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Sorry for the wait! This looks great overall!

- You don't need the forward repeat bar at the beginning.
- Lower bass notes in m. 40/48 sound like they stay as Db instead of moving back down to C (they move in the next measure)
- Staccato placement in m. 53 where there are two layers
- I think the last RH note in m. 28 (pickup to the next phrase) is a Dn rather than Eb
- I think the dyads at the end of m. 32 and 34 would be better inverted downwards to maintain the upwards contour of those notes to the ones following them at the beginning of m. 33/35.
- m. 37 beat 4 RH should be an octave up to match the octave register of the following octave in the melodic line?
- The way the melody resolves to F in m. 6/10/18/22 suggest to me that the piece should be written in F rather than C up to m. 28. (Actually about that, I think maybe it would be better to withhold the key change to Ab until m. 37? Maybe not, looking at it again...)

Ottava Placement
Overall it looks alright, but a few things in particular:
- (not strictly necessary but) I tend to suggest using 8vb to denote an octave down just so there's no potential confusion
- That's quite a big jump between the end of m. 16 and the beginning of m. 17, might you want to lower m. 15-16 an octave, effectively extend the 8vb below what's already written?
- In contrast to the above, I'd recommend keeping the 8vb going through m. 23-24 but keeping the notes at the same pitch (so writing them an octave up similar to m. 11).
- The short one below m. 31 only probably isn't necessary; Ab isn't that far below the staff and it'd be perfectly readable without the 8va there.
- The right hands 8vas look good.

Yeah, there's definitely some buildup and release of tension in the original you can incorporate into the dynamics here! mf at the beginning is good. You might want to increase that to f at measure 13 or where the melody picks up at the end of 16 to differentiate the second iteration of this part from the beginning of the piece. There's also a noticeable decrease in energy in the m. 29+ section, so maybe an mp at the end of 28 where the melody pickup is. And lastly the piece builds up to its climax around m. 35-36, so you could use a crescendo there ending on f (or ff). Lastly, you'll probably want an mf (and maybe dim. before it) somewhere shortly after the last RH chord strike to return back to mf before the beginning of the loop.

Some notes in the Bass might be off, as I had trouble hearing them in some places
This is kind of a comment about the whole thing, but it sounds like the bass does a little flourish kind of thing on beat 4 of most measures. For the intro it sounds something like writing in an F on beat 4.25 in between the C and the G. Wondering if this was something you thought about? (I'm also fine with simplifying it as you have it written now.) If you're having trouble hearing the notes clearly, I'd suggest raising the music an octave and running the audio through something like AudioStretch.

Good job overall - clean and accurate :)

A few formatting things that I think you can do (potentially with Cacabish's tools) -
- D.C. should be bold
- Ending numbers should have dots (e.g. 1. 2.)
- Shouldn't be a double barline at the end of m. 30

Other things:
- There are a few places you have notes split up that are fine to write as dotted notes:
  - Dotted half in m. 10 and 14 beat 1 (a dotted half note on beat 1 is fine to pass through beat 3)
  - Dotted quarter in m. 21-23 and 32 beat 3 (dotted quarter on beat 3 is fine to pass through beat 4)
- Last two RH notes in m. 23 should go C-Bb instead of Bb-C
- LH should be Db instead of Gb in m. 32
- For the glissando in m. 8, be sure that the Eb it begins on isn't beamed to the previous group of notes. Also, the glissando should be notated as a way line instead of a straight one.
- For m. 8, either show the 5/4 time signature or split it up into a 4/4 measure and a 1/4 measure.

No worries, take your time! The sheet's looking pretty good, it's just a handful of small things that need adjusting.

2021 Week 25

Here's a replacement for one of the sheets on site that needs one most!

Pokémon HeartGold Version & Pokémon SoulSilver Version
NEW!   The Pokémon League[MUS] [MIDI] [PDF] [Original] 

Whoa, that SPM sheet is pretty sweet. Definitely a challenging song though...I gave up with accidentals in those songs long ago  xD

Great to see your steady flow of sheet output!
Thanks, glad you like it! It's really... quite something and just as crazy as some other stuff of yours I remember way back when xD

Hi Latios212.  Thanks for reviewing my submission.  I took a good look at the sheet with your feedback in mind, and you were right on all counts.  I've only been rediscovering music since the start of last year, so there's a lot for me to learn still.
Thanks again for the feedback.  I have more arrangements in the works, but I'd love to get this one buttoned up before submitting more.
No problem! Hope you stick with it :) and thanks for prioritizing quality over quantity.

I have adjusted for all points of your feedback, but I still have something I'm unsure of.  Specifically the third voice in m. 18-21.  It harmonizes with the lead voice, but it's a bit lower.  Adding it as a separate distinct voice makes the sheet look a bit stranger than it should, IMO.  I kept the notes as a third lower than the lead, which may keep it to high but was much cleaner to read (and play).  The only difference is at the 4th beat of m. 21 where the voices are clearly not a third apart.
I also made the second voice distinct in m. 22, where there's a very short F on beats 1 and 3 with the lead (A then E).  I liked how it sounded these as half notes, but this is more true to the original.
These are good, I agree with the way you wrote it :P

There are some notes the song that sound very short, so I've added a few more staccato articulations in the right hand (measures 6, 11, 12, 21).
Yup, sounds good. I would suggest adding them to the eighth notes in the right hand in m. 7-8 just like you did in m. 11.

