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Title: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 11, 2018, 03:34:04 PM
TWG 101: Hydradoodle
A Hydra game

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Seer
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human

Seer gets a random green check when the game starts

For those of you unaware with hydra games, it's played with mystery accounts and two players share a single account.  Either player can post or do anything without the permission of the other players, but it gives you a second head to talk to.  You can do things like put an experienced player with a less experienced player or just completely randomize it.  This setup is prone to good RNG, like if the seer hits the wolf N1 or the wolf hits the seer N1, but it ought to be a quick fun game.  After how long 100 lasted I think a shorter one would be fun.

Players:

1. TWG Luigi
2. TWG Ness
3. TWG Link
4. TWG Pikachu
5. TWG Samus
6. TWG Waluigi
7. TWG Haruhi Suzumiya

It is now Day 1. Day 1 Ends in roughly 48 hours
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 11, 2018, 04:00:52 PM
LET THE GAMES BEGIN
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
:wah:
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 11, 2018, 04:02:16 PM
This should be fun.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 04:06:36 PM
That's mama Luigi to you M-m-m-MARIO!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Link on March 11, 2018, 04:29:14 PM
Hiyah! Haaa!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 11, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
PK Thunder! Huaaaaaagh!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 04:06:36 PMThat's mama Luigi to you M-m-m-MARIO!

hi how are u
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 11, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
pika pika
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 11, 2018, 07:05:13 PM
I unfortunately do not have a catchphrase.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 07:05:45 PM
Do we want to maybe try and create a rule where the two people using each account must sort of introduce themselves as person 1/2 with each post? That way we can differentiate if multiple of their posts are from the same person or different people? e.g starting off each post with "[Player 1]..." or "[Player 2]...".

This would allow us to have clearer reads on people's characteristics and behaviours and if wolves did decide to mess with us by just randomly starting as Player 1/2 each post, then that would only help us as, as the game goes on, we will probably notice patterns from each individual person, and if it's clear that an account has a specific kind of writing style but they are being introduced as different player numbers each post, we could call them out on not following and thus being a wolf.

Alternatively we could all come clean about who we are and start it off with our names lol, but I'm not sure if there's rules against that or if people would be up for ruining the fun.

Something to discuss I guess
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 07:07:10 PM
LET CHAOS REIGNNNNNNNN
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 11, 2018, 07:19:26 PM
I'm afraid I don't understand your reasoning. I don't see how individual writing styles prevent a single account from still being a wolf. An account is an account, you can't say it's only a half two people both contributing posts won't change the wolfiness of those posts.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 07:22:45 PM
WAH Luigi WAH seems WAH human WAH to WAH me WAH because WAH of WAH the WAH plan WAH he WAH suggestedWAH

-WAH ready WAH player WAH one (WAH or WAH two?  mWAHahaha)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 07:22:45 PMWAH Luigi WAH seems WAH human WAH to WAH me WAH because WAH of WAH the WAH plan WAH he WAH suggestedWAH

-WAH ready WAH player WAH one (WAH or WAH two?  mWAHahaha)
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 07:22:45 PMWAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH

WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH
u better cut that out real soon little man
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 07:25:47 PMu better cut that out real soon little man
WAH or WAH what?
WAH will WAH you WAH suck WAH me WAH up WAH with WAH your WAH vacuum?
Wahaha, Waluigi!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 11, 2018, 07:19:26 PMI'm afraid I don't understand your reasoning. I don't see how individual writing styles prevent a single account from still being a wolf. An account is an account, you can't say it's only a half two people both contributing posts won't change the wolfiness of those posts.

i mean, some people are better wolves than others. Some are better at hiding it, so it would be interesting to see a specific person behind the account start to crumble. If we can't differentiate between who is making the posts then our reads will be a bit blurred. Knowing the difference will allow us to have reads on two different people, who have the same role. As a whole it just gives us more information which will benefit our reads, which I can't really see any negatives with.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 11, 2018, 07:57:43 PM
Mmm...I'll allow this if you all agree to it. Just dont ever reveal your site name
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on March 11, 2018, 07:57:43 PMMmm...I'll allow this if you all agree to it. Just dont ever reveal your site name

big boss approves
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
I'm the sane one.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 11, 2018, 08:10:20 PM
I guess if anyone else has anything to say about the plan they can, whether or not they agree with it and if they have any good pointers on it or bad pointers.

Or if you feel like its a rlly super amazing fabulous plan figure out with your partner what name ur gonna have to make your self identifiable and start of your posts with

"[name]
..."

making up extra random names will probably help our brain with reads rather than there being like 7 people called Player 1, and 7 called Player 2. haha
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 11, 2018, 08:49:06 PM
You mean something like Luigi 1/2 or Pikachu 1/2?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 08:52:11 PM
I haven't given it much through yet, but imo we shouldn't brand our individual selves publicly. Doing this runs the risk of giving the wolves more information for a better wolf target (such as seeking out more experienced combos, etc.), especially for their night 1 kill.

Also, having two wolves in a 7 player, day-start game means that we have two mislynches.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 08:56:02 PM
WAH I WAH mean WAH that WAH our WAH second WAH mislynch WAH is WAH game WAH over WAH, so WAH every WAH lynch WAH counts! WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 11, 2018, 09:17:48 PM
Don't forget to send PM's to me. your host
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Link on March 11, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
Can we send PM's to ourselves to communicate with our other head
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 11, 2018, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: TWG Link on March 11, 2018, 09:24:07 PMCan we send PM's to ourselves to communicate with our other head
Yes
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 11, 2018, 09:51:01 PM
Unfortunately, sending a PM to yourself will also mark it as read. So, a word to everyone: Please check your PMs regularly
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 08:45:09 AM
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 11, 2018, 08:52:11 PMI haven't given it much through yet, but imo we shouldn't brand our individual selves publicly. Doing this runs the risk of giving the wolves more information for a better wolf target (such as seeking out more experienced combos, etc.), especially for their night 1 kill.

Also, having two wolves in a 7 player, day-start game means that we have two mislynches.

I feel like thats hardly preventable however we approach the game. Player's experience levels and twg intellect will eventually be revealed through their posts anyway whether or not each person behind the accounts are being shown as individuals or not, I'm sure the wolves will still manage to see what accounts pose as threats to them or not.

I find it interesting that you have wolfing targets in the back of your mind.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 09:07:21 AM
WAH Waluigi WAH doesn't WAH like WAH day WAH starts WAH at WAH allWAH  WAH this WAH is WAH why WAH Waluigi WAH is WAH thinking WAH ahead WAH to WAH night WAH one WAH because WAH this WAH phase WAH is WAH a WAH free WAH wolf WAH kill WAH and WAH doesn't WAH matter WAH muchWAH

WAH on WAH another WAH note, WAH Waluigi WAH is WAH suspected WAH by WAH Waluigi's WAH spellchecker WAH and WAH Link WAH is WAH suspected WAH by WAH Waluigi!  WAH Link WAH seems WAH quite WAH invested WAH in WAH coordinating WAH with WAH their WAH second WAH headWAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 09:51:13 AM
Waluigi, you seem simultaneously apathetic and jumpy to me. You're anxious for the night phase and think this phase doesn't matter much (but it should, since we need to coordinate before the wolves have a chance to start putting a dent in the human numbers), and yet you accuse Link of wolf-like behavior simply for trying to coordinate with his head. That doesn't make any sense; what part of coordinating with your other head is a bad thing?

Luigi, about this:
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 08:45:09 AMPlayer's experience levels and twg intellect will eventually be revealed through their posts anyway whether or not each person behind the accounts are being shown as individuals or not, I'm sure the wolves will still manage to see what accounts pose as threats to them or not.
It seems like here you're suggesting that it doesn't matter whether heads identify themselves or not; people will still be able to figure out to a general degree who other people are. So, would you still rather have heads be identified?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 10:22:02 AM
WAH I WAH see WAH inter-head WAH communication WAH as WAH something WAH vitally WAH more WAH important WAH for WAH wolves WAH than WAH for WAH humans WAH.  Link WAH seems WAH more WAH desparate WAH to WAH make WAH that WAH contact WAH than WAH anyone WAH else WAH so WAH far WAH, which WAH makes WAH him WAH an WAH outlier WAH to WAH me.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 12:42:03 PM
Waluigi is has a point. Coordinating with your other head is a lot more important for wolves than humans. That isn't to say it's not something town should try to do or that suggesting everyone try and get in communication is suspicious behavior, so I don't believe we should be pointing figners at Waluigi this early.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 09:51:13 AMWaluigi, you seem simultaneously apathetic and jumpy to me. You're anxious for the night phase and think this phase doesn't matter much (but it should, since we need to coordinate before the wolves have a chance to start putting a dent in the human numbers), and yet you accuse Link of wolf-like behavior simply for trying to coordinate with his head. That doesn't make any sense; what part of coordinating with your other head is a bad thing?

Luigi, about this:It seems like here you're suggesting that it doesn't matter whether heads identify themselves or not; people will still be able to figure out to a general degree who other people are. So, would you still rather have heads be identified?

I mean I'm not trying to figure out who other people are, I'm trying to figure out my reads on people more clearly. I could suspect an account for behaving strangely, but I don't know if that strangeness is because two different opinions are coming from it, or because they're in a panic or are making slip ups. Plus it allows us to look at things like,' ok person 1 of that account is acting strangely, but from clearly being able to identify all of person 2's posts, I can't say they've done anything un human like at all'.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 01:32:19 PMI mean I'm not trying to figure out who other people are, I'm trying to figure out my reads on people more clearly. I could suspect an account for behaving strangely, but I don't know if that strangeness is because two different opinions are coming from it, or because they're in a panic or are making slip ups. Plus it allows us to look at things like,' ok person 1 of that account is acting strangely, but from clearly being able to identify all of person 2's posts, I can't say they've done anything un human like at all'.
Ah, I see, that makes sense. Sporadic behavior can be analyzed better by knowing if it's two separate opinions or one person trying to cover their tracks, which is separate from wolves being able to recognize if an account has experience and skill behind it. I'd be okay with this.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 09:07:21 AMWAH Waluigi WAH doesn't WAH like WAH day WAH starts WAH at WAH allWAH  WAH this WAH is WAH why WAH Waluigi WAH is WAH thinking WAH ahead WAH to WAH night WAH one WAH because WAH this WAH phase WAH is WAH a WAH free WAH wolf WAH kill WAH and WAH doesn't WAH matter WAH muchWAH

Having the set opinion that this is a free wolf kill is very strange to me, and I don't see it as an opinion a good human should have.

The two people behind waluigi are pretty different in their post styles so its clear to tell when each different person is posting, and I've already found both of those people to sort of come across as not having a true town viewpoint (even if it was minor details) so I'm going to cast my vote on waluigi just now.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 01:49:36 PM
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 01:37:00 PMAh, I see, that makes sense. Sporadic behavior can be analyzed better by knowing if it's two separate opinions or one person trying to cover their tracks, which is separate from wolves being able to recognize if an account has experience and skill behind it. I'd be okay with this.
Yes exactly.

If we go with my plan instead of naming ourselves player 1/2 maybe just name ourselves a color (different from any other color any other player in the game has chosen), as I already said this will help our brains to remember each player as there won't be about 7 people called player 1/2, and also if we all stick to a color it makes it harder to guess what our real accounts are as we've stuck to a theme rather than us all making up our own names and we can guess who someone is because they picked someone from their favourite anime series or something lol. Only suggesting this because I think the host intends for our real accounts to be completely anonymous and I'd like to respect that and this avoids people throwing out hints to who they really are. (although from an actual strategic standpoint I would like to find out what your real account names are)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 02:14:34 PM
Everyone post MORE please! I don't want to be the only one talking here. Calling out these people in specific:

TWG Ness
TWG Link
TWG Haruhi Suzumiya
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 01:45:11 PMHaving the set opinion that this is a free wolf kill is very strange to me, and I don't see it as an opinion a good human should have.

