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Title: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Zeta on February 14, 2018, 12:21:49 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Pokémon
Game: Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: Caves
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Trasdegi (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5177)

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Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on February 14, 2018, 12:22:14 PM
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: joeberryosponge on February 14, 2018, 05:31:07 PM
Have you thought of incorporating the string line into the arrangement? I think it would add some nice harmonies especially in the second half of the song.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on February 15, 2018, 01:34:58 AM
Yes, but i wanted to keep it simple, so i left it out.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: AmpharosAndy on February 15, 2018, 04:03:05 AM
I agree with you as the other part would make it quite a bit harder. Maybe it could be written in as an optional line for the courageous (I swear people have done that here before)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: InsigTurtle on February 16, 2018, 03:24:04 AM
*cough cough* definitely not me *cough cough*

I'll need to listen to this again when I'm not sleep-deprived, but I'm currently hearing Gb-C for m.20 beat 4 and A-C for m.22 beat 2. Will check again later when I have time.

The strings are indeed quite loud though, sometimes almost overpowering the melody, so you should maybe tinker around to see if you can fit them in. If not, that's alright.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on February 18, 2018, 03:24:11 AM
Quote from: InsigTurtle on February 16, 2018, 03:24:04 AMI'll need to listen to this again when I'm not sleep-deprived, but I'm currently hearing Gb-C for m.20 beat 4 and A-C for m.22 beat 2. Will check again later when I have time.

This Gb and this A both come from the string line, I hear the marimba playing A-C and B-C.

Here's a version in wich I tried to add the strings, let me know what you think of it:[MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ads083gv7eyi3ut/caves_strings.mus?dl=0) (I had to keep the small notes big, because if I don't they don't play in Notepad, and it (of course) messed up all the formatting, so if we decide to put the strings in, I'll need someone to fix it.)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on March 17, 2018, 05:59:52 PM
Bump
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Latios212 on March 22, 2018, 06:05:29 PM
This is great (the original submission)! For me, simplicity really wins out here.

That's... pretty much all I have to say here.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: AmpharosAndy on March 23, 2018, 04:08:33 AM
It's not made more difficult or complicated by adding the string parts so I vote putting them in, assuming they're correct.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Latios212 on March 23, 2018, 03:34:12 PM
I disagree somewhat - looking at the file Trasdegi posted,
- The voice comes in and drops out seemingly arbitrarily,
- You have some awkward intervals like tenths and a couple of minor seconds, and
- Parallel sixths and thirds are much harder to play legato (or just in general, even if using pedal) than just a single melody line.

It's fine in some places, but I'm unsure if the sheet really has enough to gain by adding that voice in to outweigh the above points. Up to Trasdegi, though.

Quote from: Trasdegi on February 15, 2018, 01:34:58 AMYes, but i wanted to keep it simple, so i left it out.
Is this still what you want?
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Maelstrom on March 23, 2018, 03:44:04 PM
I hear a few of those 4th beat 3rds in the LH as different from the 2nd beat ones.
M1 - I hear a d+f
m6 - c+eb
m20 - Gb+C

Otherwise, it looks great and I approve. Fix this and we're good to go.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: AmpharosAndy on March 23, 2018, 04:37:00 PM
you've talked me 'round m8

keep it simples yeh ignore me ;)
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Latios212 on March 23, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
No, it's always good to consider out options! Haha
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on March 24, 2018, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on March 23, 2018, 03:34:12 PMIs this still what you want?

Yes, it is. I'll leave the strings out.

Quote from: Maelstrom on March 23, 2018, 03:44:04 PMI hear a few of those 4th beat 3rds in the LH as different from the 2nd beat ones.
M1 - I hear a d+f
m6 - c+eb
m20 - Gb+C

I disagree:I heard them the same, so I checked with a spectrogram:
Here's m1:(https://i.imgur.com/rBwvf5w.png), you can see the two diads are the same.
Same for m6: (https://i.imgur.com/4buqJkL.png)
And for m20: (https://i.imgur.com/8kl5JRl.png)

What you're hearing is (I think) coming from the melody, which plays a f, an eb and a gb at those beats
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: AmpharosAndy on March 24, 2018, 02:57:10 PM
Is that a spectrogram first for nsm?
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Maelstrom on March 24, 2018, 03:33:32 PM
I think your ears should be trusted more than a spectrogram/
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Trasdegi on March 24, 2018, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: AmpharosAndy on March 24, 2018, 02:57:10 PMIs that a spectrogram first for nsm?

Nope, it was done for a splatoon sheet before I think.

Quote from: Maelstrom on March 24, 2018, 03:33:32 PMI think your ears should be trusted more than a spectrogram/

That's why I said:
Quote from: Trasdegi on March 24, 2018, 02:19:23 PMI heard them the same

Them being the beat 2 and beat 4 Diads.

Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Maelstrom on March 24, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
Then go with your ears.
Title: Re: [NDS] Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia - "Caves" by Trasdegi
Post by: Zeta on March 25, 2018, 08:12:19 AM
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot