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on January 30, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
woo!
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 30, 2018, 10:38:39 AM
Night chat is permitted in this game.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 30, 2018, 10:42:29 AM
XD I spell my name backward once and this happens.

Quote from: Brawler4Ever on January 30, 2018, 10:34:23 AMwoomy!
Ftfy
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on January 30, 2018, 10:54:10 AM
Woomy~

ok so who here doesn't woomy?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: SuperMarina on January 30, 2018, 11:11:43 AM
W o o m y
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 30, 2018, 11:24:21 AM
Woomy!
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 30, 2018, 11:28:27 AM
Btw that edit was to fix a mistake in the coloring. I left off a ]
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 30, 2018, 11:29:05 AM
Brainy this is your warning: messages are not to be edited in TWG.

ninjad. Don't do that again.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 30, 2018, 11:33:31 AM
Yeah yeah. I know. It was just bugging me
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on January 30, 2018, 11:45:54 AM
Hot call: Mikey and Raeko are the octolings

Woomy!
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: SuperMarina on January 30, 2018, 11:48:03 AM
Sounds like something an octoling would say.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 30, 2018, 12:20:58 PM
The Discord chatroom is up: https://discord.gg/rhMuaez
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: raeko on January 30, 2018, 12:22:26 PM
Quote from: Celirra on January 30, 2018, 11:45:54 AMHot call: Mikey and Raeko are the octolings

Woomy!

I wish! we would make a great team. I was going to suggest an FFR alliance but your immediate distrust of me has hurt my feelings </3
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on January 30, 2018, 12:24:40 PM
I am too Woomy for alliances with octolings!
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 30, 2018, 12:27:52 PM
I claim Marie as my waifu
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 30, 2018, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: Celirra on January 30, 2018, 11:45:54 AMHot call: Mikey and Raeko are the octolings

Woomy!
hot call

more like

hot mess

  8)
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 30, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
BDS
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 30, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: mikey on January 30, 2018, 01:30:12 PMBDS
Why?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 30, 2018, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 30, 2018, 01:36:31 PMWhy?
it's night time fool

he's just being silly
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 30, 2018, 08:46:52 PM
What's the timestamp on phase end?  Is it noon or 4 or 1 2 3 7
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 30, 2018, 08:51:12 PM
The phase ends 24 hours from the post time of the op (not the edit time), so do the math for whatever time zone you're in. I'll probably change the next phase in order to push back phase changes until after school gets out so that I'll be late less.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 31, 2018, 06:43:46 AM
Tras since I literally don't know who to vote for yet, and I might not have internet access at the night ending
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 31, 2018, 09:29:52 AM
um
you feelin ok?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 31, 2018, 09:42:39 AM
PSA: night 1 will be extended for 4 additional hours. Unforeseen circumstances prevent me from being home at that time, plus we needed to push back the phase change a little bit anyway.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 31, 2018, 09:52:25 AM
all good
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 31, 2018, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 31, 2018, 06:43:46 AMTras since I literally don't know who to vote for yet, and I might not have internet access at the night ending
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 30, 2018, 01:55:51 PMit's night time fool
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on January 31, 2018, 11:04:36 AM
Oh yeah. I got like 3 hours of sleep last night. Sorry about that
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 31, 2018, 02:34:53 PM
TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game

1. octoling
2. octoling
3. inkling
4. inkling
5. inkling
6. inkling
7. inkling
8. Pearl
9. Marina

Two octolings have disguised themselves as inklings and are hidden among them. If left un-splatted, they'll surely plot to steal the Great Zapfish: the source of all power in Inkopolis.

This game starts on a night phase (normal). During the night phases octolings agree on a single inkling in which to splat (kill). During day phases everyone votes on a player to splat.

This game has two special roles: the two trendy idols from Off the Hook: Pearl and Marina. Both are seers. Pearl, the false-prophet, seers players the opposite color for which they are. However, if Pearl happens to seer Marina, they will appear blue. Marina is the true savior, so she seers players their correct color. Players with these roles are not told which idol they are, and are simply told that they are a member of off the hook. They do not know each other. Their abilities will begin night 2.

The inklings and OtH idols win when both octolings are spatted. The octolings win when the number of living inklings (OtH included) are equal or less than them. There are no cardflips upon death.

The postgame for this game will get a phase-by-phase photoshopped comic to tell the tale of what happened.

Players:

Role PMs
You are an octoling. Your partner is _____.

You are an inkling. Woomy!

You are a member of Off the Hook! Don't get cooked!
[close]

Discord chatroom link: https://discord.gg/rhMuaez

Night 1 has ended. BDS was found dead. It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends 48 hours from now.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 31, 2018, 03:37:22 PM
BDS rip is just as expected, I guess.  Right now I'm slightly suspicious of E Gadd, Raeko, and Brainy (duh)
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on January 31, 2018, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: mikey on January 31, 2018, 03:37:22 PMRight now I'm slightly suspicious of E Gadd, Raeko, and Brainy (duh)

Why are you suspicious of these two? I think the Brainy suspicion was covered a bit so don't worry about that, but give me some info for the other two cuties.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on January 31, 2018, 03:42:40 PM
Also I'm gonna say here, if anyone wants to discuss twg and such, message me on discord. 1 on 1 conversations do help quite a lot, and we don't have much time since 2 mislynches = a loss for us.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: SuperMarina on January 31, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
I've got my eye on Brawler. He's suspicious in his diction and psychology.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on January 31, 2018, 07:39:43 PM
claiming intent to vote no lynch



this is mostly so I can be the first person to do so
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 31, 2018, 07:41:49 PM
E Gadd Industries
screw you, I don't need reasoning
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on January 31, 2018, 07:42:23 PM
to clarify "screw you" refers to the passive observer bringing up the obvious fact there seems to be no reason for my vote on E Gadd, not to E Gadd himself

thank you
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: davy on February 01, 2018, 01:07:53 AM
TWC Post

Quote from: Celirra on January 31, 2018, 07:39:43 PMclaiming intent to vote no lynch

Unless stated otherwise, no lynch is not an option in TWG's on this forum.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 01, 2018, 10:53:01 AM
Quote from: davy on February 01, 2018, 01:07:53 AMTWC Post

Unless stated otherwise, no lynch is not an option in TWG's on this forum.

twas mostly a joke anyways

(no lynch would help a lot in this setup though)
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 01, 2018, 07:18:07 PM
1.   BrainyLucario- mildly towny
Brainy's in a weird spot right now because
Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 30, 2018, 01:36:31 PMWhy?
and
Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 31, 2018, 06:43:46 AMTras since I literally don't know who to vote for yet, and I might not have internet access at the night ending
Overall this leads me to think he's town, but screwing up like this isn't really alignment indicative
2.   mikey- town
3.   BlackDragonSlayer- town
4.   E. Gadd Industries- wolf
E gadd is more suspicious than most other people in the game.
Spoiler
9:18 PM] E. Gadd Industries: Uhh... I feel like that's just mikey being mikey, I'm honestly thinking you, Raeko (no offence or anything), because of the seer thing. Otherwise, Brainy, because he does weird crap like that when he isn't town (but that's a double-edged sword, because he could also be OtH)
[9:18 PM] E. Gadd Industries: The first thing is directed at Brawler's suspicions, not Raeko
***
9:15 PM] E. Gadd Industries: It's tough to say... I'll have to review the thread and make a suspicion post there (but probz not tonight because I still have more homework and I'm dying, but definitely tomorrow before the phase ends)
[close]
This is his only post in the thread:
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on January 30, 2018, 10:42:29 AMXD I spell my name backward once and this happens.
Ftfy
5.   SuperMarina- town
SuperMarina seems pretty towny aside from his self-deprecation, which is usually wolfy.  But he's got his suspicions and he's coming along, so I'm willing to town read him for now- can easily change on a whim
6.   Trasdegi- null
hasn't really done a lot
Spoiler
3:44 PM] Trasdegi: Nope
[3:45 PM] Trasdegi: So about that seer plan: the only problem is to have someone confirmed town, and I don't really see how to do that...
[3:47 PM] Trasdegi: The thing that brainy did can easily be imputed to him being tired
[3:50 PM] Trasdegi: And there's that egadd vote with no reasoning too
[close]
also hasn't posted in the thread
7.   Brawler4Ever- slightly towny
he's been interacting in the discord when he can and has some good stuff there that I'm suddenly too lazy to dig up.
8.   Celirra- town
Celery is following the same train of thought I am [MINDMELD] and even if he didn't suggest a great plan, suggesting it was towny to me.  He's one of the towniest players in the game so far.
9.   Raeko- town
in an interaction with raeko she responded well enough for me to town read her.  Of course, she was high, so logic kinda flies out the window at that point.


So with the amount of information we have so far, E Gadd looks to be the best lynch to me, closely followed by Trasdegi and brainy (for ???).  Not entirely happy about voting for either of them, but would do so.  Tier 3 lynch targets (I'm not comfortable with it, but would vote to self pres, for example) are Raeko, SuperMarina, and Brawler.  I wouldn't vote for anyone else
heh
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 01, 2018, 08:49:58 PM
I've gone over the chat a couple of times (yay searchbar!). I'd say my top three suspects are:
1. SuperMarina
2. Celery
3. Brainy

Brainy made a couple of mistakes, and it was a couple of mistakes that (simply put) should not have been made. There's no excuse for it, but I don't believe that there's enough there to call him a wolf. He's been relatively quiet so far, so I'm willing to let him slide for now.

Celery's seer plan did not sit well with me. At first, I suspected mikey because of his initial comment about being the middleman in the plan. Upon rereading, I realized that it was the entire plan that didn't make sense to me. The main problem with the plan is that, until Day 2, there is no way to confirm a human. And even then, it would be incredibly difficult, unless one Seer Saw the other. While Celery would later retract his plan, stating that he didn't want it to happen right now, it still felt wrong to me, overall.

However, my main argument is against SuperMarina. Being new or bad at a game is fine. There's nothing wrong with it. However, an overwhelming number of your posts seek to remind us of this fact. I almost feel bad about wanting to go after you, which I fear is the purpose of the posts. As a wolf, could you not want to appear weak and helpless?

Examples
SuperMarina - Yesterday at 4:51 PM
I'm bad at the game like that

SuperMarina - Today at 7:28 PM
It's suspicie because I'm bad at the game, and I'm trusting my knowledge of psychology.


SuperMarina - Today at 7:40 PM
Exactly. Hence why I'm probably being bad at this.
[close]

There are other examples as well. Instances of not knowing terminology (of which I am also guilty). Having suspicions but not discussing them. Again, there's nothing wrong with not knowing everything. But I feel that appearing weak and helpless is more wolfy than other arguments that have been made.

SuperMarina. This is a weak argument, to be sure. But with so little information and not a great deal of time left in the phase, I feel that this is my best guess as to finding a wolf this phase.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 05:46:45 AM
In response to Noc, So if your suspicions are correct, that means that we have 1 confirmed wolf at the start of the game? I mean i trust your judgement due to your experience, but I still read E. Gadd as mildly towny given the fact that fake suspicion on him has cost us the game multiple times.

In response to Brawler, Rushing into things is never a good idea, especially with as little evidence as we have. I get the fact that we have little time left, but still.

Tras imo, isn't helping in the slightest, which might just be time difference or something, but it still doesn't help Team Inkling, and possibly helps Team Octoling. So because of this, I'm willing to cast a vote on Tras for now.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: SuperMarina on February 02, 2018, 08:01:40 AM
With what I do have to go off of, I'm going to secure my formal vote on Brawler.
He has misconstrued Celery's "plan," and with little evidences, has voted me for my self-deprecation. Understand that I'm always self-deprecating, so I personally feel this has little solidity, but I must admit that the self-deprecation is making me a sitting duck for suspicion.
He tries to twists questions into exposing someone's wolfy qualities, only if they were to have any, despite them possibly being towny or seer/false proph. The duty of a wolf to twist the narrative, eh?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 02, 2018, 08:36:28 AM
It was mikey that said that wolves twist the narrative. I would say that it is the duty of every player to twist the narrative.

Are you not twisting the narrative against me, right now? ;)

Quote from: SuperMarina on February 02, 2018, 08:01:40 AMHe has misconstrued Celery's "plan," and with little evidences, has voted me for my self-deprecation. Understand that I'm always self-deprecating, so I personally feel this has little solidity, but I must admit that the self-deprecation is making me a sitting duck for suspicion.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 02, 2018, 08:38:47 AM
DRAMA
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 02, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
if this is t/w, I think brawler is town
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: mikey on February 02, 2018, 08:43:24 AMif this is t/w, I think brawler is town
I'm getting the opposite read on him, He's acting more like a wolf to me
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 10:06:54 AM
There are about 4 hours left currently.

I want to propose that everyone says their votes sooner than later, but not enough to drop a hammer (don't "officially" vote, just say who you have intent to vote for) so we can avoid a CFD scenario, or a potential (fake)claim of seer that can throw a kink in the lynching.

Expressing comfort in voting E. Gadd
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 10:09:36 AM
Speaking of that let me post this chat log

Chat Log voicing Mikey's reasoning
@Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow  could you possibly further  explain your read on E. Gadd to me? Private or public idk
*Idc

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:36 AM
what do you want
E Gadd is in a weird spot playstyle wise where he's still trying to figure out how to respond to pressure, but I'm not a fan of the nonchalance

Brainy - Today at 10:37 AM
I was mostly talking about your inclusion of his only post in the thread

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:38 AM
that's his only post
a meme and an "ftfy""

Brainy - Today at 10:40 AM
So? Seems like a normal first post. What does his post count have to do with his township, iyo?

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:40 AM
he hasn't done anything, much like trasdegi

Brainy - Today at 10:41 AM
Yet you read Tras as [Null]

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:41 AM
whereas trasdegi's posts are more cautious/neutral, E Gadd's feels more like saying something just for the sake of something
"uhh raeko cause seer thing, brainy cause ???, that good enough?"

Brainy - Today at 10:47 AM
Hm... okay, I can see your point now.  But E. Gadd furthered his explanation out of me by including the fact that I made the mistake twice, even after I was called out for it after the first gag vote you made
He's trying way more than Tras is, who pushed it off as me being probably just tired.

Brawler4Ever - Today at 10:49 AM
so, mikey, you're against E Gadd because you feel that his posts lack weight and are just filler to cover for the fact that he's not really contributing?

Brainy - Today at 10:49 AM
He's clearly trying to contribute, though

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:49 AM
if you had to put words into my mouth those words would be as good as any I guess

Brawler4Ever - Today at 10:50 AM
yeah, I was trying to voice mikey's opinion rather than any actual "facts"
it's a basis of opinion what actually counts as "contributing"
sorry for "quotes"
your main arguement with E Gadd is (essentially) this comment: " Uhh... I feel like that's just mikey being mikey, I'm honestly thinking you, Raeko (no offence or anything), because of the seer thing. Otherwise, Brainy, because he does weird crap like that when he isn't town (but that's a double-edged sword, because he could also be OtH)
The first thing is directed at Brawler's suspicions, not Raeko" -E Gadd
correct?
corect-ish?

Brainy - Today at 12:01 PM
Let it be known that I'm not trying to put wolfish intent on Noc's vote. I just wanted to help clarify his reasoning. I read Noc as town so far
Noc being mikey
[close]
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 10:19:22 AM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 10:09:36 AMSpeaking of that let me post this chat log

Chat Log voicing Mikey's reasoning
@Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow  could you possibly further  explain your read on E. Gadd to me? Private or public idk
*Idc

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:36 AM
what do you want
E Gadd is in a weird spot playstyle wise where he's still trying to figure out how to respond to pressure, but I'm not a fan of the nonchalance

Brainy - Today at 10:37 AM
I was mostly talking about your inclusion of his only post in the thread

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:38 AM
that's his only post
a meme and an "ftfy""

Brainy - Today at 10:40 AM
So? Seems like a normal first post. What does his post count have to do with his township, iyo?

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:40 AM
he hasn't done anything, much like trasdegi

Brainy - Today at 10:41 AM
Yet you read Tras as [Null]

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:41 AM
whereas trasdegi's posts are more cautious/neutral, E Gadd's feels more like saying something just for the sake of something
"uhh raeko cause seer thing, brainy cause ???, that good enough?"

Brainy - Today at 10:47 AM
Hm... okay, I can see your point now.  But E. Gadd furthered his explanation out of me by including the fact that I made the mistake twice, even after I was called out for it after the first gag vote you made
He's trying way more than Tras is, who pushed it off as me being probably just tired.

Brawler4Ever - Today at 10:49 AM
so, mikey, you're against E Gadd because you feel that his posts lack weight and are just filler to cover for the fact that he's not really contributing?

Brainy - Today at 10:49 AM
He's clearly trying to contribute, though

Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 10:49 AM
if you had to put words into my mouth those words would be as good as any I guess

Brawler4Ever - Today at 10:50 AM
yeah, I was trying to voice mikey's opinion rather than any actual "facts"
it's a basis of opinion what actually counts as "contributing"
sorry for "quotes"
your main arguement with E Gadd is (essentially) this comment: " Uhh... I feel like that's just mikey being mikey, I'm honestly thinking you, Raeko (no offence or anything), because of the seer thing. Otherwise, Brainy, because he does weird crap like that when he isn't town (but that's a double-edged sword, because he could also be OtH)
The first thing is directed at Brawler's suspicions, not Raeko" -E Gadd
correct?
corect-ish?

Brainy - Today at 12:01 PM
Let it be known that I'm not trying to put wolfish intent on Noc's vote. I just wanted to help clarify his reasoning. I read Noc as town so far
Noc being mikey
[close]

What are you trying to accomplish with this? Give me proper reasoning and thoughts and a committed stance, I'm starting to become very suspicious of you.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 02, 2018, 10:39:10 AM
For my part in Mikey vs E. Gadd, neither seems particularly wolfy to me.

E. Gadd has made several comments that have been deemed to have no "weight" or "contribution". I don't disagree with this assessment.

Mikey sees this as wolfish and intends to lynch E. Gadd. I see him as being slightly aggressive in this matter, but nothing that seems suspicious.

Neither case has enough value to me. I'm going to keep my vote on SuperMarina, who I personally believe has the best case of being a wolf of the three. I will stay tuned, though, in case I change my mind before the end of the phase.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 02, 2018, 10:46:10 AM
Okay, here are my thoughts, Celirra
-I was interested in your plan because I deem it important that the seers communicate for human victory.
-When Raeko protested, I jumped on it because I didn't see the fallacies in Celirra's plan.
-Now I see the fallacies, so I understand where Raeko is coming from, so I am no longer suspicious.
-As of late I'm trying to reason how the seers could possibly be discerned between—because it's important to know who is corrupted and who isn't, and I haven't come up with much of anything conclusive. MAYBE context could be used, but we'd have to have a definite human lead or wolf read, not to mention actual room for trial and error.

Now here's why I think Celirra is wolfy:
-The seer post seems ill-timed. Wouldn't it make sense to post that in the second set of phases, when the seers can actually do something?
-Cripes, more defence will come later, the bell just rang
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 10:19:22 AMWhat are you trying to accomplish with this? Give me proper reasoning and thoughts and a committed stance, I'm starting to become very suspicious of you.
For what? Clarifying on his reasoning? My reasoning was proper and my stance is clearly a stance for E. Gadd. I seriously think you guys are misreading him. That's dangerous this early in the game. There is no reason for you to cast suspicion about me questioning someones reasoning
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 11:18:15 AM
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 02, 2018, 10:46:10 AMOkay, here are my thoughts, Celirra
-I was interested in your plan because I deem it important that the seers communicate for human victory.
-When Raeko protested, I jumped on it because I didn't see the fallacies in Celirra's plan.
-Now I see the fallacies, so I understand where Raeko is coming from, so I am no longer suspicious.
-As of late I'm trying to reason how the seers could possibly be discerned between—because it's important to know who is corrupted and who isn't, and I haven't come up with much of anything conclusive. MAYBE context could be used, but we'd have to have a definite human lead or wolf read, not to mention actual room for trial and error.

Now here's why I think Celirra is wolfy:
-The seer post seems ill-timed. Wouldn't it make sense to post that in the second set of phases, when the seers can actually do something?
-Cripes, more defence will come later, the bell just rang

I think it's convenient that you're flopping onto me being a wolf now that I'm pressuring you, likely as an attempt to discredit my claims against you. I'm curious to hear your further defense, if you have any, as well as why poor timing on discussing a strategy is wolfy.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 11:20:43 AM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 10:58:51 AMFor what? Clarifying on his reasoning? My reasoning was proper and my stance is clearly a stance for E. Gadd. I seriously think you guys are misreading him. That's dangerous this early in the game. There is no reason for you to cast suspicion about me questioning someones reasoning

You pretty much made a very light claim, then posted a quote of a very broad segment of the public discord chat. I don't think that accomplishes anything. I also don't even think the log is that useful, so unless you want to explain what specifically is so pertinent about it I think it's just an attempt to garner favour and look like you're doing hard solving work.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 11:35:42 AM
Quote from: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 11:20:43 AMYou pretty much made a very light claim, then posted a quote of a very broad segment of the public discord chat. I don't think that accomplishes anything. I also don't even think the log is that useful, so unless you want to explain what specifically is so pertinent about it I think it's just an attempt to garner favour and look like you're doing hard solving work.

I mostly posted the log because Dudeman usually looks through this thread and I thought it would be good to reference in the future, you also have no read on our play styles much like we have no read on yours so you can't just throw suspicions around willy nilly like you are. I've played and know E. Gadd well enough to know when he's usually a wolf, and believe me, he's acting pretty towny with his defense. I'm encouraging you to not vote for E. Gadd as false suspicions of him have cost me the game before and I don't want something like that to happen again.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 02, 2018, 11:47:34 AM
After discussing with Brawler over discord I've come to a final vote. SuperMarina
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 02, 2018, 01:58:48 PM
So to continue my thoughts on Celirra...
-"Diplomacy doesn't do any favours" or something along those lines...
That's how I play. I try to be the nice guy and figure out who I can trust. I'm too nice, and I keep getting f___ed in the process. And now, you seem to be getting very hostile that I tried your non political whatever.
-You aren't even acknowledging the fact that I'm critically thinking about the strategies for how to discern between Marina and Pearl despite specifically requesting proof of critical thinking to Ben posted in the thread. My deductions occur as things happen, as it gives more of what is most valuable here: information


So these are my thoughts. I'm not changing my vote at this point.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 02, 2018, 02:18:51 PM
SuperMarina
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 02:23:24 PM
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 02, 2018, 01:58:48 PM-"Diplomacy doesn't do any favours" or something along those lines...
That's how I play. I try to be the nice guy and figure out who I can trust. I'm too nice, and I keep getting f___ed in the process. And now, you seem to be getting very hostile that I tried your non political whatever.

I don't think I was particularly hostile, more just trying to get information from you; there's a difference between hostility and pressuring. Though I can appreciate the nice guy approach, I did that for a bulk of my last OoTC game and I got misled due to it. Niceness is fine but you also need to be able to accrue information out of it, and also form stances and have reasoning as a product of it, or it's futile and thus counter-town.

Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 02, 2018, 01:58:48 PM-You aren't even acknowledging the fact that I'm critically thinking about the strategies for how to discern between Marina and Pearl despite specifically requesting proof of critical thinking to Ben posted in the thread. My deductions occur as things happen, as it gives more of what is most valuable here: information

I didn't see any critical thinking of that regard in my overview of everything that occurred. I would recommend solidifying your opinions and thoughts in a more thorough manner to reduce misinterpretations. Honestly, I'm trying to think of when you did what you said you did, and I really don't remember it, or if you did it wasn't impactful enough for me.

What information have you accrued this game?

And since you seem dead set on me being a wolf, who is my wolf partner?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 02, 2018, 02:31:54 PM
SuperMarina
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 02, 2018, 02:39:24 PM
TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game

1. octoling
2. octoling
3. inkling
4. inkling
5. inkling
6. inkling
7. inkling
8. Pearl
9. Marina

Two octolings have disguised themselves as inklings and are hidden among them. If left un-splatted, they'll surely plot to steal the Great Zapfish: the source of all power in Inkopolis.

This game starts on a night phase (normal). During the night phases octolings agree on a single inkling in which to splat (kill). During day phases everyone votes on a player to splat.

This game has two special roles: the two trendy idols from Off the Hook: Pearl and Marina. Both are seers. Pearl, the false-prophet, seers players the opposite color for which they are. However, if Pearl happens to seer Marina, they will appear blue. Marina is the true savior, so she seers players their correct color. Players with these roles are not told which idol they are, and are simply told that they are a member of off the hook. They do not know each other. Their abilities will begin night 2.

The inklings and OtH idols win when both octolings are spatted. The octolings win when the number of living inklings (OtH included) are equal or less than them. There are no cardflips upon death.

The postgame for this game will get a phase-by-phase photoshopped comic to tell the tale of what happened.

Players:

Role PMs
You are an octoling. Your partner is _____.

You are an inkling. Woomy!

You are a member of Off the Hook! Don't get cooked!
[close]

Discord chatroom link: https://discord.gg/rhMuaez

Day 1 has ended. SuperMarina has been splat-lynched. It is now Night 2. Night 2 ends 24 hours from now.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 02, 2018, 02:39:54 PM
k goodnight
excited to see who gets killed
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 03, 2018, 10:10:24 AM
NEW RULE: Lynch victims get one death post. This will be their last words as they are held at gunpoint by the rest of the players.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: SuperMarina on February 03, 2018, 10:13:34 AM
"Hey, is that the new Splattersh-" *splat*
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 03, 2018, 10:29:04 AM
Quality deathpost
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 03, 2018, 03:07:03 PM

TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game

1. octoling
2. octoling
3. inkling
4. inkling
5. inkling
6. inkling
7. inkling
8. Pearl
9. Marina

Two octolings have disguised themselves as inklings and are hidden among them. If left un-splatted, they'll surely plot to steal the Great Zapfish: the source of all power in Inkopolis.