The two people behind waluigi are pretty different in their post styles so its clear to tell when each different person is posting, and I've already found both of those people to sort of come across as not having a true town viewpoint (even if it was minor details) so I'm going to cast my vote on waluigi just now.
Dude tf?  Our d1 lynch is always a mis and you know it.  Idc if you think I'm not a good human, thats some shit reasoning for a vote.  Do better.
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 02:14:34 PMEveryone post MORE please!
lmao I wonder who luigi is. /s

I'm placing a vote on Link for the reason I mentioned earlier, and for general inactivity.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 02:29:30 PMIdc if you think I'm not a good human, thats some shit reasoning for a vote.
Half of you sure ain't trying. ::)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 02:33:51 PM
WAH Waluigi WAH apologizes WAH for WAH the WAH abruptness WAH but WAH agrees WAH Waluigi WAH vote WAH seems WAH weakWAH  WAH anyway WAH Waluigi WAH like's WAH Samus's WAH (Samuses? WAH) recent WAH posts WAH much WAH better WAH than WAH her WAH earlier WAH onesWAH
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 02:32:19 PMHalf of you sure ain't trying. ::)
Wahahaha!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 02:36:56 PM
You're not funny, you're just annoying. Honestly, I think that alone is a good enough reason to vote for you.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 12, 2018, 02:41:02 PM
For Clarification: You are always allowed to speculate who people are; however, you are never allowed to tell anyone but your partner who you are (Which you should all know your partner, I dm'ed the role invites in groups
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 02:43:54 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 02:36:56 PMYou're not funny, you're just annoying. Honestly, I think that alone is a good enough reason to vote for you.
WAH someone's... WAHlty!
(http://i.imgur.com/YX6ZTJ2.gif)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 02:56:20 PM
im just gonna go ahead and call myself player blue from now on so u know when i post

[Player Blue]

Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 02:29:30 PMDude tf?  Our d1 lynch is always a mis and you know it.

is it? do i? I don't feel like thats a good attitude to have regardless, you're kind of giving the impression you have no intention of catching a wolf today.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 03:12:18 PM
I was gonna keep up the memein', but I've been hit with a truck all of a sudden.  I've got a headache, feeling dizzy, stomach cramps... It ain't great.  Taking maximum precautions for the next couple days and  I don't feel like thinking about twg atm.  What I had arrived at so far (my partner seems to be going along with it so far /shrug) is that link is probs a wolf, luigi is definitely town, samus is feeling towny to me, and pika slightly towny as well.  Have to see more Ness and anything of Haruhi but I believe the wolves are going to be in that group of three.

Ugh I wish I was just making up these symptoms.  They feel very real right now...

Hopefully my partner can keep up the slack while I'm gone.  I'm so sorry guys, I'll be fighting fit soon, I'm sure.

-Ready Player WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 03:14:00 PM
ps if someone wolf reads me it's probably olimar thinking I'm bds lol

last meme
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 03:38:54 PM


Ness, Link, Haruhi, what are your thoughts on Waluigi's behaviour?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 12, 2018, 03:42:37 PM
Going all crazy, but we've seen certain people act like that before. So, I'm definitely getting a wolfy vibe, but I'm going to hold off on voting until Link and Haruhi post more.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Link on March 12, 2018, 03:46:18 PM
Tbh Waluigi's annoying as piss but I highly doubt he would be drawing so much attention to himself if he was really a wolf. Not too much to go on at this point honestly but my dm's are open.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 03:49:22 PM
I'll be running as player pink from now on.

I really don't like the way TWG Waluigi isn't taking this phase seriously. Aside from that, I really don't like how the WAH half is barely explaining their reasoning and really not contributing anything of substance. The other half seems too anxious and accusatory to defend, really.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 03:50:04 PM
Ick, that came out lighter than I wanted. I'll bold it too so it's more visible.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: TWG Link on March 12, 2018, 03:46:18 PMTbh Waluigi's annoying as piss but I highly doubt he would be drawing so much attention to himself if he was really a wolf. Not too much to go on at this point honestly but my dm's are open.
I dunno. Could be a "hiding in plain sight" kind of thing, or just trying too hard to fit in.

Quote from: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 03:49:22 PMI'll be running as player pink from now on.

I really don't like the way TWG Waluigi isn't taking this phase seriously. Aside from that, I really don't like how the WAH half is barely explaining their reasoning and really not contributing anything of substance. The other half seems too anxious and accusatory to defend, really.
Waluigi's an easy lynch, I mean, but that doesn't mean it's a bad lynch. Unhelpful players can be just as bad as wolves, especially if all they do is end up disorienting all the other players and distracting from actual wolf hunting.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 12, 2018, 04:23:10 PM
Vote Count:

TWG Waluigi- 2 (Luigi, Samus)
TWG Link- 1 (Waluigi)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 04:45:37 PM
[player blue]

 lol i didnt even mean to type in all blue but if we wanna do that then thats super cool, i just meant to start with [.blue] lol
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 04:48:01 PM
Quote from: TWG Ness on March 12, 2018, 03:42:37 PMGoing all crazy, but we've seen certain people act like that before. So, I'm definitely getting a wolfy vibe, but I'm going to hold off on voting until Link and Haruhi post more.
I presume this is towards waluigi? So you're thinking about voting waluigi too?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 04:48:48 PM

oops

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 04:48:01 PMI presume this is towards waluigi? So you're thinking about voting waluigi too?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 04:54:57 PM
I think a walugi lynch is a mistake. This is day one, any half decent wolf isn't going to give people a chance to read them. Ness is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm going to vote TWG Haruhi to get some posts from them.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 04:59:29 PM
Keep in mind, each account has two players, so inactivity is a more grave sign than it would normally be. One player being inactive? Happens all the time. Two seperate players grouped together by chance? Much more likely to be an intentional effort to slide under the day one radar.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 04:16:41 PMI dunno. Could be a "hiding in plain sight" kind of thing, or just trying too hard to fit in.
Waluigi's an easy lynch, I mean, but that doesn't mean it's a bad lynch. Unhelpful players can be just as bad as wolves, especially if all they do is end up disorienting all the other players and distracting from actual wolf hunting.
You have a valid point here. Lynching a bad human for the sake of them not helping the humans still will not help us in the long run, as it puts the wolves closer to parity. As it stands, I am keeping my vote on Waluigi, however, I am interested in pursuing a different vote and will be looking into other posts, especially as the phase progresses and more people post.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 09:02:37 PM
Also, if it was not clear, I will be assuming the color purple to distinguish myself from the head that posts in pink.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 12, 2018, 09:27:06 PM
I guess I'll be grey then. I'll post more thoughts later. I'm still suspicious of Waluigi, but I don't know how many more votes is an Insta, so I'll just wait for now and get my ideas out at a more convenient time.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 12, 2018, 09:28:32 PM
I mean convenient time as in real life convenient time cause I need sleep.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 06:15:40 AM
Quote from: TWG Ness on March 12, 2018, 09:27:06 PMI guess I'll be grey then. I'll post more thoughts later. I'm still suspicious of Waluigi, but I don't know how many more votes is an Insta, so I'll just wait for now and get my ideas out at a more convenient time.
i dont like this one bit
pushing the lynch without actually applying pressure
feels like "yes ppl lynch this one, but my hands are clean just in case"
also mentioning insta feels like an attempt to get free human cred

in case you haven't heard, apparenlty theres no cardflips
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 06:20:53 AM
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 04:54:57 PMI think a walugi lynch is a mistake. This is day one, any half decent wolf isn't going to give people a chance to read them. Ness is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm going to vote TWG Haruhi to get some posts from them.
this was over 12 hours ago, haruhi still not here

while im here: feels like im being thrown under suspicion for having a differnet mindset day one.  im looking ahead to the nightkill because we never have day starts.  i dont like it.  id rather this phase just be over with so that we have some information to work with
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 07:36:44 AM
[p. blue]

haruhi
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 11:59:26 AM
Okay so I've got the gist of what's going on here. I'm going to go ahead and switch my vote to TWG Luigi. I still think we should not be actively splitting our personalities until day 2 as to not aid the wolves. Luigi has been pushing this and now has placed their vote on the only inactive player in the game. With such a small number of players and only one mislynch allowed before losing, we can't afford to waste it when there are plenty of people posting and playing to read into. With two votes on them (Haruhi), it would be easy to accidentally insta them.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 13, 2018, 12:04:11 PM
Vote Count: Phase ends in 4 Hours

TWG Waluigi- 1 (Samus)
TWG Luigi- 1 (Waluigi)
TWG Haruhi- 2 (Luigi, Pikachu)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 13, 2018, 12:19:27 PM
I'm not entirely comfortable with lynching someone just for being inactive, but I agree with Pikachu that it's far more suspicious in a game with multiple heads than under normal circumstances.[/pink]
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 01:02:12 PM


Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 11:59:26 AMOkay so I've got the gist of what's going on here. I'm going to go ahead and switch my vote to TWG Luigi. I still think we should not be actively splitting our personalities until day 2 as to not aid the wolves.
I mean, I've already said why this is more beneficial for the humans than wolves multiple times and you haven't directly replied to my comments on that before, so I don't know why you've held back to only now bring up your dislike again and add a vote onto it. Seems like you don't want to get into a discussion about your dislike for a plan that harms the wolves. Delaying it until day 2 makes no sense, you should either agree with it or disagree with it, there should be no delay. From the posts I've seen so far I've already been able to read into what players seem more experienced than others, and I'd guess the wolves have been able to do that too, however, I have not been able to split each player into two separate people and gather accurate readings (which my plan would allow). Thus your only critique of my plan has, as mentioned before, already happened, (players experience levels are becoming noticeable).

Also, I'm assuming you're not the wah waluigi;
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 03:12:18 PMWhat I had arrived at so far (my partner seems to be going along with it so far /shrug) is that link is probs a wolf, luigi is definitely town, samus is feeling towny to me, and pika slightly towny as well.
Apparently you agreed with wah waluigi that I'm definitely town, your reasoning for my vote on me is based on things happening prior to this post of your partners, so why the sudden change in thoughts of me being most town to least town?

Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 06:20:53 AMwhile im here: feels like im being thrown under suspicion for having a differnet mindset day one.  im looking ahead to the nightkill because we never have day starts.  i dont like it.  id rather this phase just be over with so that we have some information to work with
In this post again you disregard the fact that we can still collect information from behaviours of people during the day phase, even without a night phase start. You're only interested in collecting information from a physical action taken place, and not reading into anything, which is precisely the behaviour I'd expect from a wolf, you have no interest in reading into people because you already know who the wolves are, and thus the only thing you're interested in is seemingly wanting to figure out who committed the wolfing.

What makes this interesting is that your partner (assuming again you're not wah waluigi) also was disinterested in collecting any info from this phase, as seen here;
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 09:07:21 AMWAH Waluigi WAH doesn't WAH like WAH day WAH starts WAH at WAH allWAH  WAH this WAH is WAH why WAH Waluigi WAH is WAH thinking WAH ahead WAH to WAH night WAH one WAH because WAH this WAH phase WAH is WAH a WAH free WAH wolf WAH kill WAH and WAH doesn't WAH matter WAH muchWAH
It's interesting you both seem to have the same non good human viewpoint.

Also, as you're someone convinced that we're not going to catch a wolf this day phase, it's strange how you're coming after someone you seemed to think was sure town before, and you're not going after an inactive (haruhi) which would be much more fitting to the kind of mindset you have on? As in, if this lynch is going to be a waste anyway, might as well lynch the inactive, but you're going for someone you thought was town?


And another point; I can also see you telling your wah partner to take a break from the day because you felt he was gonna get you lynched day 1, especially after he picked up 2 votes for you. If anyone missed it, the wah waluigi player decided to take a couple days break from this?

Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 03:12:18 PMI was gonna keep up the memein', but I've been hit with a truck all of a sudden.  I've got a headache, feeling dizzy, stomach cramps... It ain't great.  Taking maximum precautions for the next couple days and  I don't feel like thinking about twg atm.  What I had arrived at so far (my partner seems to be going along with it so far /shrug) is that link is probs a wolf, luigi is definitely town, samus is feeling towny to me, and pika slightly towny as well.  Have to see more Ness and anything of Haruhi but I believe the wolves are going to be in that group of three.

Ugh I wish I was just making up these symptoms.  They feel very real right now...

Hopefully my partner can keep up the slack while I'm gone.  I'm so sorry guys, I'll be fighting fit soon, I'm sure.

-Ready Player WAH

i await ur response waluigi
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 01:02:58 PM
 ^^^^^this was all blue luigi idk why it didnt turn blue ^^^^


Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 01:22:21 PM
If I'm gonna be totally honest my heads are not in sync right now.  I'm feeling better than I was last night but I'm still achy and can't do "efforts" stuff like sit in front of my comp.  I've still been posting- just not as well as I'd like.  I've been covering for my partner cause I don't like his playstyle at all so it came across as me being intentionally bad.  And I'm just as confused about the Luigi vote as you, but I guess partner really thinks you're a wolf?  I'm gonna leave this phase up to them because Bleh but also trying to convince them a Luigi vote is just dumb
Also not all posts are from the head you think they're from might wanna double check that
-Ready player WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Haruhi Suzumiya on March 13, 2018, 01:23:02 PM
Evening, everybody.  Sorry, I'm here to stay.

