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#1
Quote from: Latios212 on September 17, 2023, 11:44:21 AMCheck this out! https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/by1hzod2g1x03qbnr5hge/h?rlkey=gorcnlakdc7lhrs1w2xtce19e&dl=0

The first file has some minor tweaks in addition to some tie/beaming adjustments. But to be honest, I think trying to fit this on one page is not great and I've provided a second file that more naturally spreads it across one and a half pages that I'd highly recommend using instead.

Let's go with the second file then. It looks great to me
#2
Quote from: Bloop on September 02, 2023, 02:04:08 PM-m23: I hear the Ab on beat 1 in the L.H. an octave down, do you think that's still feasible to play as a roll? It might be a bit of a slower roll than in the original in that case.
I adjusted the voicing to keep the original low Ab and make it more feasible to play.

Quote from: Bloop on September 02, 2023, 02:04:08 PM-m15 and 17: The middle tie of beat 2.5 looks like it's clashing with the notes on beat 3.
-m19: The cross-staffed notes in beat 2.5 look a bit misplaced, compared to their standerd position in beat 3.
Quote from: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 01:06:35 PMAlso this is something that needs full Finale, but the cross-staff beam in m. 24 should bend upwards.
I can't fix these myself, so please help me make the adjustments to do so.

Quote from: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 01:06:35 PMI'd be happy to help make some visual adjustments to this sheet before we accept it if you and Bloop want some assistance, as there are some minor spacing tweaks and such that could help alleviate the crampedness of this sheet.
Please do!

Updated the files.
#3
Quote from: Zeila on July 10, 2023, 11:25:45 PM
  • you could add some arpeggio markings to m. 11 LH beat 2.5, m. 14 LH beat 1, m. 18 beats 1 and 3 (both hands), and m. 21 beat 1 (both hands), but they're not totally required
Added arpeggio markings at m. 11 LH beat 2.5 and m. 21 beat 1, but the horizontal spacing between markings and note need some adjustments that I can't do in Notepad

Quote from: Zeila on July 10, 2023, 11:25:45 PM
  • m. 14 - idk if this is possible for you, but I would personally raise the 2nd layer rests to the default position (i.e. up 6 steps)
  • m. 14 - there's a G playing here too, and if the omission was because adding it seemed a bit too heavy handed, then I think it sounds okay when added as a 5th below the RH
Sounds great, changed

Quote from: Zeila on July 10, 2023, 11:25:45 PM
  • m. 21 - I think the last Bb is actually two octaves higher, but if you changed it so that the jump in the next measure isn't as large then that's okay too
I didn't changed this since I don't hear the two Bb as a upward interval at all. Still, the decreased jump distance is a valid reason too if the interval is indeed going upwards
#4
Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2023, 01:24:52 PMThis is fine, though you could add a dashed line that shows the movement between staffs, between the Bb on beat 2.5 and the D on beat 3.0
I'm not entirely convinced whether the Bb note belongs to the upper or lower voice, so I keep the first half of measure as single voice

Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2023, 01:24:52 PM- m8 RH beat 1 I'm not hearing an A, but hearing a G and a C. Technically these are above the D in the LH (and above the staff), but could add them to the RH if you wanted
- m16 RH not hearing the lower F on beat 1
The notes was a octave lower in original and added for a fuller sound. I can't hear the G and C note in m8 at all

Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2023, 01:24:52 PM- m18 something got messed up with the cross stave stem here, not sure if you have the ability to drag that down?
Nope, Notepad can't do that. Other adjustment for the future:
  • Middle ties in m15-17
  • m19 beat 2.5 RH note positions (match beat 3?)
#5
Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 28, 2023, 01:50:11 PM- m17 LH play around with the tie tool a little, as the middle tie (for the A) is clipping through the C notehead
I can't fix this myself as I'm using Finale Notepad. Someone would need to do so right before the sheet is accepted

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 28, 2023, 01:50:11 PM- m18 system could be widdened a little, the m21 dotted qaurter G in the LH almost looks like a staccato under the RH Bb here.
I solved the m21 collision by excluding the RH Bb inside the 8va and thus move the note up

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 28, 2023, 01:50:11 PMI would suggest a crossbar 8th note like m14 for m26; the Bb in the RH on beat 2.5 technically is followed by the Dn in the LH an 8th beat later. Not inherently a problem but it might be good as far as showing how the actual descending rhythm in the original flows
I don't like crossbar notes that have opposite direction in interval and stave location, so I choose to move the LH notes to upper stave instead
#6

This is supposed to be a replacement sheet, but I can't select this music in the replacement submission form ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#7
Quote from: Bloop on October 18, 2022, 03:22:56 AM-m46-53: Was there a specific reason you left out the bottom note of the orchestra hits here, compared to m2-9? I think they sound the same
I forgot the reason, but I guess it might be to match the number of notes in chords in m50-51. I've added back those bottom notes now

Quote from: Bloop on October 18, 2022, 03:22:56 AMdamn that's a hard to hear measure lol, I hear something like this
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I'm pretty sure about the F on beat 2 and the high C on beat 4, but not 100% about the D-G below in beat 4.
That sounds good to me too

Everything else should be fixed!
#8
Everything should be accounted for ^.^
#10
The beam has been broken, but I will need help on moving the systems since I'm using Notepad. Feel free to accept this once this is fixed
#11
Quote from: Latios212 on September 11, 2022, 02:00:33 PMI disagree here - I think it would be best as four 16th notes. They sound about evenly spaced and the third note lines up with beat 1.5 pretty well.

One other thing, for the slurs covering a phrase like in m. 17-18 I think the left end should cover the grace notes at the start too.
All changed

Quote from: Latios212 on September 11, 2022, 02:00:33 PMA few notes about rhythm on the last page: it very clearly makes heavy use of rubato, so I would strongly caution against trying to write in anything too precise. It's easy to write in something very prescriptive based on the original but doesn't make a lot of sense when reading. You can write in a textual instruction to play rubato and leave the melody as something that is nice to read but doesn't match exactly. All that said, I think this is fine overall but I would definitely suggest simplifying the phrase in 46-47 and the one in 55. I feel that dotted 16ths in straight 4/4 are a red flag that indicates needing to take a step back.
Added the rubato instructions and adjusted the mentioned phrases
#12
Quote from: Bloop on September 03, 2022, 12:00:37 PMAbout the newly added grace notes in m16 and 33: usually when you have a run of more than one grace note, we use 16th notes instead of 8th notes.
Quote from: Maelstrom on September 04, 2022, 02:59:04 PM^what bloop said
-m23 don't hear an obvious lift on the dotted half, but I know how messy double dotteds can be, esp when the ped. is already present
-m30 - I don't hear the RH restrike on b2.5, should just be a dotted 8th on b2
Got them

Quote from: Maelstrom on September 04, 2022, 02:59:04 PM-m46-47 was driving me crazy. The RH E hits on b4.5 of m46 and the F on b1 of m47, but the G hits right before b1.5, but they all sound equally spaced. Up to you how you want to represent it, but it's not 2 16ths+G landing on b1 of m47.
-m48-49 has a similar almost-triplet like shape spanning the barline (the E hits slightly before b1 of m49) but I guess it might be ok as is because cross-measure triplets are a nightmare.
m52-53 is similarly a headache. This is what I got:
-m55 - all RH notes are slightly desynced, but equal length. Straight 8ths might be best here. I'd welcome ideas.
For this section, I notate the equal length notes such that the start and end notes is accurate, and then place the others with increased note length for the latter ones if there are no convenient lengths.
#13
The edits looks great! I'll accept this
#14
Quote from: Maelstrom on September 03, 2022, 08:52:33 PMidk about the morality or legality of slurs overlapping on the same note in m26. Is that how phrases work now?
Did you mean the two slurs overlapping on m25b6? I'm not sure if the notes under the first slur should be a phrase on their own, or joined with the rest as one long phrase

Quote from: Maelstrom on September 03, 2022, 08:52:33 PMYou've got some vertical space to spare on page 2 so give the title a little breathing room instead of choking it with the 8va
I would need help on this since I'm on Finale Notepad

Quote from: Maelstrom on September 03, 2022, 08:52:33 PMpretty solid

fantastic sheet as a whole I'd say
Thanks ^w^
#15
Quote from: Bloop on August 28, 2022, 07:08:18 AM-m22: The guitar at the start of this measure plays a little more laid-back compared to the measure before, but I'm not sure if writing the rhythm as strict 16ths really conveys that well. Maybe you could just keep it the same and let the player interpret it, or write the D-C as grace notes to the B so they fall a little bit later in the bar, or write the whole C-D-C-B figure as a turn? Same in m39.
I opt for keeping the mordent but adjust the C-B note to triplet 4th-8th notes, so that the B note is slightly delayed and the mordent notes aren't too detached from it.

Quote from: Bloop on August 28, 2022, 07:08:18 AM-m25: I hear a B from the piano voice on beat 4.5 too, or did you leave that out consciously?
I did leave that out consciously to emphasize the bass, but I decide to add back the arpeggio part in the current version since it can be played by the right hand.

Quote from: Bloop on August 28, 2022, 07:08:18 AM-m16: The 32nds here at the end of the measure are a bit cramped, but maybe you could write them as grace notes instead? Either at the start of m17 or before the barline here in m16. Same in m33.
-m40: The bracket of the triplet clashes with the beam of the L.H.
-m43: I think I hear a little mordent on the R.H. F here.
-m47: I hear something like this in beat 3-4 in the R.H. rhythmically:
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-m57: Maybe the R.H. in beat 3-4 is more akin to a quarter triplet?
-m63-65: I'm not sure if you really need to write this as rhythmically as this, as it sounds like it's just played very freely. Maybe you could write the arpeggio in 8ths, make the second to last note (the D) a quarter note, and write "rit., freely" above it?
All fixed