This game starts on a night phase (normal). During the night phases octolings agree on a single inkling in which to splat (kill). During day phases everyone votes on a player to splat.

This game has two special roles: the two trendy idols from Off the Hook: Pearl and Marina. Both are seers. Pearl, the false-prophet, seers players the opposite color for which they are. However, if Pearl happens to seer Marina, they will appear blue. Marina is the true savior, so she seers players their correct color. Players with these roles are not told which idol they are, and are simply told that they are a member of off the hook. They do not know each other. Their abilities will begin night 2.

The inklings and OtH idols win when both octolings are spatted. The octolings win when the number of living inklings (OtH included) are equal or less than them. There are no cardflips upon death.

The postgame for this game will get a phase-by-phase photoshopped comic to tell the tale of what happened.

Players:

Role PMs
You are an octoling. Your partner is _____.

You are an inkling. Woomy!

You are a member of Off the Hook! Don't get cooked!
[close]

Discord chatroom link: https://discord.gg/rhMuaez

Night 2 has ended. Raeko was found splatted. It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends 48 hours from now.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 03, 2018, 09:07:03 PM
@celirra
The best information I've come up with for this game was worked out with partly with Brawler.* I'm currently waiting on permission to post our chat log, but they haven't been on all day (I asked 11-12 hours ago)
*Why Brawler? Keep reading, I'll get to that.

As far as your partner, I could see it being Tras, for not contributing much (granted, they have a tendency to do that, but especially when they're a wolf). Brainy's still kinda up in the air. And as far as mikey is concerned, he hasn't done anything insanely weird for his style.

So with all of that being said, it's Day 2.
I'm Off the Hook.
That's why I jumped on your plan, Celirra. I was eager to find a way to have at least a chance of finding the other OtH and didn't stop to think of the possible implications of enacting said plan so early. Your plan is also why I decided to talk to Brawler, as they seemed to be rather interested in your plan, possibly indicating OtH alignment.
This is why I seer'd Brawler4Ever, in hopes of finding the other blue, but instead, I got green. Granted, that info isn't worth much, but these are the explanations for my actions.
Like I mentioned at the top, I'm waiting on Brawler's permission to post the chat log
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 03, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
Update: I was just cleared permission but I don't have access to PC (I wasn't anticipating receiving word until tomorrow morning or some point overnight while I was asleep), so chat logs will be coming around 7:30 AM CST
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 03, 2018, 09:51:04 PM
2 options: Celery is wolf/Celery is town
there's an interesting paradigm between celery/brawler/brainy that I'd like to hear more about

if celery is town we can just blindly trust his lynch order to win the game (meaning lynch brainy)
at this point E Gadd being off the hook makes celery's lynch order a bit weaker or confirms supermarina a wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 03, 2018, 09:52:18 PM
[5:55 PM] NocturneOfShadow: boii you better not be a wolf
[5:55 PM] NocturneOfShadow: it seems kind of unlikely that we're both on the same page if one of us is a wolf
[5:55 PM] NocturneOfShadow: so I think we can trust each other
[5:56 PM] NocturneOfShadow: regardless, here's something I said to E Gadd last night just to see what would happen
[5:56 PM] NocturneOfShadow: 10:41 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Hey in the off chance I croak in the night, I want you to know it's more likely the work of raeko or celery, or maybe BDS.
[10:48 PM] E. Gadd Industries: Alright. Are you telling this just to me or anyone else?
[10:49 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I would have told it to BDS, but given that he and I are the two most experienced players in the field, he might actually be willing to kill me as well
[10:50 PM] NocturneOfShadow: this is your assignment as your mentor: pay attention to how raeko and celery play because they are not familiar with the meta and will have a more "raw" playstyle
[10:50 PM] E. Gadd Industries: Noted. I'll definitely pay them a closer attention
[5:59 PM] NocturneOfShadow: It doesn't really end up in much, but I'm still kind of messing around with him I guess you could say
[5:59 PM] NocturneOfShadow: let's call it "a reaction test"
[5:59 PM] NocturneOfShadow: raeko is gut read
[6:00 PM] Celirra: kk
[6:00 PM] Celirra: I can'
[6:00 PM] Celirra: t speak much to him
[6:00 PM] Celirra: There's not enough for me to go off of yet
[6:00 PM] Celirra: Raeko gut read is weird
[6:00 PM] Celirra: idk if you've seen her play forum
[6:00 PM] Celirra: She's always very quiet
[6:00 PM] Celirra: Until she gets invested
[6:00 PM] Celirra: I'm gonna try to get her invested because it's the best way to tell
[6:00 PM] Celirra: one thing I know is she hates being wolf
[6:01 PM] Celirra: and that she loves solving
[6:12 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I can usually tell
[6:12 PM] NocturneOfShadow: there was a turbo a long time ago where I picked her out early day 1
[6:13 PM] NocturneOfShadow: didn't pick out charu, but
[6:13 PM] NocturneOfShadow: there was a reroll anyway
[6:46 PM] Celirra: Charu is hard to pick out
[6:46 PM] Celirra: So don't take that too hard
[6:46 PM] Celirra: He's always the balance where he's wolfy and towny at the same time
[6:46 PM] Celirra: he's a good pr basically
[6:47 PM] Celirra: er, not good
[6:47 PM] Celirra: but you know what I mean
[3:33 PM] Celirra: Remind me again of Trasdegi's meta
[3:33 PM] Celirra: if he has one
[3:34 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Strong and silent
[3:34 PM] Celirra: kk
[3:34 PM] Celirra: If I can resolve him as town we win
[3:34 PM] NocturneOfShadow: He's probably town just for the lack of eolfiness
[3:34 PM] Celirra: brawler is town 100%
[3:35 PM] Celirra: raeko is town like 80%
[3:35 PM] Celirra: if tras is town
[3:35 PM] Celirra: lynch order is obvious imo
[3:35 PM] Celirra: well not obvious but
[3:35 PM] Celirra: it resolves super/e.gadd/pearl as t/w/w
[3:36 PM] Celirra: and frankly
[3:36 PM] Celirra: as long as one of the first 2 is a wolf then it means 1 less to resolve
[3:37 PM] Celirra: [4:33 PM] Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow: If we had cardflips I'd be more willing to vote for you but it's on  fence right now
[3:37 PM] Celirra: can you explain this sometime
[3:47 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I think marina brawler is t/w so confirming one a color turns the other another color
[3:48 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So if we lynch both of them we always hit a wolf in my mind
[3:48 PM] NocturneOfShadow: And tbh I think brawler is softing seer a bit
[4:15 PM] Celirra: I dont think thinking of that is condusive regardless
[4:16 PM] Celirra: in my mind brawler isnt on the table
[4:16 PM] NocturneOfShadow: but if marina flips green he's back on the table
[4:16 PM] Celirra: there are no cardflips
[4:16 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I KNOW
[4:16 PM] Celirra: oh
[4:17 PM] Celirra: I meant more not on the table re: you thinking he's softing
[4:17 PM] Celirra: We'll have to see
[4:17 PM] Celirra: imo marina is the safest lynch for now either way
[4:17 PM] NocturneOfShadow: yeah he's probably just a wolf
[4:18 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I'm overthinking things
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 03, 2018, 09:53:03 PM
if the second member of off the hook is dead, I bet it's raeko
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 03, 2018, 10:11:37 PM
For my part, I can agree with everything E Gadd said. I'll let him post the chat log in case he wants to comment on it or something.

I am not Off the Hook, so I can say that he is not false claiming seer, at least. For my part, I also know that he is the true seer. I was never particularly suspicious of E Gadd, and this lessens what little suspicions I had of him a great deal.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 04, 2018, 04:46:21 AM
I'm not a member of OffTheHook either, so E. Gadd's claim lives on i guess
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 04, 2018, 05:06:10 AM
As far as reads go at the moment. Here's what I've got

Tras is still being slightly silent so that's no help on my opinion of him.

Celery is still giving me skeptical vibes. This is why I hit around the bush in our DM, celery, I didn't want to inform you of my read on E. Gadd almost definitely being a seer

E. Gadd's A-Ok in my book

Noc is Neutral as always. Though that's not new at all.