Luigi's plan is just fine; even if it isn't a game-winner, it sure doesn't hurt us. Purple from here on out.

I have absolutely no strong feelings so far.  There's a reason why most games start on a night phase--there's no guilty person to hunt down yet.  Obviously I want to get rid of Waluigi for the heinous posting style, but that's not necessarily terribly helpful to my team.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 04:54:57 PMI think a walugi lynch is a mistake. This is day one, any half decent wolf isn't going to give people a chance to read them.

I don't love the Pikachu logic on display here.  This is an entirely new game style--it's entirely possible that, if a wolf, Waluigi hadn't quite gotten his two heads on the same wavelength yet.  The flip side to this argument, though, is that it's more natural for human heads to be discontinuous with each other.  This is why I don't have strong feelings yet--disagreeing partners could really go either way depending on who's controlling the accounts.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: TWG Haruhi Suzumiya on March 13, 2018, 01:23:02 PMEvening, everybody.  Sorry, I'm here to stay.

Luigi's plan is just fine; even if it isn't a game-winner, it sure doesn't hurt us. Purple from here on out.

I have absolutely no strong feelings so far.  There's a reason why most games start on a night phase--there's no guilty person to hunt down yet.  Obviously I want to get rid of Waluigi for the heinous posting style, but that's not necessarily terribly helpful to my team.
I don't love the Pikachu logic on display here.  This is an entirely new game style--it's entirely possible that, if a wolf, Waluigi hadn't quite gotten his two heads on the same wavelength yet.  The flip side to this argument, though, is that it's more natural for human heads to be discontinuous with each other.  This is why I don't have strong feelings yet--disagreeing partners could really go either way depending on who's controlling the accounts.
is there a reason why you haven't said anything before
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 13, 2018, 02:26:02 PM
I'm leaning Haruhi or Ness. I still do not believe a wolf would want to come in like a wrecking ball day one.

Quote from: TWG Haruhi Suzumiya on March 13, 2018, 01:23:02 PMI don't love the Pikachu logic on display here.  This is an entirely new game style--it's entirely possible that, if a wolf, Waluigi hadn't quite gotten his two heads on the same wavelength yet.  The flip side to this argument, though, is that it's more natural for human heads to be discontinuous with each other.  This is why I don't have strong feelings yet--disagreeing partners could really go either way depending on who's controlling the accounts.[/color]

If anything, this new game style would promote wolves to be more inactive, for exactly the reason Waluigi is putting on display here. When you're sharing a body with someone, you're less likely to take risks.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Link on March 13, 2018, 02:56:54 PM
Placing a quick vote on TWG Ness for the moment. Haruhi's post, while still suspicious, still feels more genuinely human-oriented than most of what Ness has said so far. However, I haven't really spoken to my other head that much recently (he doesn't seem to be online...) so this might change.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 13, 2018, 03:08:24 PM
There's been enough discussion around Waluigi that I'm willing to drop my vote...for now. He's still in hot water but I'd agree that inactivity is a better strategy for wolves on day 1 rather than what Waluigi has been doing. For that reason, I am changing my vote to TWG Ness for his relatively hands-off approach to this phase.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 03:21:12 PM
phase ends in like 40 mins if people didnt realise
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 03:27:46 PM
i can understand a ness vote as his behaviour has been pretty passive and he evaded my post directed to him which i kind of wanted him to expand on his waluigi thoughts.
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 12, 2018, 04:48:01 PMI presume this is towards waluigi? So you're thinking about voting waluigi too?

I also don't like this post from him
Quote from: TWG Ness on March 12, 2018, 09:27:06 PMI guess I'll be grey then. I'll post more thoughts later. I'm still suspicious of Waluigi, but I don't know how many more votes is an Insta, so I'll just wait for now and get my ideas out at a more convenient time.
Because he is acting seemingly helpful and interested, but he actually hasn't given much of any of his own real opinions so far, and I'd also expect a human to be a lot more interested in sharing any thoughts they actually had immediately rather than waiting until the next day ('convenient time'). So I'm actually going to assume he actually didn't have any ideas or thoughts, but just wanted to appear like he had that kind of interest in catching wolves.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 03:28:44 PM
 oh, quotes close color tags, but ye thats all mr blue^



this was my idea and im so bad at it
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: TWG Link on March 13, 2018, 02:56:54 PMPlacing a quick vote on TWG Ness for the moment. Haruhi's post, while still suspicious, still feels more genuinely human-oriented than most of what Ness has said so far. However, I haven't really spoken to my other head that much recently (he doesn't seem to be online...) so this might change.
I don't like the way this vote is worded for some reason.  I'm keeping my suspicions on you from earlier.

You would think Ness with the promise to be back... Would actually be back.

I'm going to unvote because Luigi doesn't deserve it, then I'm going to wait for Ness to show up.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Haruhi Suzumiya on March 13, 2018, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 03:21:12 PMphase ends in like 40 mins if people didnt realise

He said roughly 48 hours.  You sure?

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 01:49:58 PMis there a reason why you haven't said anything before
I've been busy.  For the sake of avoiding a phantom, TWG Pikachu.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on March 13, 2018, 12:04:11 PMVote Count: Phase ends in 4 Hours

TWG Waluigi- 1 (Samus)
TWG Luigi- 1 (Waluigi)
TWG Haruhi- 2 (Luigi, Pikachu)

 yeah it ends in 11 mins
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
TWG Ness

And I actually feel good about this.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 03:58:44 PM
 i wanted to discuss with my partner before casting my final vote but I also agree with ness, I'd like to give haruhi more of a chance now that they're here, and I'm sure I can get clearer reads on Waluigi as the game goes on
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 13, 2018, 04:00:34 PM
TWG 101: Hydradoodle
A Hydra game

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Seer
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human

Seer gets a random green check when the game starts

For those of you unaware with hydra games, it's played with mystery accounts and two players share a single account.  Either player can post or do anything without the permission of the other players, but it gives you a second head to talk to.  You can do things like put an experienced player with a less experienced player or just completely randomize it.  This setup is prone to good RNG, like if the seer hits the wolf N1 or the wolf hits the seer N1, but it ought to be a quick fun game.  After how long 100 lasted I think a shorter one would be fun.

Players:

1. TWG Luigi
2. TWG Ness
3. TWG Link
4. TWG Pikachu
5. TWG Samus
6. TWG Waluigi
7. TWG Haruhi Suzumiya



KITB! TWG Haruhi was lynched. It is now Night 1. Night 1 Ends in roughly 24 hours
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Hm?  That's not supposed to happen
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 13, 2018, 04:02:06 PM
In order for votes to be counted, they must be in bold
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
 i didnt even vote lmao im bad
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 04:05:04 PM
 oh shit samus' vote isnt counting?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 04:06:06 PM
I guess this gives Ness a chance to show up
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 04:08:32 PM
omgg i got really distracted when typing my post before night ended, and i thought ness already had most votes
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 04:19:42 PM
Sharing thoughts right now: I don't think the Haruhi lynch was a bad one, although I maintain that Waluigi was probably better. I'll go back and analyze the (intended) votes more later.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 13, 2018, 04:28:31 PM
*sigh* We're really going to do it like that? I didn't know my coding was screwed up until after posting but I figured it would be obvious enough. Haruhi's not a terrible lynch, but that's a stupid reason for a KitB to occur.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 13, 2018, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 13, 2018, 04:28:31 PM*sigh* We're really going to do it like that? I didn't know my coding was screwed up until after posting but I figured it would be obvious enough. Haruhi's not a terrible lynch, but that's a stupid reason for a KitB to occur.
My bad, Just remember to bold from now on.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 13, 2018, 04:38:44 PM
Tbh I didn't trust either of them so I wasn't going to bother with whichever one it was.
Haruhi or Ness, I mean. Wah got jumped too hard, to fast for me to buy anything against him.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 13, 2018, 04:38:44 PMTbh I didn't trust either of them so I wasn't going to bother with whichever one it was.
Haruhi or Ness, I mean. Wah got jumped too hard, to fast for me to buy anything against him.

waluigi got 2 votes, and the discussion was over the entire 48 hours of day near enough, if anyone was too hard too fast it was ness with 4/7 players agreeing with the lynch
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 13, 2018, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: BrainyLucario on March 13, 2018, 04:38:18 PMMy bad, Just remember to bold from now on.

Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on May 19, 2016, 09:18:36 PMIS THIS BOLD ENOUGH FOR YOU OLI/SEBASTIAN BRAINY
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 13, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 13, 2018, 04:53:09 PM
Okay. I thank you for clarifying.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 05:12:38 PM
Now, to discuss plans for next day?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
Maybe we can not discuss things publicly to give the wolves more info?  Feel free to dm me tho
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 06:42:32 PM
we know we have an alliance set up so some discussing would be going on there about any plans
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 07:05:27 PM
Does this mean you are claiming to be the green check?  Sorry if I don't immediately believe you.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 13, 2018, 08:04:41 PM
No, and I don't think there's anything in that post that implied that.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 08:27:54 PM
Ah mb totally misread that post.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 02:13:59 PM
 ok so can we all get on board with differentiating our posts between our partners because if only half of us are doing it it doesn't really work as well, and also looks bad for those who aren't doing it
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pit on March 14, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
I hope i'm doing this right.....

Hey Everyone! Pit here with an announcement from Brainy

The phase has been extended for 3 more hours, this way phase changes will no longer conflict with his schedule and everyone can be happy!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 14, 2018, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 02:13:59 PM ok so can we all get on board with differentiating our posts between our partners because if only half of us are doing it it doesn't really work as well, and also looks bad for those who aren't doing it
I've been trying to distinguish my posts, but sometimes I forget.  Color change would be even harder.
-WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 14, 2018, 03:27:29 PM
It's like you aren't even trying.
-WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 04:12:34 PM
u just type the name of a color in square brackets
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 04:20:58 PM
Yeah bruh it's pretty easy.

Also where is everybody else. Game's pretty much dead right now.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 14, 2018, 04:34:19 PM
it's nighttime
idk about you but I'm not going to give the wolves any more info to inform their kill
-WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 14, 2018, 04:44:27 PM
Now that is an idea that I can get behind.
-WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 06:57:03 PM
So before night is over, in case I die, I want to get some of my thoughts out.

I've re-read the topic and I'd just like to mention some points on people that I would like people to consider:

I really like this post from link:
Quote from: TWG Link on March 12, 2018, 03:46:18 PMTbh Waluigi's annoying as piss but I highly doubt he would be drawing so much attention to himself if he was really a wolf. Not too much to go on at this point honestly but my dm's are open.
It shows he is making an evaluation on waluigi instead of taking a blatant viewpoint. Noticing if people are drawing too much attention to themselves or not is something I often always like to consider as a human too, so I like that he is also doing it. He is also making a defence for waluigi, which would rarely happen between two wolf partners, so I'm very positive this is either a human/human or a wolf/human interaction and not a wolf/wolf one. I also like that he suggests players can communicate with him if they like, further adding to his interest in creating discussion and showing that he doesn't mind having a close discussion with another player.


I've found Samus to be a very contributing player for the humans cause so far, they have taken interest in making discussion and evaluating players, in particular waluigi's. They have also made a vote on Waluigi and Ness, and as it stands my top suspicions are Ness, Waluigi and with a possibility of it also being Pikachu, and I don't think a wolf would be so eager to vote for one of their partners so early, especially when there had been no strong reasoning for either. So I'm really believing in Samus' humanity.


Time is actually running out for me to post this because i got busy, but people are probably thinking that Waluigi has been possibly too controversial and drawing too much attention to themselves for them to be a wolf, while I would usually agree, I also think that one of the Waluigi's is possibly Nocturne, now, while by the rules he is not allowed to really confirm or deny his identity (although we can still publicly speculate) I think its very in character for Nocturne to draw lots of attention to himself, no matter what his role would be. I have also noticed a strong change in character from Waluigi as a whole since I made my long post commenting on him. He has rather taken quite a step back from the topic and sharing much at all which I find odd.