Some more things:
- Rhythm grouping: a couple of these measures need to show beat 3. So in measure 10, split the half rest into two quarter rests, and in measure 12 split the dotted quarter note into an eighth note tied to a quarter note. More details here if you want to read about it!
- The first note in the right hand of m. 16 is misaligned; just delete and re-enter it.
- Measure 21 beat 2 in the left hand should be an F instead of an E.
- I think the 16th notes that fall on the beat would be a bit easier to read as a staccato 8th note instead of a 16th with a dotted eighth rest afterwards. (Also it looks like the .mus file is out of sync with the PDF for this part right now?

Also, there are a handful of wrong notes in measures 15-18, mostly in the left hand. I'll let you take a look at those first, let me know if you need help!

Cool! I actually have almost nothing to say since this looks great, just a few minor spacing things.
- Would suggest reducing space between LH/RH staves in the first couple systems a bit and use that space to put more room around the first couple systems as the 8va in the second system in particular could use more space above it
- The music's a little close to the header on pages 2/3, would suggest moving the music down a little and reducing space between systems slightly to account for it
- Maybe make the tremolo lines at the end equidistant from the notes (they're a bit closer to the left notes)

Approving regardless :P

Thanks! Nah it looks good overall, I'll leave it to the next person to do a second check. Approved :)

(Oh, and I'd suggest making m. 7 beat 2.25 a 16th + 8th rest in line with my other comment above.)

Oh sorry, forgot to reply to that :) yeah, I think just removing it would be fine.

Sorry, but is there something with those measures in particular? I'm not sure exactly what to "re-beam" here.
Yeah. Connect the four notes with one beam just like everywhere else (since it looks like you had previously disconnected them as part of the clef change

Nice sheet, it looks, sounds, and plays great!

A few minor things:
- For 8vas that span multiple systems, use one continuous line (you can extend it over multiple systems). This will get rid of the hooks at the end of the systems when the 8va continues to the next system, and add parentheses around the 8va on subsequent systems.
- Make sure you re-beam beats 1-2 in m. 19-20.
- Regarding spacing on page 2, I'd put a little bit more space between systems as there's a bit of extra space at the bottom. The second system could also probably use just a bit more space between LH/RH staves because the notes get pretty close in places like m. 23.
- Misaligned note on beat 1 of m. 35
- You have an accent over a rest in m. 37... should it be under the RH chord?

Thank you!

Yeah, that makes sense. Unhid the rests and added a p dynamic there :P

Submissions / Re: [SW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - "Sea of Clouds" by JZ
« on: June 16, 2021, 03:34:50 AM »
I've done a first pass at the formatting during the workshop, sorry for the wait :) details are in this post here! (File is there too.)

Lemme know what you think and I'll come back to check the notes sometime soon.

Help Guides / Re: Page layout, spacing, and more
« on: June 16, 2021, 03:28:37 AM »
An Example

That's a lot of info - let's go through an example to see how these things come into practice! I'm going to be going through Sea of Clouds from Xenoblade Chronicles 2 since it contains a variety of parts that demand poking and prodding (and it's also in submissions right now and needs to be formatted :P). Keep in mind this is just one way of doing things - other distributions may work nicely too. And I'll be using Finale, but you should be able to make the equivalent adjustments to the distribution and spacing in MuseScore or other notation programs as well.

Here's what it looks like to start, inserted right inside the template - 4 measures per system, with consistent staff and system margins. Even spacing for all measures and systems won't exactly work nicely...


What are some things that need adjusting right off the bat? Let's start with the measure distribution which is currently sitting at 4 measures per system. The measures in the lower half of page 1 don't have to sit at 4 measures per system; they can take on more if needed because they're relatively empty. By contrast, the tuplets on the second system on page 1 as well as the runs on the last page clearly demand more space. With that in mind, let's move some measures up and down systems...


Now the system distribution - let's bump a system down from page 2 to page 3 since there's extra space on page 3.


Back to the measure distribution - the last system is a bit cramped with 2.5 measures worth of those tuplet runs. Let's free up some space by bumping some measures back a bit. Since there are some 4-measures systems at the beginning of page 2 we should have some room...


We could move a system off of page 1, but there won't be enough room on pages 2 and 3. There's actually quite a bit of space between systems on the first page (if you ignore the hidden pedal marks) so let's try moving them up closer together a bit...


The second and third systems need a little more space in between the LH/RH staves so the diminuendos aren't crushed...


Now without going into too much detail for the smaller dynamic/articulation/margin adjustments or really looking at the notes at all, we've got the sheet looking in decent shape and any further adjustments can be made without triggering any global changes in the layout (barring any critical mistakes in the arrangement). We end up with something looking like this...


From here on, it should be mostly tweaking values and spacing - won't go too much into detail since this is explained thoroughly in the system spacing and alignment sections in the above post. Here's the file in the above picture.

Hope this was a helpful example and feel free to reach out if you ever need any help or advice!

2021 Week 24

Here's another nice piano solo from the remake of Famicom Detective Club: The Missing Heir!

Famicom Detective Club: The Missing Heir
NEW!   Memories[MUS] [MIDI] [PDF] [Original] 

Also, me playing my other sheet from last time - Utsugi Detective Agency.

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