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Title: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Zeta on February 12, 2018, 06:00:02 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: Doki Doki Literature Club!
Console: PC
Title: Dreams of Love and Literature
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Nacho2420 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37)

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Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 12, 2018, 06:01:03 PM
Gotta follow the trend

Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Maelstrom on February 12, 2018, 06:09:02 PM
Pretty sure those LH chords are more than one note.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 12, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on February 12, 2018, 06:09:02 PMPretty sure those LH chords are more than one note.

It does sound bare, but I didn't add any other notes to avoid muddiness, otherwise I'd und up with voicings that are impossible to play with just left hand. I also tried adding chords in underneath the melody in the right hand but it didn't add enough sonically to make a difference. Any ideas?
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Latios212 on February 12, 2018, 06:25:31 PM
I will be back with ideas (hopefully) soon. Looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 12, 2018, 07:03:11 PM
Thoughts on transforming this to a duet arrangement?
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Latios212 on February 12, 2018, 07:58:44 PM
I wouldn't advise dropping the solo. At its heart the song is really catchy and simple; it would make for a great piece for a beginner to learn, or for anyone with at least a little experience to sight-read.

If you do decide to go the duet route, there isn't really much for one hand to do aside from tap percussion, which should make for a fine performance...

But anyways, for a solo, I think it would be best to find some middle ground between the low bass and the chords. The song repeats C, F, and G chords to eternity so I would just select inversions of those you like and place them somewhere in the high bass clef range to prevent it from sounding too bottom-heavy or empty.

Something like this, perhaps:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401094846107877377/412818959625224202/unknown.png

It doesn't keep the bassline intact, but it does lead to a more natural progression of chords (which I feel is the focus of the accompaniment anyway) - jumping to an F chord with A on the bottom would be a bit of a leap coming from the previous one. Play with it and see what you like.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Sebastian on February 12, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
Just popping in quick to say that I'm in favor of keeping it a solo. It's a fun song.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Maelstrom on February 12, 2018, 09:48:25 PM
Agreed for the solo. Imo it's better to stretch it for a solo than go for a duet. Yeah, you might get more notes in, but it's much harder for the performer to find someone else to play it with.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 22, 2018, 03:24:23 PM
Thanks everyone. Definitely keeping it as a solo.

Latios, I went with your voice leading idea which sounds fine and doesn't distort the progression even though the bass notes are different. Much more seamless than I expected. Thanks for that.

On page two I did larger voicings (which do reach up to 10ths but my hands can play them without rolling, plus they're all white keys which makes it more doable)

Sounds way fuller now!
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Latios212 on February 23, 2018, 03:08:36 PM
You're welcome, glad you like!

Great job with the accompaniment at the dynamic change, having the left hand give more of an oomph as is needed. Intervals are wide but the left hand plays slowly, so looks good to me.

Just a couple more thoughts and that's it from me:
- You could try raising the melody of 20-22/24-27 an octave to differentiate the more "airy" sound of that section from the rest. Just a possibility, up to you.
- There's no "fine" marked in the sheet (or end to the song), so just use a D.S. at the end.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 24, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on February 23, 2018, 03:08:36 PMYou're welcome, glad you like!

Great job with the accompaniment at the dynamic change, having the left hand give more of an oomph as is needed. Intervals are wide but the left hand plays slowly, so looks good to me.

Just a couple more thoughts and that's it from me:
- You could try raising the melody of 20-22/24-27 an octave to differentiate the more "airy" sound of that section from the rest. Just a possibility, up to you.
- There's no "fine" marked in the sheet (or end to the song), so just use a D.S. at the end.

Done and done, I like octaves up way better too thanks!
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 24, 2018, 07:30:13 PM
The lh at the top is an amalgam of two different bass-sounding voices; there's a cello sound and an electric bass sound, and you currently have a piece of both parts when you could easily include both voices by adding the upper octave to the C (beat one, from the cello) and the F below the staff underneath the A (beat three, from the bass) in both measures 1 and 3. Measures 2 and 4 are in unison, so they're fine as-is.

My other comment was that I don't see the reason to change the LH from perfectly reachable triads to 10ths on the second page when the original does not change. It seems to unnecessarily make it more difficult to play in what would otherwise be an incredibly simple piece.

I would recommend something like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9uiftb8jbwh8e6/Dreams%20of%20Love%20and%20Literature12345.mus?dl=1
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 25, 2018, 12:37:44 AM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on February 24, 2018, 07:30:13 PMThe lh at the top is an amalgam of two different bass-sounding voices; there's a cello sound and an electric bass sound, and you currently have a piece of both parts when you could easily include both voices by adding the upper octave to the C (beat one, from the cello) and the F below the staff underneath the A (beat three, from the bass) in both measures 1 and 3. Measures 2 and 4 are in unison, so they're fine as-is.

My other comment was that I don't see the reason to change the LH from perfectly reachable triads to 10ths on the second page when the original does not change. It seems to unnecessarily make it more difficult to play in what would otherwise be an incredibly simple piece.

I would recommend something like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9uiftb8jbwh8e6/Dreams%20of%20Love%20and%20Literature12345.mus?dl=1

Interesting, I knew there were two voices doing the bass line but didn't notice they split on the F chord; the A in the cello voice made me undermine the F in the E bass. I went with your edit there, thanks!

As for the 10ths, I voiced it that way to create a fullness the second time the phrase comes in like the original did with the addition of the kick drum and such. I'd like to keep that but if the consensus is that it's not necessary, I can change it.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Sebastian on February 25, 2018, 05:19:47 AM
I don't think putting 10ths is unnecessary or makes the piece "unnecessarily difficult." I think they add more variety since the original itself doesn't change too much. Besides, 10ths are cool sounding.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Altissimo on February 25, 2018, 05:37:37 AM
I can't play 10ths :(
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2018, 06:41:02 AM
It just seems so out of place to me. Despite what Seb thinks, it does make it more difficult to play because some people cannot reach the interval of a tenth, and for those that can, it isn't planing. The middle voice occasionally changes from a fifth above the lowest voice to a sixth. Like I said, it's such simple arrangement otherwise and this part stands out, making it inconsistent with that. It's up to you, but that's my recommendation.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Sebastian on February 25, 2018, 07:29:05 AM
I've seen published music with performance notes that say something along the lines of, "For those with smaller hands: Roll large intervals."

You could do something along those lines if you wish, Nacho.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2018, 07:36:39 AM
If anything, I would include the wider voicing as an optional part. I think it goes without saying that rolling a chord would be what to do if you couldn't reach a large interval. But this is all beside the point I was making.

But like I said, it's up to you.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 25, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
I added a performance note indicating they can use the left hand voicings from the previous page, that way the 10ths can still stay as an option. That should work.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Latios212 on February 25, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
Looks good to me! (Though I would give the performance note a bit more vertical space.)

(As for my opinion, I'm not normally a fan of large intervals, but I do like them here since the left hand moves slowly. They add a bit more power to the return of the main section to differentiate it from the first iteration, just as the original makes it sound fuller with the updated percussion part. And the performance note keeps the sheet accessible for those with small hands, or those who are new to piano.)
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2018, 05:32:17 PM
While you're adjusting the spacing, I think it would make more sense to put "measures 5-8" since that's when the four bar pattern repeats.
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: nacho2420 on February 25, 2018, 06:01:51 PM
Fixed!
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Latios212 on February 25, 2018, 06:21:45 PM
Wheeeeeeeee
Title: Re: [PC] Doki Doki Literature Club! - "Dreams of Love and Literature" by Nacho2420
Post by: Zeta on February 25, 2018, 06:21:51 PM
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).

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