As another player I find suspicious, Ness is still yet to contribute much of anything, and this is the second time I'm bringing it up now, but he had said before he would come back with his 'ideas' yesterday (as that was more convenient for him) and yet he has failed to do so, and I still stand by the fact that I doubt a human would delay in posting any of their thoughts they had, if they actually had them, which as I said before, makes me think he didn't have any thoughts at all, and was lying, because he is a wolf.

For Pikachu, he has seemed to play rather safe, and has actually kind of lined himself up to be in a wolf pairing with Waluigi. He has sided with a player 3 times this game only, and all 3 of those times that player was Waluigi:
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 12:42:03 PMWaluigi is has a point. Coordinating with your other head is a lot more important for wolves than humans. That isn't to say it's not something town should try to do or that suggesting everyone try and get in communication is suspicious behavior, so I don't believe we should be pointing figners at Waluigi this early.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 04:54:57 PMI think a walugi lynch is a mistake. This is day one, any half decent wolf isn't going to give people a chance to read them. Ness is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm going to vote TWG Haruhi to get some posts from them.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 13, 2018, 02:26:02 PMI'm leaning Haruhi or Ness. I still do not believe a wolf would want to come in like a wrecking ball day one.

If anything, this new game style would promote wolves to be more inactive, for exactly the reason Waluigi is putting on display here. When you're sharing a body with someone, you're less likely to take risks.
Usually I don't look into wolf/wolf pairings too often, but this is just plain odd I find that waluigi is the only player he has sort of sided with, and he has done so 3 times. Waluigi being suspicious only worsens it.


I would like to hear more from ness and pikachu, and if I die I trust you guys to make the right decisions in who to vote (and actually vote and bolden lol)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 06:59:58 PM
 Also, as we have an alliance going on, at day, one of the seered green humans in the alliance should claim to the topic, hopefully we have at least 2 people in the alliance still day 2. If we have a red seering result lynch that, if we don't then use the results of the green humans to help you determine between the rest who may be the wolf. But I think it's quite important we have someone to claim, as if we mess up this lynch and haruhi wasn't a wolf its game over. And we dont want the seer to claim to put themselves in danger of being wolfed, but if there are no green humans alive in the alliacne, the seer should proabbly claim
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 14, 2018, 07:00:26 PM
TWG 101: Hydradoodle
A Hydra game

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Seer
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human

Seer gets a random green check when the game starts

For those of you unaware with hydra games, it's played with mystery accounts and two players share a single account.  Either player can post or do anything without the permission of the other players, but it gives you a second head to talk to.  You can do things like put an experienced player with a less experienced player or just completely randomize it.  This setup is prone to good RNG, like if the seer hits the wolf N1 or the wolf hits the seer N1, but it ought to be a quick fun game.  After how long 100 lasted I think a shorter one would be fun.

Players:

1. TWG Luigi
2. TWG Ness
3. TWG Link
4. TWG Pikachu
5. TWG Samus
6. TWG Waluigi
7. TWG Haruhi Suzumiya



TWG Link was Wolfed during the night. It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends in roughly 48 Hours
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 07:02:16 PM
 lol panic typing for nothing, rip my number 1 human
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 08:37:36 PM
Honestly wish we had been wolfed. Oh well.

Before we do anything, first seer check pls claim and confirm who was seered last night. You should be the lynch leader for this phase, since otherwise, we've just got another blind lynch, which we probably can't afford this phase.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 14, 2018, 08:38:59 PM
I suppose I'll post in this color, but I think distinguishing between the two heads ruins what makes this game fun and unique. Without the ambiguity of combined accounts, it's mostly just a regular TWG (with the bonus of inactivty reading! Yay....)

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 06:57:03 PMFor Pikachu, he has seemed to play rather safe, and has actually kind of lined himself up to be in a wolf pairing with Waluigi. He has sided with a player 3 times this game only, and all 3 of those times that player was Waluigi:Usually I don't look into wolf/wolf pairings too often, but this is just plain odd I find that waluigi is the only player he has sort of sided with, and he has done so 3 times. Waluigi being suspicious only worsens it.

Distancing is a concept everyone in this game should understand. Me defending Waluigi so blantantly should be a neutral read.

d1, I was pretty sure the wolves are among this crowd:
Haruhi, Ness, Link, Waluigi (in order of likelyhood)

With the way the lynch went:
Link and Ness became unviable partners and Link and Haruhi became a strong pairing, Waluigi and Ness became unviable partners and Waluigi and Haruhi became strong partners.

Then link died, leaving these two pairings: Waluigi + Haruhi, Ness + Haruhi. I'm pretty sure we hit a wolf, and as you've all probably figured out I'm leaning much more strongly on Ness.

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 06:59:58 PM Also, as we have an alliance going on, at day, one of the seered green humans in the alliance should claim to the topic, hopefully we have at least 2 people in the alliance still day 2. If we have a red seering result lynch that, if we don't then use the results of the green humans to help you determine between the rest who may be the wolf. But I think it's quite important we have someone to claim, as if we mess up this lynch and haruhi wasn't a wolf its game over. And we dont want the seer to claim to put themselves in danger of being wolfed, but if there are no green humans alive in the alliacne, the seer should proabbly claim

Link may have been the green check or the seer.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 14, 2018, 08:43:36 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 08:37:36 PMHonestly wish we had been wolfed. Oh well.

Before we do anything, first seer check pls claim and confirm who was seered last night. You should be the lynch leader for this phase, since otherwise, we've just got another blind lynch, which we probably can't afford this phase.
We are the Seer and we got a red check on Waluigi last night. Sorry for the lack of posting, I didn't wanna give my role away to the wolves last night.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 09:00:36 PM
Quote from: TWG Ness on March 14, 2018, 08:43:36 PMWe are the Seer and we got a red check on Waluigi last night. Sorry for the lack of posting, I didn't wanna give my role away to the wolves last night.
Booyah, called it.

Who was your seer check? Who did you seer last night? And, finally... any counterclaims?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 09:00:58 PM
excuse me for forgetting to read

waluigi was obviously your seering last night
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 14, 2018, 09:11:08 PM
this is gonna be my only post for a while, so pay atteniiton:

If haruhi was a human, DO NOT VOTE.  A single vote means the wolves can jump on it and win the game on the spot.
Additionally, it seems to me link was pretty suspicious during the day phase.  I find it convenient that minutes before night ends luigi reads link as their "number 1 town" only for them to die out of left field.  We've been blindly following luigi as town for suggesting a simple plan, but their actions the past 24 hours have been quite wolfy to me.

getting this out of the way now:  Having a second head is detrimental to my playstyle.  I share my thoughts as often as possible and my other head was quite clear that they weren't going to let that happen.  Adding to that whatever I'm sick with (thinking the flu) and I'm not nearly as helpful as I can be.  That being said, I think I've got this game cleared up.  Like pikachu said, if haruhi was a wolf, it's pretty clear ness is their partner.  But that means we can wait a phase since we're not in a losing position there.  So if haruhi was human that changes things.  Like I already mentioned, Luigi's actions last night were suspicious to say the least.  My first suggestion for their partner would be link but uh... clearly that's not the case.

I firmly believe pikachu is human.  They're playing methodically and have good reads.  Ness is obviously filthy to no end, especially because of that weak post during late day 1.  I legitimately see no interactions between ness and luigi, except for the fact that LUIGI CONVENIENTLY DID NOT VOTE FOR NESS.  "Whoops, silly me!  I didn't vote for ANYBODY!"  One convenient thing after another.  There hasn't been a lot of activity this game, and part of that is my fault, but I'm making up for that right now.  The wolves are Luigi and Ness, and there's no way I'm wrong about that.

NINJAD:

That's the gutsiest (pun nintendo'd) claim I've ever seen.  There's no way Ness is the seer.  Lemme guess- your green check is either Luigi (your wolf partner) or dead.  This is clearly a false claim.  If nobody counterclaims, I'm betting the real seer was probably Link, and you guys somehow realized that and killed them off "Link is clearly the most human person in this game oh look I was right".  I'm not going to vote for either of you yet because a mistake here is potentially catastrophic, but I'm not just going to ignore how shady Ness looked just because he's claiming seer with a convenient red result on me.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 14, 2018, 09:28:41 PM
Actually, my green check was Samus.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 14, 2018, 09:55:56 PM
I hope you guys remember what Charu said last game. Once samus confirms, we're lynching Waluigi unless someone counterclaims.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 14, 2018, 10:34:55 PM
Quote from: TWG Ness on March 14, 2018, 09:28:41 PMActually, my green check was Samus.
I have not been contacted by Ness, or any other seer, for that matter. Ness, if you seer'd me green day 1, why did you not contact me?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 14, 2018, 09:11:08 PMDO NOT VOTE.  A single vote means the wolves can jump on it and win the game on the spot.
^^^ You're right about that.

Quote from: TWG Samus on March 14, 2018, 10:34:55 PMI have not been contacted by Ness, or any other seer, for that matter. Ness, if you seer'd me green day 1, why did you not contact me?
I find that rather suspicious on Ness's part. Personally, I doubt Link was the seer, but if there are no counterclaims, I think Ness's claim is logical enough to believe.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 01:42:00 AM
yeah why has ness not contacted his green human result, i said in topic night 1 too that we should have an alliance going on, which was kind of my hint that if they havent already done it, the seer should contact the green human result
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 01:44:53 AM
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 14, 2018, 09:11:08 PMNINJAD:

That's the gutsiest (pun nintendo'd) claim I've ever seen.  There's no way Ness is the seer.  Lemme guess- your green check is either Luigi (your wolf partner) or dead.  This is clearly a false claim.  If nobody counterclaims, I'm betting the real seer was probably Link, and you guys somehow realized that and killed them off "Link is clearly the most human person in this game oh look I was right".  I'm not going to vote for either of you yet because a mistake here is potentially catastrophic, but I'm not just going to ignore how shady Ness looked just because he's claiming seer with a convenient red result on me.
Also I don't believe it took you 28 mins to type out this post for you to then get ninja'd by ness claiming you as red, i think you saw his post and then typed up how you thought you were suspicious of him in attempt to strengthen your humanity
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: Toby on March 15, 2018, 05:35:46 AM
Oops wrong account don't ban me!!!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 15, 2018, 05:55:06 AM
Other Pika here
Damn it Ness you had one job.
All options here:
The most likely:
1) Ness is the seer and he was stupid
2) Ness is a wolf who got lucky because the real seer is dead
Less likely:
3) The real seer isn't counter-claiming, but they'd have to be pretty stupid not to as this is a free shot at a wolf.
Unlikely:
4) The real seer is feeding Ness information because he was the green check. However, if this was the case, samus would be jumping to back Ness up.

Thoughts? None of these are nice options, but I may be leaning towards 1
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 08:15:45 AM
[bluee]so I kind of just want to go back and put out there a point I made before, but just reiterate it and add onto it

Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 12, 2018, 03:12:18 PMI was gonna keep up the memein', but I've been hit with a truck all of a sudden.  I've got a headache, feeling dizzy, stomach cramps... It ain't great.  Taking maximum precautions for the next couple days and  I don't feel like thinking about twg atm.  What I had arrived at so far (my partner seems to be going along with it so far /shrug) is that link is probs a wolf, luigi is definitely town, samus is feeling towny to me, and pika slightly towny as well.  Have to see more Ness and anything of Haruhi but I believe the wolves are going to be in that group of three.

Ugh I wish I was just making up these symptoms.  They feel very real right now...

Hopefully my partner can keep up the slack while I'm gone.  I'm so sorry guys, I'll be fighting fit soon, I'm sure.

-Ready Player WAH

in bold is what I believe to be was a false statement from waluigi, and there was in fact no communication between him and his partner regarding them thinking I'm town, this being backed up by them a few posts later contradicting this thought with a vote, and the other waluigi then admitting his partner didn't think I was town. I think this is a good point to support waluigi being a wolf, as a wolf is very very unlikely to communicate on who they think is town with their partner.



Also on another note, me being a wolf with ness is silly, if ness is a wolf his partner was haruhi, and I doubt a wolf would be claiming seer if one of them was already dead. I believe we should lynch waluigi today as if he is a wolf, it's likely he still has a partner left alive, if ness is the wolf, I believe his partner is already dead otherwise we would have ness and his wolf partner both claiming to be from the alliance, and both agreeing they have been in communication since day 1.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 08:17:33 AM
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 15, 2018, 05:55:06 AMOther Pika here
Damn it Ness you had one job.
All options here:
The most likely:
1) Ness is the seer and he was stupid
2) Ness is a wolf who got lucky because the real seer is dead
Less likely:
3) The real seer isn't counter-claiming, but they'd have to be pretty stupid not to as this is a free shot at a wolf.
Unlikely:
4) The real seer is feeding Ness information because he was the green check. However, if this was the case, samus would be jumping to back Ness up.