Brawler also gives me suspicions, mostly because of SuperMarina's wanting to vote for himself, whith celery jumped in on, though that might be just a coincidence. As well as the claim on E. Gadd as the true seer.

Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 04, 2018, 12:06:36 PM
Spoiler
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:42 PM
So who do you think is most suspicious rn?
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:42 PM
right now? tbh I'd say supermarina
I get being bad at the game
that's fair
but imo he says it alot
either that or celery
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:44 PM
I've noticed he has offered that defence multiple times. Davy told me that the amateur excuse can only be used one time ever, otherwise it becomes fishy. And I'm assuming Celery because of the seer plan?
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:44 PM
yeah. I dont see the point in bringing it up at all
obviously having seers claim would be powerful
but right now there's no point
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:45 PM
It may have been valuable at a later point in the game, but since seers can't do anything, they're powerless in a power role
I wouldn't say worthless, though.
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:47 PM
i mean in the short term, there's no point
in day 2, I don't see why they don't claim. we'll be one mislynch from losing at that point
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:47 PM
Whole reason I jumped on Raeko was because I didn't think about the implications of Celery's plan very well, so I was pretty well in support, if it meant gaining seer communication (given we only have 1 mislynch, as per others' calculations)
But that's provided the seers stay alive until Day 2, and even so, we don't know which one's which
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:49 PM
that's true, but there's not many other options for us
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:51 PM
Yeah... we're in a pretty tight spot rn. I just hope BDS wasn't OtH
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:52 PM
there's nothing we can do if he was. it's a vanilla game until day 2 anyway, at least.
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:53 PM
Yuuup. I'm just trying to deduce how it's possible to determine who's Marina & who's Pearl
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:53 PM
same. :/
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:55 PM
So the only definite thing they can BOTH see is each other. Otherwise, Pearl inverts everything
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:55 PM
yeah, if one of them Sees blue, they're the true seer
im pretty sure?
the false one can only see red or green, from my understanding
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:55 PM
I thought they both seer each other blue...? One sec
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:56 PM
yeah you're right
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:56 PM
If Pearl seers Marina, Marina will appear blue
So there's really no true way to distinguish between them unless we had room for trial and error, which we really don't. Say we hit a human this phase and both seers are still alive. There would be no way of knowing which was which until it was too late. At least, that's what I'm seeing
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:58 PM
true, but by context we can maybe figure it out
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 9:59 PM
Could you explain? I'm not sure I follow
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 9:59 PM
like, if both seers are alive and they both See a separate player, we can maybe deduce alignment based off previous interactions
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:00 PM
if mikey saw you as red, and raeko saw celery as red as well, they would deduce that mikey is the true seer and raeko is the false seer
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:00 PM
OH I get it now
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:00 PM
whether or not that would be the actual case, that's the conclusion that they would come to
so it's definitely powerful, but it's limited in its power
(based off the state of the game right now anyway)
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:01 PM
Yeah, and I wouldn't have much of a case then, since mikey seems pretty set against me :/
But which player is solid enough to read and determine from there?
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:02 PM
but again, there's no way that I know of to "confirm" it
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:02 PM
Yeah...
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:02 PM
that's why I believe that the seers should claim on day 2
it's dangerous, but not claiming is far more dangerous
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:04 PM
It's definitely a good plan to have; it seems legit enough that you give me a human read
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:04 PM
same here. i honestly have no idea why mikey is targeting you
like, I read you as neutral, but I'm naturally paranoid
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:05 PM
And you're about the only human read I have X')
I get that
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:05 PM
i.e. nothing we've discussed would help you, as a wolf
I don't think. you know?
yeah, we're cool
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:08 PM
Yeah. Idk, I just don't know how to play anymore X'D when I first started, I hung out at the back and suggested we vote on inactives and the like, not really wanting to jump to any conclusions unless it was basically confirmed. Then I started trying to take a more involved role, trying to read people and the like, and as such, people always found me suspicious regardless of what role I was. :/ so now I'm just kinda hovering in the middle and even here I'm being targeted. Although mikey's being a wolf would make me feel a little better about my playing style
...sorry, I kinda ramble sometimes
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:09 PM
it's all good
but the question becomes now, who do we vote for?
my top three are supermarina, celery, and brainy; in that order
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:11 PM
My top 3, at this particular moment, are Celery, Marina, and it's a split between mikey and brainy. I can see cases built for both.
But that can be given to change based on other circumstances that develop. I'll probz vote tomorrow around noon to allow for as much activity to unfold as possible before I case a vote
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:13 PM
I'm going to post a case against marina in the thread. We need someone to lynch, and his constant remarks do bother me
it's better than nothing, at least. but it is a weak argument
but then what day 1 lynch isn't?
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:14 PM
Oh I agree 100% XD day 1 lynches are like someone breathes the wrong way and everyone jumps them. Unless mikey does his old tricks of stirring the pot unnecessarily
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:16 PM
Right? lol. imo you're doing fine. I don't personally see mikey's remarks right now as wolfy, but I did have my suspcions on him before, so I'm not exactly sure
(when celery first came up with the seer plan, mikey volunteered as the middleman. At the time, that struck me the wrong way. Now, I'm better at recognizing his banter)
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:17 PM
Have you played with mikey before?
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:17 PM
2 years ago xD
I played 2 games in 2016, I know noc was in one of them
I forget about the other
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:19 PM
Well idk how he was back then, but I know for a fact he's quite the wild card now. No one can ever really read him because he does so much crap like that
He's infamous for being the default Day 1 Lynch candidate for that exact reason
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:19 PM
in that game, he got roflstomped as a wolf. it was quite a sight to see. He claimed Fool and lost miserably.
I have nothing against him personally, but it still makes me laugh
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:21 PM
Oh definitely, I don't have anything against him either! He and I discuss writing some, and he's taught me a few TWG things in the past (not his playstyle) it's just in the game he... idk. It's like he becomes erratic and gives everyone a hard time reading him, which hurts everyone
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:22 PM
oh I totally get you. The way he wrote his read, he gave me, raeko, and marina a town read and then claimed we were teir 3 lynches
I know what that means now
but at the time, I was like "what?"
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:23 PM
Oh yeah, that's also a thing now. He's never used terminology like that before, although I'd say Raeko and Celery's presences in the game have some effect on that
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:24 PM
oh, im sure of it. which is fine, since it helps ease them into our terminology as well
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:24 PM
Yeah XDD I'm sure it's hecka unconventional
Brawler4Ever - Last Thursday at 10:25 PM
sweet! well, I'm going to build my case against marina. I want to finish it before going to bed.
good night!
E. Gadd Industries - Last Thursday at 10:26 PM
G'night!
February 3, 2018
E. Gadd Industries - Yesterday at 6:21 PM
Hey, do you mind if I post our chat log as a response to Celirra's thing?
Because otherwise I can't really answer their question about my thinking critically
Brawler4Ever - Yesterday at 11:07 PM
go ahead
[close]
So yeah, this is everything said between me and Brawler on Thursday. I don't really have anything else to add. I would've posted it earlier, but I was in a rush to get to church for sound check (youth praise band was helping lead worship today).
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 04, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Assuming that supermarina is not a wolf, here is a list I have compiled of everybody's wolf pair suspicions:

Me: brainy/mikey

E Gadd: celery/brainy(?) (not fully confirmed)

mikey: celery/tras
brainy/tras

celery: brainy/mikey (per celery's pm to e gadd)
brainy/tras (per celery's pm to e gadd)

brainy: celery/brawler

tras: ??? I haven't spoken to tras

We need to get the ball rolling. The phase is going to end in about 15 hours.
Also, sorry if this is wrong/outdated. We just need to figure out who we're going to lynch fairly soon.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 04, 2018, 09:20:43 PM
BrainyLucario

I am fairly confident about this

I am confident if it is not Brainy then I know who it is without doubt, assuming Marina was wolf.

If Marina is not wolf I think I am still confident that Brainy is wolf and that I know the second wolf, and in fact I doubt it would change much.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 04, 2018, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: Brawler4Ever on February 04, 2018, 09:18:59 PMcelery: brainy/mikey (per celery's pm to e gadd)
brainy/tras (per celery's pm to e gadd)

I don't know how I feel about someone going off someone else's info about my stances instead of asking me personally.

A bit lazy and scummy (not wolfy scum, but scummy scum) there dont you think?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 04, 2018, 09:56:46 PM
my thoughts on brainy: brainy's history in this game is interesting. He made those few mistakes in the beginning. E Gadd stood up for him, and they've been (basically) united ever since. brainy put forth a great deal of effort in trying to convince me to side with E Gadd against mikey. Brainy also correctly deduced that A) E Gadd is a seer, and B) E Gadd thought that I was a seer. Brainy joined me in lynching supermarina, but had second thoughts halfway through. I don't blame him for that; the ordeal with supermarina was uncomfortable to a high degree. Brainy has, since then, grown suspicious of me.