Thoughts? None of these are nice options, but I may be leaning towards 1
Yeah these are fair possibilities, and I agree with how likely they'd be with the order you have them in
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 15, 2018, 10:18:53 AM
I'm not convinced Ness is just a seer who is playing badly. Seering Waluigi red is absolutely the safest possible false seering someone could make, aside from seering Luigi green, but no good seer would seer Luigi night 1 after Waluigi's antics and Luigi's...well, non-antics. Secondly, yes it's possible that Ness just forgot to contact me, but that's less possible given that he almost got lynched day 1. In fact, he would have been lynched if that one vote had been properly counted. Whose vote was that again? Right, the human he supposedly had a green check for. Don't you think he would have made some attempt to message me after I voted to say "wait, don't vote for me, I'm the seer and I saw you green, let's talk"? Or even during the night phase to say "you almost got me killed, let's make sure that doesn't happen again." As it stands, Ness is playing things way too close to the chest and way too risky if he really is the seer, which I don't believe he is.

That being said, Waluigi is definitely the safest lynch to go for today, so I'm still completely willing to lynch him first if that's the decision we come to. However, keep Ness at the front of your mind.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 15, 2018, 05:22:40 PM
pikachu is 100% the only one of you who has a head (or two) on their shoulders.
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 14, 2018, 10:52:06 PMI think Ness's claim is logical enough to believe.
NO
No, it's not.  not remotely.  If ness was the seer it would have been better to claim yesterday when it seemed apparent they were dying, not today right at the beginning of the phase.  Ness is so obviously a wolf here and the fact that you're defending their claim makes you look even more like partners.
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 15, 2018, 10:18:53 AMI'm not convinced Ness is just a seer who is playing badly. Seering Waluigi red is absolutely the safest possible false seering someone could make, aside from seering Luigi green, but no good seer would seer Luigi night 1 after Waluigi's antics and Luigi's...well, non-antics. Secondly, yes it's possible that Ness just forgot to contact me, but that's less possible given that he almost got lynched day 1. In fact, he would have been lynched if that one vote had been properly counted. Whose vote was that again? Right, the human he supposedly had a green check for. Don't you think he would have made some attempt to message me after I voted to say "wait, don't vote for me, I'm the seer and I saw you green, let's talk"? Or even during the night phase to say "you almost got me killed, let's make sure that doesn't happen again." As it stands, Ness is playing things way too close to the chest and way too risky if he really is the seer, which I don't believe he is.

You're overthinking things.  Ness didn't claim to you because they didn't really get the randcheck on you, that's the only thing LOGICAL enough to believe.  Your vote on them as well is super incriminating for them because this couldn't even be a Samus/Ness wolf plan unless you specifically asked the host if there was a way you could make something look like a vote without counting it, and that's super angleshooty.

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 08:15:45 AM[bluee]so I kind of just want to go back and put out there a point I made before, but just reiterate it and add onto it

in bold is what I believe to be was a false statement from waluigi, and there was in fact no communication between him and his partner regarding them thinking I'm town, this being backed up by them a few posts later contradicting this thought with a vote, and the other waluigi then admitting his partner didn't think I was town. I think this is a good point to support waluigi being a wolf, as a wolf is very very unlikely to communicate on who they think is town with their partner.

Also on another note, me being a wolf with ness is silly, if ness is a wolf his partner was haruhi, and I doubt a wolf would be claiming seer if one of them was already dead. I believe we should lynch waluigi today as if he is a wolf, it's likely he still has a partner left alive, if ness is the wolf, I believe his partner is already dead otherwise we would have ness and his wolf partner both claiming to be from the alliance, and both agreeing they have been in communication since day 1.
my heads haven't been communicating well due to a multitude of reasons, possibly even chemistry.  For the first little while I was more or less sending them my thoughts and they weren't responding at all.  I thought my other head was being dumb, but they called you out much sooner than I did.  I don't think anyone's bothered re-evaluating  you since the beginning of the game.  "A wolf is very very unlikely to communicate on who they think is town with their partner."  This is the wolfiest thing you've said yet and I'm so close to voting you over ness.  There's no way wolves would say anything without consulting with their second head first for exactly the reason you're trying to push on me.  And the reason Ness' wolf partner claiming to be from the alliance doesn't work is because I already called you out, so they had to come up with another fake check.

It's not possible ness is the seer- they would have seered me last night and know that pushing this lynch ends the game.  If they are not the seer they're either being really dumb or they're a wolf.  I want to say ness is just really dumb but that post on day 1 was sketchy to no end and for someone in their position they should be doing a lot more than dropping a convenient result and leaving for another 48 hours.
-WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 05:29:28 PM
im excited to get this game over, everyone else ok with voting waluigi now?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 15, 2018, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 05:29:28 PMim excited to get this game over, everyone else ok with voting waluigi now?
wolfpost alert
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 15, 2018, 05:30:49 PM
i think it's likely waluigi still has a partner alive, but i just wanna get on to the next phase already lmao
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 15, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Alright, I know I look very suspicious now, and it's all on me for playing badly. I will admit, not claiming to Samus sooner was a serious brain fart on my end, and it definitely would've been more beneficial if I had claimed. But seeing as I didn't, that just means we need to work even harder to win the game.
QuoteIt's not possible ness is the seer- they would have seered me last night and know that pushing this lynch ends the game.
What even is this argument? I had seered you last night, and you were red. A lynch against you won't end the game unless Haruhi was also a wolf, but I don't really see that as being the case. If anything, I think Pikachu is probably the other wolf because you won't stop sticking up for them, saying they're the only ones who are "100% human". Obviously, if that's the case, I'll probably be wolfed tonight and not be able to get a seer result on them, but at least we can get rid of one wolf for now. Seriously, you need to work on not going bat-shit crazy when someone's calling you out.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 15, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
Looks like some things have happened since I've been here last. Not 100% up to speed yet, but obviously (from my perspective) Ness is a wolf. If we get lynched, you all better hope we got lucky with Haruhi. Seriously, Ness not claiming to Samus asap is more than just a "whoops, I messed up this one thing" move; it was a residual thing. They either actively chose to not contact them (this is day 2, folks) or the more believable thing is that they're just making it up.

-The other WAH
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 15, 2018, 06:22:35 PM
Talked it over with my other head and we're voting TWG Waluigi. It all comes down to Ness. The only way Ness couldn't be the seer is if Link was the seer and Haruhi was the green check and Link told the wrong person on the first phase. I just can't see it any other way. We've voting for Wah and that's not going to change.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 15, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
If ness is the seer, we win right here. Samus is green, Ness is seer, and there is no way in hell Waluigi and Luigi are partners, which leaves Haruhi as his only possible partner. If Ness correctly guessed that both the green check and seer are dead, then we probably deserve to lose anyways.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 15, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
TWG Waluigi
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 15, 2018, 06:54:18 PM
TWG Luigi
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Ness on March 15, 2018, 06:56:03 PM
TWG Waluigi
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 15, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
that's enough.  TWG ness is a wolf and if you think otherwise you're bad
don't screw this up, yall are terrible
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 15, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
chill
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Waluigi on March 15, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
the game is about to end and nobody cares but me
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 15, 2018, 08:07:32 PM
Yes, statistically humans are most likely to win this phase and the game will end. If the wolves win, then they got really fucking lucky and there's not much we can do about it.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 15, 2018, 08:39:35 PM
TWG Waluigi
Let's just get this over with.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 15, 2018, 09:23:05 PM
TWG 101: Hydradoodle
A Hydra game

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Seer
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human

Seer gets a random green check when the game starts

For those of you unaware with hydra games, it's played with mystery accounts and two players share a single account.  Either player can post or do anything without the permission of the other players, but it gives you a second head to talk to.  You can do things like put an experienced player with a less experienced player or just completely randomize it.  This setup is prone to good RNG, like if the seer hits the wolf N1 or the wolf hits the seer N1, but it ought to be a quick fun game.  After how long 100 lasted I think a shorter one would be fun.

Players:

1. TWG Luigi
2. TWG Ness
3. TWG Link
4. TWG Pikachu
5. TWG Samus
6. TWG Waluigi
7. TWG Haruhi Suzumiya



TWG Waluigi was Lynched With an insta. It is now Night 2.  Night 2 ends in roughly 22 hours at regular time. That's around 9:00 CST
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 15, 2018, 10:41:54 PM
well shit
either ness is a lone last wolf or we lost
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 08:11:43 AM
why don't you think it's possible im the last wolf
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 01:03:40 PM
Good point, never considered you + Haruhi. Unless we already hit parity and it's you + Ness.

Regardless, we'll find out tomorrow. If you're the wolf, humans win, because Ness will seer me green. If Ness is the wolf, wolves win, because he'll say I'm red and not much you can do when all the counterclaims died in the first two phases.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
what makes you think you're the seering target and not me?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 02:16:41 PM
Quote from: TWG Ness on March 15, 2018, 05:39:24 PMIf anything, I think Pikachu is probably the other wolf because you won't stop sticking up for them, saying they're the only ones who are "100% human". Obviously, if that's the case, I'll probably be wolfed tonight and not be able to get a seer result on them, but at least we can get rid of one wolf for now.

Im going to hokd my thoughts till day phase though. I think Ive said too much already.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Someone seems awfully paranoid...
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 16, 2018, 03:04:30 PM
Tick
Tock
Tick
Tock

Phase Ends in 4 hours
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 06:41:26 PM
Ok, so juicy pre-end-of-phase revelation time! I (we?) TWG Luigi, was actually Ness's green claim! They didn't want to claim that in the thread because they knew that if they claimed us as their green check that would look incredibly wolfy! So ya. That's ittttttttt thought you should know k bye~~~
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 06:52:46 PM
ness get in here and back us up so we dont need to post all our pms
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 06:57:21 PM
yes ness please show up like right now pls
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 06:58:43 PM
ness bby u said u would be here
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 16, 2018, 07:00:45 PM
TWG 101: Hydradoodle
A Hydra game

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Seer
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human

Seer gets a random green check when the game starts

For those of you unaware with hydra games, it's played with mystery accounts and two players share a single account.  Either player can post or do anything without the permission of the other players, but it gives you a second head to talk to.  You can do things like put an experienced player with a less experienced player or just completely randomize it.  This setup is prone to good RNG, like if the seer hits the wolf N1 or the wolf hits the seer N1, but it ought to be a quick fun game.  After how long 100 lasted I think a shorter one would be fun.

Players:

1. TWG Luigi
2. TWG Ness
3. TWG Link
4. TWG Pikachu
5. TWG Samus
6. TWG Waluigi
7. TWG Haruhi Suzumiya



TWG Ness was Wolfed. It is now Day 3.  Day 3 ends in roughly 48 hours
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 07:40:37 PM
reminder not to cast a vote on anyone until we can agree who
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 16, 2018, 08:21:25 PM
Agreed, no votes until discussion has run its course. I am currently going back through the thread and analyzing posts with the information you just disclosed in mind, and I'll share my thoughts after that.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 08:28:03 PM
Also for us and ness pms

first heres what my inbox looks like:

Replied To   March 14, 2018, 11:32:30 PM   Green Check   TWG Ness   
Read   March 15, 2018, 03:22:24 AM   Re: Green Check   TWG Ness   
Replied To   March 15, 2018, 06:30:43 AM   Re: Green Check   TWG Ness   
Read   March 15, 2018, 07:52:09 PM   Re: Green Check   TWG Ness   
Replied To   March 15, 2018, 08:54:49 PM   Re: Green Check   TWG Ness   
Read   Today at 06:25:49 AM   Re: Green Check   TWG Ness   
Replied To   Today at 11:11:33 AM   Re: Green Check   TWG Ness

and then here's some pm's:
quote author=TWG Ness link=action=profile;u=3625 date=1521088350]
I lied on the thread. You're actually my green check, but if I said that, Waluigi definitely could easily get me lynched because I already seem suspicious. He really was a red check, though. I just hope Samus doesn't turn out to be a wolf cause that'll be hard to explain in the future.
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Quote from: TWG Ness on March 15, 2018, 01:22:24 AMNot claiming to you was a brain fart on my part. While I realised that green checks were confirmed humans this game (due to the lack of master wolves) I didn't realise that also meant they should be part of the alliance (due to being confirmed). I very strongly disagree with my partners decision to fake our green check and I think our best course of action is to withdraw that claim and claim our actual green check, but I would like to hear your opinion about that.

Quote from: TWG Ness on March 15, 2018, 04:30:43 AMSorry, I have no idea what I'm doing and my experienced partner has been purposefully inactive to get wolves to not wolf us night 1.

Quote from: TWG Ness on March 15, 2018, 05:52:09 PMI'm a bit worried about this night phase. If the other wolf is still alive and smart, they might wolf someone else to make people even more suspicious of me. I hope that doesn't happen. Don't think I've ever wanted to be wolfed before now. I wish this game had roleflips.

Quote from: TWG Ness on March 15, 2018, 06:54:49 PMI made a grave mistake lying about Samus being our green check. I can't see Haruhi being the other wolf, which means that if the game doesn't end at a Waluigi lynch, then Samus is the only other option because Pikachu actually seems human to me now. I don't think a wolf would vote for their partner when there's still enough doubt to get people to vote for someone else.

Quote from: TWG Ness on March 16, 2018, 04:25:49 AMYeah, you should do that. If people question you, I can confirm before I get wolfed.

Quote from: TWG Ness on March 16, 2018, 09:11:33 AMI think claiming to the topic is definately the thing to go for, but just right before the phase updates. Not wolfing us is the worst choice that the wolf could make since it gives us perfect knowledge of the remaining roles, and by not claiming until the last possible seccond, they might just make that choice.

I have not messaged Samus, since I didn't see a reason to do that. He is supposed to be confirmed in the topic so there was no need to contact him privately. Contacting him privately right now will just ammount to raising his suspicions.

In other news, I just send in my seering on Pikachu

theres all the received ones, i could send you sent ones as well but i feel like this is hopefully enough lol
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 08:30:21 PM
its really late now and im going to sleep but i'll be thinking about who to vote and i'll re read the topic with a fresh mind tomorrow, and hopefully maybe there's something from samus and pikachu i can see by tomorrow lol
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 09:01:41 PM
Alright, TWG Samus being the green check was really messing with my head because it would of meant Waluigi and Luigi were partners. This means Samus is the wolf, so I suppose my job now is to convince luigi that. Honestly, Samus hasn't done anything too sus so wp, but I'll read through the thread.

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 02:23:10 PMSomeone seems awfully paranoid...

In my original post of the night phase, I totally forgot that someone was gonna die. When I realized that, I was about to completely change my line of logic and talking about Ness being confirmed based on whether or not he gets wolfed. Then I realized correcting myself might give senior wolf the idea of framing Ness by leaving him alive, and I really did not want to deal with those kind of mind games. I honestly enjoy the turn of events right now because It's so much simpler.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
^Maroon Pikachu btw
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 09:26:09 PM
Ok, woah, wait a hot second here. Waluigi is a confirmed wolf, yes? Samus:
1. Immediately voted Waluigi after Luigi d1.
2. Insta'd him day 3.

There's some talent behind that account. Anyways, here's what I could get:

1. Despite Samus constantly putting pressure on Waluigi, not once did Waluigi respond or even adress him. All of Waluigi's rage was focused at Luigi. This is pretty strong evidence for partnership, but by no fault of Samus.
2. Since I was the only one this entire game vouching for Waluigi's humanity, when I was the first person to vote him day 2 his lynch was pretty much inevitable. Therefore, the insta doesn't really mean too much.

Quote from: TWG Samus on March 16, 2018, 08:21:25 PMAgreed, no votes until discussion has run its course. I am currently going back through the thread and analyzing posts with the information you just disclosed in mind, and I'll share my thoughts after that.

This is the only thing they ever said that I find suspicous. When luigi said he was the green check, a human Samus should of instantly though "yo, that means Pikachu is a wolf."
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gtg maybe will finish later?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 16, 2018, 10:00:37 PM
I've been talking it over with my other head, and at this point we really don't have any reason to think that Pikachu isn't the remaining wolf. Here's what we've found:
- Pikachu emphasized communication between heads right at the start of the game. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but he then went on to establish that communication between heads is more helpful to wolves and specials than anyone else, while it still
"isn't to say it's not something town should try to do or that suggesting everyone try and get in communication is suspicious behavior" (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395848#msg395848). His original post seems like a nudge at his wolf partner, disguised as a helpful hint for the humans, while posting conflicting opinions in the next post seems like backpedaling to cover over himself.
- Pikachu spent a large amount of time during the game defending Waluigi under the pretense that "no wolf would act so controversially so early in the game." (
[Post] (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395881#msg395881)[Post] (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395931#msg395931)[Post] (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395955#msg395955)) Generalizing how a wolf will play is a shaky move, and no player is guaranteed to play any role a certain way. This feels like a cover for Waluigi's antics to try and draw attention away from him and towards inactive players, who Pikachu argues could potentially be wolves, but are also incredibly likely to be the seer.
- Pikachu only changed his suspicions to Waluigi after Luigi called him out for his defense, and doubled down when Ness claimed and revealed his red seering. On top of that, he invoked the strategy Charu proposed during the last game, where an uncontested seering must be trusted. When the two players who had died so far were mostly inactive, which is a strategy a seer would be wise to adhere to, as Ness stated in the PM's ("my experienced partner has been purposefully inactive to get wolves to not wolf us night 1"), there was really no reason to believe Ness had to be the seer when there was possibility that the seer might already be dead. This looks like an attempt to encourage people to focus on Waluigi and away from Pikachu's earlier defense of him.

In response to the above post:
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 09:26:09 PM
This is the only thing they ever said that I find suspicous. When luigi said he was the green check, a human Samus should of instantly though "yo, that means Pikachu is a wolf."

I mean, yeah, that is what we instantly thought. But with Luigi dropping a lot of information all at once there was a lot we needed to recontextualize and put together based on the new information we had. That's what you see above.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:32:27 PM
Alright, post time. For reference, it was the other head who was defending waluigi in phase 1. I'm the one who posted the list of 4 possible outcomes for Ness' humanity. It's probably been said before, but lemme just put out my argument so nothing is missed and because that's how I do this.
First of all, Ness getting wolfed confirms his humanity 100%. This means that Waluigi was a wolf, and that haruhi was a poorly played human. Now that luigi is a confirmed human, it's down to either Samus or me as the wolf.
Reasons for Samus:
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Quote from: TWG Samus on March 15, 2018, 10:18:53 AMI'm not convinced Ness is just a seer who is playing badly. Seering Waluigi red is absolutely the safest possible false seering someone could make, aside from seering Luigi green, but no good seer would seer Luigi night 1 after Waluigi's antics and Luigi's...well, non-antics. Secondly, yes it's possible that Ness just forgot to contact me, but that's less possible given that he almost got lynched day 1. In fact, he would have been lynched if that one vote had been properly counted. Whose vote was that again? Right, the human he supposedly had a green check for. Don't you think he would have made some attempt to message me after I voted to say "wait, don't vote for me, I'm the seer and I saw you green, let's talk"? Or even during the night phase to say "you almost got me killed, let's make sure that doesn't happen again." As it stands, Ness is playing things way too close to the chest and way too risky if he really is the seer, which I don't believe he is.

That being said, Waluigi is definitely the safest lynch to go for today, so I'm still completely willing to lynch him first if that's the decision we come to. However, keep Ness at the front of your mind.
Looking through the thread, this is the biggest well-played wolf tell. It goes out of it's way to smear the negative opinion on waluigi, but then goes along with it in the end. Also note that Samus was the last vote for waluigi while we were the first.

Reasons against me us:
QuoteI've been talking it over with my other head, and at this point we really don't have any reason to think that Pikachu isn't the remaining wolf. Here's what we've found:
Tbh this is the softest wolf call-out I've ever seen. Samus has been consistently avoiding direct statements like "X is a wolf and here's why" or "Ness isn't the seer and here's why." This may not mean everything in the long run, but it certainly feels wolf-ish.
Quote- Pikachu emphasized communication between heads right at the start of the game. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but he then went on to establish that communication between heads is more helpful to wolves and specials than anyone else, while it still "isn't to say it's not something town should try to do or that suggesting everyone try and get in communication is suspicious behavior". His original post seems like a nudge at his wolf partner, disguised as a helpful hint for the humans, while posting conflicting opinions in the next post seems like backpedaling to cover over himself.
I think this is grasping at straws? At this point I had no clue who my partner was as they didn't post until pg 4. I didn't realize that the PM sent to us had the recipients in it. And why is this wolfish? What makes communication between heads so much more helpful for wolves than humans that one or two posts about it trying to sent my other head a hint pegs me as a wolf? I don't get this argument at all.

I think this post makes sense but it probably doesn't. Feel free to poke holes in my logic or something and I'll answer questions as best I can.

Halfway through writing this post I found out my other head was responding as well so we split up the response to Samus


Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:40:06 PM
Well for one, I never changed my suspicion until ness claimed wah was red. You seem to forget that if Ness wasn't the seer, there was a green check that could also counter claim. That would of meant both of them were the only two dead players, and the likelyhood of that is what made me change my suspicion. My partner was already on board with a wah lynch since d1, so it went through pretty easily.

Also that is a really dumb wolf plan you seem to be accusing me of? Getting my partner lynched in a LYLO phase to so I can use it as evidence to dig myself out of the bad situation I put myself in d3 by lynching him in the first place?

If I was a wolf, I would of known Ness was the real seer and could of taken advantage of everyone's ambivalance to try and get ness lynched. This would been very doable, given how everyone else was publically walking the line.

QuoteIn response to the above post:I mean, yeah, that is what we instantly thought. But with Luigi dropping a lot of information all at once there was a lot we needed to recontextualize and put together based on the new information we had. That's what you see above.

There's not much to recontextualize. It's nothing more than you being needlessly cautious to try and look human. He's confirmed human, I'm human, that means he's wolf - there's absolutely no reason for a human to play passive at that point.

Also you defending purple samus here instead of waiting for him to answer is awfully scummy.

"Hey, dude, I want to recontexualize this stuff before saying anything."
"Yeah me too dude"
"Alright, we'll make a post about how we want to read the thread before mentioning pikas name."

That's not the kind of post your partner would tell you their reasoning for making.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 11:00:39 PM
My head (heads?) hurts. You two (four?) uh, go 'head and... uh, argue it out, and we'll try and sort through the mess and hope we don't make the wrong decision.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 11:02:49 PM
Summary because information can get easily lost in text wall back and forths. Red = big tell, orange = moderate tell.

Reasons against samus:
-Although Samus did a very good job of distancing from Waluigi, Waluigi did not. Despite Samus' multiple attacks on Waluigi, he did not respond to a single one of them or publically interact with samus in anyway.
-During the day 2 lynch, he was applying pressure to a Ness lynch whilst subtly defending waluigi. Waited until the lynch was set in stone before voting.
-Has played this phase very passively, which is unusualy behavior for a human who should immediately know who the wolf is.
-The two samus heads have been constantly playing as a single entity rather than two seperate wolf hunting entities. Even so far as too defend the logic of the other head.

Reasons against us, with a response:
-Pikachu has been defending Waluigi all game.
       +One of us has, the other has not.  You know how Waluigi has been avoiding interacting with Samus, that's what someone who doesn't know how to distance does. They don't create
         painfully obvious partnerships.
-Pikachu contradicted himself about differentiating heads.
       +Well, as my other head pointed out, there wasn't anything wolfy about that in the first place? Second, the contradiction is two seperate heads posting seperate opinions.
-Pikachu started the Waluigi bandwagon to look more human.
       +This would of just been a dumb idea considering how possible a Ness lynch was (snice no one thought about green check counter claims, apperantly?)

I think that's everything?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 16, 2018, 11:08:26 PM
Would you be able to include links to any specific posts that jump out to you please? Inevitably, both of us are going to (or should; technically I can't *make* anyone do anything) read over the whole game taking your arguments into account, but for a summary, links to the posts that exemplify what you're talking about would be nice.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 11:19:55 PM
-not sure how to provide quotes for the first point since its referencing every single one of waluigi's posts
-point 2 see blue pikas post
-point 3 see my first post this phase
-point 4 is pretty much everything samus has said, but the same quote for point 3 is a pertinent example of them acting as one unit of thought.