My thoughts on mikey: mikey's early suspicion of E Gadd didn't make much sense to me. Mikey's suspicion of E Gadd stemmed from E Gadd not contributing to the game as much (such as posting suspicions), while still posting regularly. However, mikey dropped it when the supermarina lynch was gaining traction.

Portion of chat log with mikey
Brawler4Ever - Today at 12:00 PM
question for you: why did you switch your vote to supermarina?
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 12:00 PM
That's a good question
I'm 90% sure it was the right move
E gadd was feeling more and more towny to me
This game had a crap ton of nulls
I started off the second half of day one feeling good about you celery and raeko
I really liked your reasoning for marina
And I won't be surprised if you're right in the end
The options were either marina or push brainy pretty much
And that's as far as it goes pretty much
[close]

Both of them as a wolf pair: both of them had interesting interactions with E Gadd in the beginning; brainy supported him, mikey opposed him. My theory goes that with E Gadd trusting brainy to a larger extent, mikey could choose a different target. With the tell that E Gadd (if he was seer) would see me instead of one of them, it wasn't important enough for them to wolf E Gadd on N2. Instead, they aimed for the other seer, who they believed to be raeko. For N1, they chose BDS. From what I've been told, BDS and mikey have played several games together. It would make sense for mikey to target BDS as a result. At this point, with the human supermarina out of the way, they just need one more mislynch. mikey has his focus on tras, and brainy has grown suspicious of me.

I'm comfortable with a lynch on either player, so I'm going to vote for brainy.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 04, 2018, 10:09:26 PM
unvote
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 04, 2018, 10:09:54 PM
careful of insta

intent to vote brainy still there
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 04, 2018, 10:23:03 PM
Pay attention to this post as it's very important and I logged in to NSM on my phone to make it:

The following people are guaranteed town:
Me
Brawler*
E Gadd
BDS
Raeko

*If brawler ends up being a wolf xD


This leaves celery, brainy, tras, and supermarina

Both wolves must be in this group of 4

If marina is a wolf celery is town and we will always win by lynching trasdegi into brainy
If marina is not a wolf, the only likely pairings are tras/celery and tras/brainy.  Aggregating these scenarios, the clear best lynch is Trasdegi.  The only reason anybody could disagree is if I am potentially a wolf.  However, the nonconfirmed town players in that pile can swap me with them and achieve the same results, with the exception of brawler, who has it rougher than the rest of us.

Celery refused to share his logs with brawler, brainy, or tras for some unknown reason.  He's dead set on this brainy lynch which means he smells victory.  If it's a town victory, then he should be fine with taking necessary precautions.  If it's a wolf victory then that explains why he's so confident.

I'm not a wolf.  At this point my only possible partner is brainy I guess?  Also, I just realized that I joke voted for BDS and he died.  I definitely wouldn't do that as a wolf (I think).  Brainy could be a wolf, sure.  Swap around me with celery and the trasdegi lynch is how I win.  But I know I'm not a wolf and uggh I wish I knew how to prove it.  I don't think we're winning at the end of this phase, I really don't. I want to play it safe.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 04, 2018, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: mikey on February 04, 2018, 10:23:03 PMIf marina is a wolf celery is town and we will always win by lynching trasdegi into brainy
If marina is not a wolf, the only likely pairings are tras/celery and tras/brainy.  Aggregating these scenarios, the clear best lynch is Trasdegi.  The only reason anybody could disagree is if I am potentially a wolf.  However, the nonconfirmed town players in that pile can swap me with them and achieve the same results, with the exception of brawler, who has it rougher than the rest of us.
Give some reasoning instead of just saying stuff if you want to be heard.

Quote from: mikey on February 04, 2018, 10:23:03 PMCelery refused to share his logs with brawler, brainy, or tras for some unknown reason.  He's dead set on this brainy lynch which means he smells victory.  If it's a town victory, then he should be fine with taking necessary precautions.  If it's a wolf victory then that explains why he's so confident.
I didn't refuse to share my logs, I told you to share yours first.

Quote from: mikey on February 04, 2018, 10:23:03 PMI'm not a wolf.  At this point my only possible partner is brainy I guess?  Also, I just realized that I joke voted for BDS and he died.  I definitely wouldn't do that as a wolf (I think).  Brainy could be a wolf, sure.  Swap around me with celery and the trasdegi lynch is how I win.  But I know I'm not a wolf and uggh I wish I knew how to prove it.  I don't think we're winning at the end of this phase, I really don't. I want to play it safe.

You're just saying stuff at this point for the sake of trying to seem useful and like a strong town.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 04, 2018, 10:31:22 PM
No, what's happening here is you're ignoring my completely logical reasoning either because you're a wolf or because you're too prideful to play it safe

Quit with this idiotic "gib rezun" crap, I explained why tras lynch needs to happen
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 04, 2018, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: mikey on February 04, 2018, 10:31:22 PMNo, what's happening here is you're ignoring my completely logical reasoning either because you're a wolf or because you're too prideful to play it safe

Quit with this idiotic "gib rezun" crap, I explained why tras lynch needs to happen

You didn't give logical reasoning. You simply said "Hey X is true!" as if X is a well known fact, a universal constant, a proven law of the universe.

Wolves aren't proven laws of the universe, friend.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 05, 2018, 06:44:09 AM
Welp, looks like I'm in the hot seat again. Woo! *cracks knuckles* lets do this...

I'll post all my chat logs though the only two I have are trying to convince people to not vote E. Gadd

Celery's log
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:58 PM
There
Celirra - Last Friday at 1:58 PM
I hope it's not necessary to include host in convos
Mostly because I've already conversed with mikey and Raeko without doing so
But that's irrelevant I guess
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:59 PM
Tell mikey to log it for Olimar, so he can have a more complete idea of what went on in the game. anyways..
Pearl - Last Friday at 2:00 PM
I spoke to Brawler about E. Gadd and You and he helped lower my suspicions of you a lot
He told me about you realizing the flaw in your plan or something and that you dropped it, which was the big reason i was suspicious of you, and possibly why Marina is too
Celirra - Last Friday at 2:04 PM
I wasn't aware Marina was particularly suspicious of me
Maybe I missed it
@Olimar12345 if you want info on what went down in convo with me and Mikey lemme know sometime, same for between me and Raeko
Anyways tell me more about why you were particularly suspicious
I think there's more you can say about the matter, expand on your general thought process
It'll help me resolve your alignment
Pearl - Last Friday at 2:10 PM
Your probable vote on E. Gadd being completely based on the fact that everyone else seems Null to you and the whole seer thing
as for my thought process, which part? My attitude that E. Gadd doesn't seem wolfy or you not being wolfy?
Celirra - Last Friday at 2:17 PM
I'd say that is fair, I typically don't like a process of elimination vote but it's what I'm left with at this point
I think specifically about E Gadd not being wolfy though
Because I don't have the same meta read capabilities on him as you do
Pearl - Last Friday at 2:20 PM
You have to think, I know him in real life so I know exactly what his wolf signs are as well a his special role signs, though those are never as clear. He's been pretty aggressive the last couple games and that resulted in him being mislynched. So him being laid back from this game is clearly a sign that he doesn't want to be mislynched again or that he has an important role, which is why i'm inclined to wait out a lynch on him until at least day 2
Celirra - Last Friday at 2:22 PM
So what would be some of his wolf signs then?
Is it the aggressive style particularly that's wolfy?
I assume there's more to it than just that
You could argue a wolf wouldn't want to be "mislynched" either
Pearl - Last Friday at 2:24 PM
yeah, that's something that Brawler pointed out.
His signs are hard to explain, as they mostly involve his real life attitude towards what little we talk about the game as well as how active he is in seeking others out.
The aggressive style wasn't the thing that was wolfy, the other players were just used to E. Gadd being laid back and careful as opposed to aggressive. That's probably why their was such a suspicion on him
Also this game right here
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9588.165
Celirra - Last Friday at 2:38 PM
So you haven't really said what his actual wolf signs are, as you would claim to know. Is him seeking others out wolfy or towny?
Pearl - Last Friday at 2:38 PM
towny
And he's seeked Brawler out, even discussing seer outcomes
Celirra - Last Friday at 2:41 PM
So he's seeked out one person and discussed with them?
Pearl - Last Friday at 2:42 PM
as far as I know yeah. He might have talked to more but I can confirm one pm
Celirra - Last Friday at 2:42 PM
I wouldn't consider that seeking lots of people out though
So I'd say thats wolf leaning with your logic on what makes him towny
or wolfy
but frankly either way
I'm leaning to vote Marina right now anyways with recent developments
Pearl - Last Friday at 2:43 PM
yeah, we can talk about this later. I gotto go anyways
*gotta
Olimar12345 - Last Friday at 4:32 PM
what in the devil
February 3, 2018
Pearl - Last Saturday at 11:39 AM
HOSTS ARENT SUPPOSED TO JOIN IN ON THE CONVERSATION
[close]