I've been procrastinating homework long enough, but if you want more meat on any of these I'll be happy to oblige.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 01:45:12 AM
Well goodness, looks like thinking I could go to bed tonight was a mistake. Let's break this down, shall we?
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:32:27 PMI think this is grasping at straws? At this point I had no clue who my partner was as they didn't post until pg 4. I didn't realize that the PM sent to us had the recipients in it.
I have to be blunt here and say that there is really no excuse for this. I was able to see immediately who my partner was based on my PM, and taking so long for either of you to make a connection is baffling.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:32:27 PMAnd why is this wolfish? What makes communication between heads so much more helpful for wolves than humans that one or two posts about it trying to sent my other head a hint pegs me as a wolf? I don't get this argument at all.
It's less that you made a few posts about it and more about the content of this post (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395848#msg395848) in particular. You intially reminded everyone to check their PM's, but then agreed that communication between heads is better for wolves, but then said it's not inherently suspicious anyway. It seems like you're simultaneously arguing that communication is both suspicious and not suspicious. Admittedly, this is my weakest argument, but it's worth taking into consideration.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:40:06 PMWell for one, I never changed my suspicion until ness claimed wah was red. You seem to forget that if Ness wasn't the seer, there was a green check that could also counter claim. That would of meant both of them were the only two dead players, and the likelyhood of that is what made me change my suspicion.
Ness admitted himself that he forgot that having a green check meant he could set up an alliance. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that a potentially different seer could have also forgotten to claim to their human, who then wouldn't know to counterclaim a false seer. Ness's claims were still incredibly safe ones; jumping from defending Waluigi as soon as Ness posted seems too safe.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:40:06 PMMy partner was already on board with a wah lynch since d1, so it went through pretty easily.
Given that you spent all of day one arguing against a Waluigi lynch, it would have been nice for your partner to make this apparent then, or for you to say something about your partner's opinion then.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:40:06 PMAlso that is a really dumb wolf plan you seem to be accusing me of? Getting my partner lynched in a LYLO phase to so I can use it as evidence to dig myself out of the bad situation I put myself in d3 by lynching him in the first place?
Waluigi was on everybody's lynch list day 2. When you've spent all of day 1 saying his lynch is a bad idea, turning your vote around day 2 would be the best way to distance yourself from him. Since you voted first, that means you could show your distrust of Waluigi without making it too close to actually killing him. Taking the vote off after everybody agreed to lynch him would've looked way too suspicious.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:40:06 PMIf I was a wolf, I would of known Ness was the real seer and could of taken advantage of everyone's ambivalance to try and get ness lynched. This would been very doable, given how everyone else was publically walking the line.
Like I said during my analysis of Ness's claim, Waluigi was the safest, most-likely-to-be-a-wolf lynch for day 2. Even with the uncertainty surrounding Ness, there was general certainty around Waluigi, which would be very hard to sway.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:40:06 PMThere's not much to recontextualize. It's nothing more than you being needlessly cautious to try and look human. He's confirmed human, I'm human, that means he's wolf - there's absolutely no reason for a human to play passive at that point.
Purple made that post on his own, I wasn't able to be here until a couple hours after phase change. We'd been operating on the assumption that Ness was a wolf and he didn't want to make any moves until I was aware of the situation. Purple's a little shy but he was watching the discussion, so he posted to indicate he was active. I would definitely have encouraged an aggressive start, and that's what my long post was for.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 10:40:06 PMAlso you defending purple samus here instead of waiting for him to answer is awfully scummy.
I wasn't "waiting for him to answer." He read through the thread while I was unavailable and then messaged me about it when I got on. The post I made was a consolidation of our resulting discussion. We're going into the final day phase, we wanted a strong post against you to lead with.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 11:02:49 PMReasons against us, with a response:
-Pikachu has been defending Waluigi all game.
       +One of us has, the other has not.
You keep saying this. Where was blue head day 1 to say this? There was ample time to acknowledge a disagreement between you two.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 11:02:49 PMYou know how Waluigi has been avoiding interacting with Samus, that's what someone who doesn't know how to distance does. They don't create painfully obvious partnerships.
I think we all have a pretty good idea who the most vocal Waluigi head was in reality. The player I'm thinking of seems to really enjoy doing his own thing and not addressing the claims against him in favor of loudly proclaiming that he's right and you're all stupid. I don't think there's anyone he reacted to positively in any way, except you, notably.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 11:02:49 PM-Pikachu contradicted himself about differentiating heads.
       +Well, as my other head pointed out, there wasn't anything wolfy about that in the first place? Second, the contradiction is two seperate heads posting seperate opinions.
Again, this was my weakest argument, so I won't press on it much. But it would have been nice to acknowledge that the contradiction was the result of separate heads, especially when you claim that blue head was for a Waluigi lynch since day 1 but there's no evidence of that in topic.
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 16, 2018, 11:02:49 PM-Pikachu started the Waluigi bandwagon to look more human.
       +This would of just been a dumb idea considering how possible a Ness lynch was (snice no one thought about green check counter claims, apperantly?)
And I already addressed this one above.

FOR LUIGI:
Point 1: Pikachu seems to contradict himself about whether inter-head coordination is suspicious (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395848#msg395848)
Point 2: Pikachu defends Waluigi all of (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395881#msg395881) day 1 because no wolf would (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395931#msg395931) be this bold on day 1 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395955#msg395955) (three separate links)
Point 3: Pikachu stops defending Waluigi completely once Ness claims seer and emphasizes that Ness has to be believed if he goes uncontested (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg396055#msg396055)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 02:56:19 AM
QuoteNess admitted himself that he forgot that having a green check meant he could set up an alliance. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that a potentially different seer could have also forgotten to claim to their human, who then wouldn't know to counterclaim a false seer. Ness's claims were still incredibly safe ones; jumping from defending Waluigi as soon as Ness posted seems too safe.
QuoteWaluigi was on everybody's lynch list day 2. When you've spent all of day 1 saying his lynch is a bad idea, turning your vote around day 2 would be the best way to distance yourself from him. Since you voted first, that means you could show your distrust of Waluigi without making it too close to actually killing him. Taking the vote off after everybody agreed to lynch him would've looked way too suspicious.

Alrighty, I think you've made a slip and we've got a checkmate. You claim:

Quote 1: This is you trying to justify you deflecting suspicion onto Ness while trying to avoiding buddying with Waluigi (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg396069#msg396069) by making it look like being Ness' error made him look extremely wolfy and your suspicion was not an unfounded attempt to save your partner.

Quote 2: You say this to as a point to make me look like a wolf... but hey! Look what you said in point one, Ness was a suspicios dude and therefore a viable lynch target! Ooooh, I also aready had the precedent of thinking Waluigi was human, and thinking Ness was the last wolf. But wait, there's more - if I lynch Ness that phase, I win the game! You know what would of been a great move, trying to get Ness lynched. But you know what I did instead? I brought up a point no one had said yet trying to confirms Ness' humanity to start a waluigi lynch so that way no one will think I could possibly be his partner! The best part is that people are so suspicios of Ness that they'll lynch him anyways and my partner won't die so I guess nothing I did mattered anyways! Ahuhuhuhu~excuse my sarcasm

Obviously our move greatly helped the humans (also admittedly our only good move this game), so which is it? Was Ness a viable lynch target I could of pushed for or were you wrong to try and throw shade on him? Or maybe I'm just stupid and distancing was totally the best move in that situation, but that's for luigi to decide.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 05:17:53 AM
woo this is juicy stuff

i haven't read all of it, but I will do when I finish work and make my comments and questions and stuff. And then after a thorough discussion with my luigi partner we will come to a decision... at some point over the next like 30 hours.

but could you guys just vote each other so when we make our decision it's all dramatic and game ending and we don't give the wolf the satisfaction of wolf rushing for the insta looool
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 05:18:39 AM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 05:17:53 AM and we don't give the wolf the satisfaction of wolf rushing for the insta looool
that is if we make the wrong decision...
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 07:29:17 AM
Pika's most recent post
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 02:56:19 AMAlrighty, I think you've made a slip and we've got a checkmate. You claim:

Quote 1: This is you trying to justify you deflecting suspicion onto Ness while trying to avoiding buddying with Waluigi (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg396069#msg396069) by making it look like being Ness' error made him look extremely wolfy and your suspicion was not an unfounded attempt to save your partner.

Quote 2: You say this to as a point to make me look like a wolf... but hey! Look what you said in point one, Ness was a suspicios dude and therefore a viable lynch target! Ooooh, I also aready had the precedent of thinking Waluigi was human, and thinking Ness was the last wolf. But wait, there's more - if I lynch Ness that phase, I win the game! You know what would of been a great move, trying to get Ness lynched. But you know what I did instead? I brought up a point no one had said yet trying to confirms Ness' humanity to start a waluigi lynch so that way no one will think I could possibly be his partner! The best part is that people are so suspicios of Ness that they'll lynch him anyways and my partner won't die so I guess nothing I did mattered anyways! Ahuhuhuhu~excuse my sarcasm

Obviously our move greatly helped the humans (also admittedly our only good move this game), so which is it? Was Ness a viable lynch target I could of pushed for or were you wrong to try and throw shade on him? Or maybe I'm just stupid and distancing was totally the best move in that situation, but that's for luigi to decide.
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Seeing as I am running on very little sleep, forgive the denseness in my response. I am sincerely attempting to understand your second point, but it is quite the source of confusion. Could you perhaps explain it without the sarcasm so I may comprehend? Also do bear in mind that the post you linked to in your first point is merely stating and explaining suspicion of Ness, while simultaneously expressing our support for the lynching of the wolf, Waluigi. We were suspicious of both, however, seeing as we're playing in the human interest, we supported the lynch that was most sensible. Although not quite the same, this situation is compared to that of your own early on, when you made known your suspicions of both Haruhi and Ness, claiming you did not care which one died in the day one lynch. While we did care who died (Waluigi), we were openly making our case against the other, as Ness (and Waluigi early on in the game especially) made the case against Waluigi. As such, there was no need to make a post of rivalling length against Waluigi compared to our Ness claim, as it would only have been redundant and rather pointless.

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 05:17:53 AMwoo this is juicy stuff

i haven't read all of it, but I will do when I finish work and make my comments and questions and stuff. And then after a thorough discussion with my luigi partner we will come to a decision... at some point over the next like 30 hours.

but could you guys just vote each other so when we make our decision it's all dramatic and game ending and we don't give the wolf the satisfaction of wolf rushing for the insta looool
With reference to the bold, that is quite the timeframe you have given! But I await your response (and the same with you, Pikachu)! With reference to the underlined, ahhh, it seems as someone wants all the glory! Heh... but in all seriousness, do you want us to vote for each other immediately or wait for a final decision to be made?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 09:42:54 AM
 well idk how long we'll take, and time zones could mess with communication, if we disagree it'll take longer I guess


And well I mean I guess your votes aren't going to change so I don't see why you shouldn't just vote now lol
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
i originally said not to vote just in case you were unsure about believing us as the green claim but no one seems to question it, and it's not like I'm gonna wolf rush the vote so
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 10:39:09 AM
Works okay for me. TWG Pikachu, and I'm expecting him to do the same.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 10:57:13 AM
Fair enough. Sorry for not posting. I suggested this to my other head, but he turned it down and said samus and our votes are kinda meaningless because luigi's the only one that matters.
Anyhoo, Samus

(is that bold enough for you, brainy)
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 11:29:33 AM
hey pikachu, who do you think any of the two waluigi players really were?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 11:35:30 AM
Completely honest, I suck at guessing who is who in mystery games. I got nothing. I'd probably guess someone inexperienced because they played pretty badly. Not as badly as haruhi, though.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 11:57:27 AM
pika, why are you only just now making your posts different based on the player posting them
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 02:16:59 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 11:29:33 AMhey pikachu, who do you think any of the two waluigi players really were?

We´re not allowed to publically say who they are (?) but I will say I knew exactly who the wah waluigi was when the salt shaker meme came through. Anyways, it's not important because it's irrelevant to the point that he was constantly berating you whilst completely ignoring samus. It's a pretty dead giveaway.

Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 11:57:27 AMpika, why are you only just now making your posts different based on the player posting them

I started on page 8:

QuoteI suppose I'll post in this color, but I think distinguishing between the two heads ruins what makes this game fun and unique. Without the ambiguity of combined accounts, it's mostly just a regular TWG (with the bonus of inactivty reading! Yay....)

I also didn't think the benefit to humans was minimal and not some huge "we must implement this strategy to win!" I'm a bit more serious doing this phase than the previous phase so our individual heads can respond seperately and clearly.