Brawler PM

Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:08 PM
whoooaaa
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:08 PM
okay, so has E. Gadd private messaged you at all?
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:08 PM
I didn't know we can add other people to private chat
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:08 PM
mhm mhm
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:08 PM
yeah
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:09 PM
I figured given something he said irl
I have solid evidence that may tie him to town or OTH.
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:09 PM
ok
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:11 PM
the problem is that I can't be certain of this unless he stays alive and Celery might make that a problem
not to mention his probable vote on E. Gadd being completely based on the fact that everyone else seems Null to him
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:13 PM
ok. for my part, E Gadd is neutral, just like I said
when we talked, we discussed our suspicions at the time and possible scenerios regarding the seers
(if 1 is alive, if both are alive)
that was last night
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:15 PM
This makes me think E. Gadd may be a seer. or may think you're a seer
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:17 PM
possibly. It was in response to discussing Celery's plan
I definitely agree with E Gadd there; the plan was weird
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:18 PM
Which brings up another suspicion of mine, Celery being a possible wolf, though it's too early to confirm
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:19 PM
I talked to Celery via pm. He elaborated that the "middleman" woud have been done by public vote
he conceded that it would not work, and dropped it
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:20 PM
Hmm....
That kind of lessens my suspicion on him.
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:20 PM
tbh, same here
my top 3 right now are SM, mikey, and you
but you and mikey trail behind SM by a long shot
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:22 PM
Yeah, I'd be worried a little if I wasn't in it given my mistake. Could you explain the Supermarina vote a little clearer?
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:23 PM
sure
basically everything that hey blame E Gadd for, SuperMarina has also done
i.e. not contributed, but still post things
that, plus he repeatedly posts about how bad he is at the game and what he doesn't understand
to be fair...
Celery and raeko are introducing a great deal of new jargon, so I can't completely blame him for that
that's basically my case. It's not much. But imo it's better than mikey/E Gadd.
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:26 PM
hold up let me read back through Marina's posts in the mafia server before i do anything else
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:26 PM
ok
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:28 PM
ok yeah....you have a good point
His read list also raises some suspicion too
putting Raeko and Celery  at the top for no explained reason
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:29 PM
see?? lol
that's why I don't bother with this drama between them
guilt by association is a real thing
so what evidence do you have for E Gadd?
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:38 PM
It's mostly not evidence, just how he's playing. You have to think, I know him in real life so I know exactly what his wolf signs are as well a his special role signs, though those are never as clear. He's been pretty aggressive the last couple games and that resulted in him being mislynched. So him being laid back from this game is clearly a sign that he doesn't want to be mislynched again
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:38 PM
yeah, that's what he told me as well
as well as in the chat itself
however, that's not enough of a defense, imo.
Pearl - Last Friday at 1:42 PM
True, I'll admit that it's not enough, but if we keep E. Gadd alive today we can probably pinpoint whether he's town or  not. Which is why i'm probably going to side with you on your SuperMarina thing
Brawler4Ever - Last Friday at 1:43 PM
I appreciate that. I agree. With seers, we can get a much better idea of which side to take on Day 2.
best case scenerio, anyway
Olimar12345 - Last Friday at 4:33 PM
"what in the devil"
February 3, 2018
Olimar12345 - Last Saturday at 8:37 AM
Ignore me I'm just lurking
Olimar12345 left the group.Last Saturday at 11:46 AM
February 4, 2018
Brawler4Ever - Yesterday at 1:36 PM
just saw your post in the thread. Why did me going after supermarina make you suspicious? You were on board as well.
and as for e gadd's claim, that was more a remark of me trusting him than anything. I didn't mean for that to be an attempt of "proof" of my humanship.
Brawler4Ever - Yesterday at 3:12 PM
{SNIPPED FOR GOOD REASONS BUT IT BASICALLY HAD TO DO WITH SUPERMARINA's SELF VOTE THING)
Pearl - Today at 8:23 AM
I didn't think it was too big of a deal, I just had flashbacks to other times where I was a human  in a TWG and I felt attacked so much that I just gave up fighting a lynch and voted for myself. This is what makes me inconclusive on the whole SuperMarina thing, so I wouldn't say it shook me up.
Brawler4Ever - Today at 8:24 AM
ok, I wasn't sure. you seemed pretty stressed when you posted in the chat. That was the vibe I was getting, anwyway
Pearl - Today at 8:25 AM
Well I was mostly stressed because it affected my certainty on the SuperMarina vote
Brawler4Ever - Today at 8:26 AM
I don't see supermarina's self-lynch thing as being wolfy or human
hence me asking him to "fight back" or whatever
I just saw a frustrated player
Pearl - Today at 8:28 AM
I could see that, Posting our pm in the thread
i may snip the real talk thing from it though since it's a little more personal
Brawler4Ever - Today at 8:29 AM
that's fine
[close]

The pm between me and celery isn't very helpful imo though, it's just me trying to get celery to not vote E. Gadd, which Supermarina helped with that. I really had to beat around the bush with my reasonings though in case celery was a wolf.

Now concerning my lynch for tonight, I of course am against it, and I think you all have very little reasoning for it other than it feels right or i'm in the pool of 4. I clearly thought that E. Gadd was OTH but i still tried to not push an E. Gadd lynch even though Noc wanted it. Wouldn't it have been smarter to not tell anyone about it and just lynch him night 2 or even push a vote for him? Secondly, I strongly remind everyone to not bandwagon, and I can appreciate celery's unvote to avoid a mislynch. Lastly, I'm leaning towards a Celery vote despite the fact that he tried to avoid a bandwagon though my opinions are still up in the air
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 05, 2018, 06:48:56 AM
Actually.....Brawler's post highlighted some things i've missed about nocturne. I might vote for him instead
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 05, 2018, 07:15:16 AM
Brawler4Ever - Yesterday at 3:12 PM
{SNIPPED FOR GOOD REASONS BUT IT BASICALLY HAD TO DO WITH SUPERMARINA's SELF VOTE THING)

^in above chat with me and brainy. Just wanted to confirm that nothing in this snip was useful to the thread and had to do with supermarina's response from an irl perspective.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 05, 2018, 08:28:21 AM
Hot take: raeko was off the hook and told celery this (the only person she would tell)
Celery is a wolf
Lynch tras
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 05, 2018, 08:47:07 AM
Hot take: Stop it with the hot takes
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 05, 2018, 08:56:50 AM
Quote from: mikey on February 05, 2018, 08:28:21 AMHot take: raeko was off the hook and told celery this (the only person she would tell)
Celery is a wolf
Lynch tras

What? you said yourself in chat that raeko was probably a seer. Why would she claim in the first place? Nobody was suspicious of her. What would she gain by claiming before Day 2?

Also, your whole deal with tras is weird. You have logic and reasoning to determine that celery is a wolf, yet you persist in going after tras, who's been pretty much null the whole game.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 05, 2018, 09:25:25 AM
Hot take: Mikey is deflecting instead of responding to pressure.

Mikey

if I'm wolf like you say, lynch me buddo
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 05, 2018, 09:31:45 AM
If you're a wolf tras is your partner though
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 05, 2018, 09:32:02 AM
How can you guys not understand this simple thing
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 05, 2018, 10:11:06 AM
developments in discord make me very confident wolves are between brainy and mikey
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 05, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
Quote from: Celirra on February 05, 2018, 10:11:06 AMdevelopments in discord make me very confident wolves are between brainy and mikey
Developements in discord make me very convinced you're a wolf based on the fact that you wont share a simple log with a confirmed town that has little chance of incriminating you
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 05, 2018, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on February 05, 2018, 10:12:19 AMDevelopements in discord make me very convinced you're a wolf based on the fact that you wont share a simple log with a confirmed town that has little chance of incriminating you

If you can explain how solely not sharing a log with a confirmed town makes me a wolf then I will eat my socks and vote for myself.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 05, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
Chat log with Celirra
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[close]
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: davy on February 05, 2018, 10:32:24 AM
TWC Post

Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 05, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
Chat log with Celirra
(http://i65.tinypic.com/1zvbdr8.png)(http://i66.tinypic.com/ncny2v.png)(http://i66.tinypic.com/1hfm0k.png)(http://i63.tinypic.com/29nh5c2.png)(http://i68.tinypic.com/2n6b01x.png)(http://i68.tinypic.com/wa54s7.png)
[close]

According to the current official rules, screenshotting is not allowed. Since I haven't really been enforcing this rule lately, this will just be a warning.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 05, 2018, 10:33:39 AM
Do I delete or?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 05, 2018, 10:34:44 AM
Celirra for continuously refusing to post chat logs and trying a diversionary tactic (with the seering plan pointing away from themselves)
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: davy on February 05, 2018, 10:36:44 AM
TWC Post

Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 05, 2018, 10:33:39 AMDo I delete or?