If I were to wrap up my argument:
1. Read through day two and our argument today about it. Remember, this phase was a potential LYLO.
2. My two heads behaved as seperate people with seperate opinions, samus is acting as one unit (humans want their individual voices heard, wolves don't care and may think trying to avoiding contradicting eachother makes them look more human?) Hell, they refer to literally everything they've ever done with "we", not "I."
3. The difference in the way Waluigi treated you and Samus for doing very similar things.

Quote from: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 07:29:17 AM
Pika's most recent post
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Seeing as I am running on very little sleep, forgive the denseness in my response. I am sincerely attempting to understand your second point, but it is quite the source of confusion. Could you perhaps explain it without the sarcasm so I may comprehend? Also do bear in mind that the post you linked to in your first point is merely stating and explaining suspicion of Ness, while simultaneously expressing our support for the lynching of the wolf, Waluigi. We were suspicious of both, however, seeing as we're playing in the human interest, we supported the lynch that was most sensible. Although not quite the same, this situation is compared to that of your own early on, when you made known your suspicions of both Haruhi and Ness, claiming you did not care which one died in the day one lynch. While we did care who died (Waluigi), we were openly making our case against the other, as Ness (and Waluigi early on in the game especially) made the case against Waluigi. As such, there was no need to make a post of rivalling length against Waluigi compared to our Ness claim, as it would only have been redundant and rather pointless.

Us voting Waluigi is the worst thing a wolf pikachu could of done that phase. You're accusing me of misplay claiming it was an obvious wolf move, and that makes no sense. Sure, if Ness was practically unlynchable, it could of been my way distancing myself from him before his inevitable defense. However, to defend yourself about that iffy d2 post, you inadvertantely pointed out that Ness was indeed lynchable.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 02:18:46 PM
^replace defense with death in that last sentence
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 17, 2018, 03:17:44 PM
I said you could speculate who they might have been. This means you can share your thoughts on who was who, but i digress
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 03:21:48 PM
Oh, well Waluigi was Olimar ezpz
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 03:23:58 PM
thats not what i thought lol
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
That's not at all what I thought either.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: FireArrow on March 17, 2018, 03:57:23 PM
..
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
ok so my problem is i don't think pikachu would be defending and agreeing with waluigi so much if they were wolf buds, and I don't think waluigi would say pikachu is 'the only one with a head'
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
what samus made this post?


Quote from: TWG Samus on March 12, 2018, 09:51:13 AMWaluigi, you seem simultaneously apathetic and jumpy to me. You're anxious for the night phase and think this phase doesn't matter much (but it should, since we need to coordinate before the wolves have a chance to start putting a dent in the human numbers), and yet you accuse Link of wolf-like behavior simply for trying to coordinate with his head. That doesn't make any sense; what part of coordinating with your other head is a bad thing?

Luigi, about this:It seems like here you're suggesting that it doesn't matter whether heads identify themselves or not; people will still be able to figure out to a general degree who other people are. So, would you still rather have heads be identified?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
That would be me.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 05:49:08 PM
Which Pikachu made this post?

Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 12:42:03 PMWaluigi is has a point. Coordinating with your other head is a lot more important for wolves than humans. That isn't to say it's not something town should try to do or that suggesting everyone try and get in communication is suspicious behavior, so I don't believe we should be pointing figners at Waluigi this early.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:04:18 PM
Same here.

Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 13, 2018, 02:26:02 PMI'm leaning Haruhi or Ness. I still do not believe a wolf would want to come in like a wrecking ball day one.

If anything, this new game style would promote wolves to be more inactive, for exactly the reason Waluigi is putting on display here. When you're sharing a body with someone, you're less likely to take risks.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 06:06:19 PM
blue if first, I'm second
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:11:28 PM
 and this one lol

Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 12, 2018, 04:54:57 PMI think a walugi lynch is a mistake. This is day one, any half decent wolf isn't going to give people a chance to read them. Ness is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm going to vote TWG Haruhi to get some posts from them.

Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:17:23 PM
Samus and Pikachu, when did you learn about cardflips being off?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:21:43 PM
Samus, why, when Ness said they seered you green, did you not contact them to discuss things?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:23:54 PM
 also this probably looks weird to everyone but me and other luigi are discussing a lot behind scenes and when we don't really need to convince other people to agree with us, and we are confirmed human, we don't have big long posts to make in topic lol
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 06:32:55 PM
Right here:
Quote from: TWG Waluigi on March 13, 2018, 06:15:40 AMin case you haven't heard, apparenlty theres no cardflips
Apparently this was originally made known in the Mafia Discord server a few hours before Waluigi posted.

Ninja'd:
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:21:43 PMSamus, why, when Ness said they seered you green, did you not contact them to discuss things?
Because he did not contact me at any point earlier. I would have expected the real seer to have set up the alliance by then (i.e., contacted me), especially after you posted in the topic night 1 reminding the Seer to set up the alliance if they haven't already. If he really was the seer (which we know he was now, but there was uncertainty at the time), the ball was in his court to set up that communication effort, and claiming that we had been his green check without telling us was all kinds of strange. Here's a link (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg396069#msg396069) to the post where I established that Ness had plenty of time to contact me, and had every reason to do so after almost getting lynched day 1. I don't like setting up private contact with potential wolves.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 06:34:23 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:11:28 PM and this one lol

Me. I think I learned about card flips when people were talking about it day 1 but I honestly don't remember.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:38:58 PM
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 06:32:55 PMRight here:Apparently this was originally made known in the Mafia Discord server a few hours before Waluigi posted.

Ninja'd:Because he did not contact me at any point earlier. I would have expected the real seer to have set up the alliance by then (i.e., contacted me), especially after you posted in the topic night 1 reminding the Seer to set up the alliance if they haven't already. If he really was the seer (which we know he was now, but there was uncertainty at the time), the ball was in his court to set up that communication effort, and claiming that we had been his green check without telling us was all kinds of strange. Here's a link (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg396069#msg396069) to the post where I established that Ness had plenty of time to contact me, and had every reason to do so after almost getting lynched day 1. I don't like setting up private contact with potential wolves.
Did you not believe that after day 2, when the game didn't end after the Waluigi wolfing, that Ness was confirmed seer?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:41:06 PM
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 06:34:23 PMMe. I think I learned about card flips when people were talking about it day 1 but I honestly don't remember.

Okay, so out of the entire game, the two players to stick up for waluigi (as we can see from those posts, you both made posts siding with waluigi), were both behind the account of Pikachu. Do you have any comments to make on that
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 07:28:39 PM
We are currently thinking about lynching Pikachu, but we're still discussing a few things
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 09:26:44 PM
Everyone alive right now besides you has defended Waluigi at some point, although my other never talked highly about him in private discussions. This is starting to really stress me out so I'll just leave you with this and be done.

Samus defended Waluigi in an indirect way, I did so in a blatant way. Which method is a wolf is more likely to employ? Based on how I'm playing, do you think I'm the kind of player who would create an obvious public partnership with my wolf partner and then throw the game by lynching him day two? Is Waluigi more likely to not publically interact with his partner or publically call them the only sensible person in the game?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 10:27:51 PM
oh wait this (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395848#msg395848) post was mine not blue pikas sorry, was my first post of the game
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 10:38:42 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 17, 2018, 06:38:58 PMDid you not believe that after day 2, when the game didn't end after the Waluigi wolfing, that Ness was confirmed seer?
There was talk during day 2 (and even day 1) about how Haruhi/Ness was a strong possibility for wolf pairing. Since the game didn't end, and Ness and Waluigi were incompatible as partners, that left two possibilities: Haruhi was a human, or Waluigi was a human. We established during day 1 that Waluigi was potentially a bad human that the wolves could hide behind, and with Ness's claim seeming so scummy, it suddenly seemed possible that the wolf pair could actually be Haruhi/Ness. If that pairing hadn't been previously discussed, we would've had much more reason to trust Ness after the game continued. Obviously the chances of Waluigi being the wolf were higher, but there was so little information to glean from Haruhi's actions that it couldn't be ruled out.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 18, 2018, 09:31:24 AM
Sorry, was really busy last night from 7  to 3 so I missed all of this. Anyway,
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 17, 2018, 10:38:42 PMThere was talk during day 2 (and even day 1) about how Haruhi/Ness was a strong possibility for wolf pairing. Since the game didn't end, and Ness and Waluigi were incompatible as partners, that left two possibilities: Haruhi was a human, or Waluigi was a human. We established during day 1 that Waluigi was potentially a bad human that the wolves could hide behind, and with Ness's claim seeming so scummy, it suddenly seemed possible that the wolf pair could actually be Haruhi/Ness. If that pairing hadn't been previously discussed, we would've had much more reason to trust Ness after the game continued. Obviously the chances of Waluigi being the wolf were higher, but there was so little information to glean from Haruhi's actions that it couldn't be ruled out.
Actually, Ness+Haruhi was practically impossible the instant Ness claimed. There is only one way this could have happened: if Link was the seer and he didn't tell anyone about his green check, which is the exact same thing Ness appeared to do. The only logical thing that could have let Ness be a wolf is if either Haruhi was the green check and Link the seer, or the other way around. The only likely way for this to happen is for one of them to blab to a wolf, but I don't think either would be stupid enough. That's why I wrote my list of 4 possibilities. I never included Ness+Haruhi  because the chance of that was infinitely small. This is why we were the first to vote for waluigi.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 18, 2018, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 17, 2018, 10:27:51 PMoh wait this (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9911.msg395848#msg395848) post was mine not blue pikas sorry, was my first post of the game
That's really odd that you got mixed up on that, so did you and your partner not communicate on your thoughts on waluigi?
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 18, 2018, 04:03:29 PM
Quote from: TWG Luigi on March 18, 2018, 01:57:38 PMThat's really odd that you got mixed up on that, so did you and your partner not communicate on your thoughts on waluigi?

That was my first post and action of the game, so no? We did talk about waluigi soon there after.

I got it mixed up becuase I legitamently did not remember being a part of the talk between heads discussion, so because my partner and I just kind of post when we want to without consulting eachother first, I just assumed it was one of his posts I forgot about. My memory was jogged because I spent the entirety of yesterday really confused why he said that since when we first contacted eachtother (shortly after that post) the first thing he talked about was wanting to lynch waluigi.

Tbh, at the end of the day there's no excuse for forgetting my own posts so it's really just my bad. Sorry.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 18, 2018, 06:29:53 PM
TWG Pikachu

Here goes nothing...
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: BrainyLucario on March 18, 2018, 06:39:57 PM
TWG 101: Hydradoodle
A Hydra game

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Seer
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human

Seer gets a random green check when the game starts

For those of you unaware with hydra games, it's played with mystery accounts and two players share a single account.  Either player can post or do anything without the permission of the other players, but it gives you a second head to talk to.  You can do things like put an experienced player with a less experienced player or just completely randomize it.  This setup is prone to good RNG, like if the seer hits the wolf N1 or the wolf hits the seer N1, but it ought to be a quick fun game.  After how long 100 lasted I think a shorter one would be fun.

Players:

1. TWG Luigi
2. TWG Ness
3. TWG Link
4. TWG Pikachu
5. TWG Samus
6. TWG Waluigi
7. TWG Haruhi Suzumiya



TWG Pikachu was Lynched. Game over. WOLVES WIN
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Samus on March 18, 2018, 06:45:15 PM
Hehehehehehe...

Hahahahaha....


MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! YOU FOOLS! YOU ABSOLUTE FOOLS!! YOU LOSE!! ALL YOUR STRUGGLING, FOR NAUGHT! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: mikey on March 18, 2018, 06:48:14 PM
th-th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 18, 2018, 06:48:55 PM
Aww come on did ya'll really think wolf partners suck each others dicks day one.
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 18, 2018, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: TWG Samus on March 18, 2018, 06:45:15 PMHahahahaha....


hush dudeman
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 18, 2018, 06:49:57 PM
Quote from: TWG Pikachu on March 18, 2018, 06:48:55 PMAww come on did ya'll really think wolf partners suck each others dicks day one.

sorry firearrow
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Luigi on March 18, 2018, 06:50:17 PM
Quote from: mikey on March 18, 2018, 06:48:14 PMth-th-th-th-th-th-that's all folks

no real accounts allowed, waluigi
Title: Re: TWG CI: Hydradoodle
Post by: TWG Pikachu on March 18, 2018, 06:53:15 PM
how was I wrong about him being olimar