I'll have to leave that up for Olimar to decide.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 05, 2018, 10:41:25 AM
Brainy
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 05, 2018, 10:42:48 AM
Celirra for multiple reasons. Some of which E. Gadd mentioned. As well as his aggressive attitude all of a sudden to anything that doesn't have a detailed and well thought out response explaining exactly what the benefit of it will be

chat log
Brainy - Good to know your stance on me, now share the log
Celery - Today at 12:03 PM
no
why should I
explain to me what you hope to get out of a log with me and e.gadd
and then I will
Brainy - Today at 12:04 PM
because It'd help convince me not to vote for you
Celery - Today at 12:04 PM
you're just deflecting pressure with that request
and how would it help convince you?
you're still just saying things
Brainy - Today at 12:04 PM
@E. Gadd Industries  post the log
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:04 PM
What does it hurt to show a log
I've already shared everything of mine
Celery - Today at 12:05 PM
what does it hurt to explain things for once
Brainy - Today at 12:05 PM
Same here
Celery - Today at 12:05 PM
[1:00 PM] Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow: Half hearted log
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:05 PM
It's missing something
Celery - Today at 12:05 PM
I just think this whole situation is funny
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:05 PM
That's all I'm saying
Celery - Today at 12:05 PM
I think your log with him is missing stuff too
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:05 PM
The later part that was just added feels better
Celery - Today at 12:05 PM
like
a log
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:05 PM
But before that
Brainy - Today at 12:06 PM
For the love of god just share the log with E. Gadd
Celery - Today at 12:06 PM
no
explain in detail
what it will do
more thna just
[1:04 PM] Brainy: because It'd help convince me not to vote for you
Brainy - Today at 12:06 PM
E. Gadd mentioned something important in it
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:06 PM
It will let us see your conversation with e gadd
Celery - Today at 12:06 PM
because I don't care about that unless you say why and how
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:06 PM
I'm into that
E gadd is a confirmed town
Celery - Today at 12:06 PM
and I dont want to share info with a wolf
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:06 PM
Which means anything he says is useful
Brainy - Today at 12:06 PM
He's content on voting for you Celery
Celery - Today at 12:06 PM
why would I want to share info in a way that a wolf can guaranteed see it here
thats fine
he's content losing too then I'm sure
oh wait
I'm doing what mikey is doing now
lol!
Brainy - Today at 12:07 PM
Just post the log, pal. prove your not hiding anything
Celery - Today at 12:07 PM
no
what would I be hiding in a conversation with a guaranteed town?
the fuck
Brainy - Today at 12:08 PM
So what would you have to lose by sharing the log?
Celery - Today at 12:08 PM
yeah I'm secretly a wolf and in a log to a confirmed town I said "yo bud I'm a wolf"
what do you have to gain?
Brainy - Today at 12:08 PM
Everything
Celery - Today at 12:08 PM
you're not in a position to demand unless you explain why you want it properly
if you give me a good well thought out reason
that warrants it
then it's all yours
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:08 PM
All these games
Celery - Today at 12:08 PM
"so you dont hide anything" is not a reason
Emcee FlashMikeyFlash of Shadow - Today at 12:09 PM
We're not even playing twg anymore
[close]
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 05, 2018, 10:42:59 AM
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 05, 2018, 10:34:44 AMCelirra for continuously refusing to post chat logs and trying a diversionary tactic (with the seering plan pointing away from themselves)

Yes hello

1) again, how are the chat logs relevant to anything
2) how is me with my "diversionary tactic" incriminating, while both Mikey and Brainy deflected from my own pressure on them, which is what even prompted the log request between you and I from Brainy?
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 05, 2018, 10:49:51 AM
There are currently 2 votes on me, Brainy and E. Gadd.

Insta-lynch is at 4 votes.

If the wolves wanted, they could pile on and kill me instantly right now, and end the game, if there are two wolves alive and if neither wolves are currently on my wagon.

This proves that either:

a) Only one wolf is left, and thus Marina is confirmed a wolf
b) One of Brainy and E. Gadd is a wolf (or both, in theory)

Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 05, 2018, 10:51:26 AM
We had no pressure on us in the conversation. You were putting pressure on mikey and I stepped in to defend him. I don't care if everyone sees us as a wolf pair. I knew something was off so I  tried to make sure you wouldn't get away with it
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Trasdegi on February 05, 2018, 10:56:05 AM
I agree with everything said in the discord:Celirra
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Brawler4Ever on February 05, 2018, 10:56:16 AM
celirra
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 05, 2018, 02:32:19 PM
TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game

1. octoling
2. octoling
3. inkling
4. inkling
5. inkling
6. inkling
7. inkling
8. Pearl
9. Marina

Two octolings have disguised themselves as inklings and are hidden among them. If left un-splatted, they'll surely plot to steal the Great Zapfish: the source of all power in Inkopolis.

This game starts on a night phase (normal). During the night phases octolings agree on a single inkling in which to splat (kill). During day phases everyone votes on a player to splat.

This game has two special roles: the two trendy idols from Off the Hook: Pearl and Marina. Both are seers. Pearl, the false-prophet, seers players the opposite color for which they are. However, if Pearl happens to seer Marina, they will appear blue. Marina is the true savior, so she seers players their correct color. Players with these roles are not told which idol they are, and are simply told that they are a member of off the hook. They do not know each other. Their abilities will begin night 2.

The inklings and OtH idols win when both octolings are spatted. The octolings win when the number of living inklings (OtH included) are equal or less than them. There are no cardflips upon death.

The postgame for this game will get a phase-by-phase photoshopped comic to tell the tale of what happened.

Players:

Role PMs
You are an octoling. Your partner is _____.

You are an inkling. Woomy!

You are a member of Off the Hook! Don't get cooked!
[close]

Discord chatroom link: https://discord.gg/rhMuaez

Day 2 has ended. Celirra has been splat-insta'd. It is now Night 3. Night 3 ends 24 hours from now.
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: BrainyLucario on February 06, 2018, 11:51:46 AM
Rip everyone
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: mikey on February 06, 2018, 12:44:53 PM
this game in a nutshell
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/960977191285567488
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Celirra on February 06, 2018, 01:51:29 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402826323372015616/407777475972694016/ghost-clipart-ghost-halloween-medo-scary-pro-clip-arts.png
Title: Re: TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 06, 2018, 03:15:07 PM
TWG XCIX: That Woomy Game

1. octoling
2. octoling
3. inkling
4. inkling
5. inkling
6. inkling
7. inkling
8. Pearl
9. Marina

Two octolings have disguised themselves as inklings and are hidden among them. If left un-splatted, they'll surely plot to steal the Great Zapfish: the source of all power in Inkopolis.

This game starts on a night phase (normal). During the night phases octolings agree on a single inkling in which to splat (kill). During day phases everyone votes on a player to splat.

This game has two special roles: the two trendy idols from Off the Hook: Pearl and Marina. Both are seers. Pearl, the false-prophet, seers players the opposite color for which they are. However, if Pearl happens to seer Marina, they will appear blue. Marina is the true savior, so she seers players their correct color. Players with these roles are not told which idol they are, and are simply told that they are a member of off the hook. They do not know each other. Their abilities will begin night 2.

The inklings and OtH idols win when both octolings are spatted. The octolings win when the number of living inklings (OtH included) are equal or less than them. There are no cardflips upon death.

The postgame for this game will get a phase-by-phase photoshopped comic to tell the tale of what happened.

Players:

Role PMs
You are an octoling. Your partner is _____.

You are an inkling. Woomy!

You are a member of Off the Hook! Don't get cooked!
[close]

Discord chatroom link: https://discord.gg/rhMuaez

Night 3 has ended. mikey has been splat-wolf'd. The Octolings (Wolves) Win!

GG everyone. Please give me 24 hours to create the postgame topic. I'd like to post the complete comic all at once rather than wait for it to come in pieces, plus I'm almost done.