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#1
Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMNow that you've reminded me of notepad's features, I've changed 3.25 to a semiquaver, as I can get the symmetry without losing the middle of the bar.
Additional beaming can be added to the left hand for 1-8 as well (sorry didn't notice this first time)


Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMThe pedal was only for the gliss and the 10th interval, not the lengthened staccato effect. I've removed the pedal and will just leave it up to performer's discretion if they want the playability over staccatoness.

That's a good point regarding pedaling and gliss - definitely do this myself often.


Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMchanged to https (which I think you meant to write).
(oops thanks for getting that right yourself lol)

Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMOn listening again, I'm not sure of m9 Cn in RH either, I think one of the strings is playing the offbeat Eb and the other is playing F Eb on 3.0 4.0. Since the offbeat semiquavers are more prevalent to me, I will choose to notate them.
I think for m9 RH it would be a little more consistent to have the second layer be a dotted half note Fn for beat 1-3 and Eb quarter note on beat 4. Although the guitar part is a bit more prominent, I think it's weird to have it just in this one spot.

Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMI can only hear one string line m10 b1.0-2.75
With m14, same as m9 I don't hear the Cn in m13.
I can hear this as you have now.


Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMm9 The bottom An is the final note for the gliss in the original. Now that I've removed the octaves, the bottom An feels out of place (its not part of a line, and finishing the gliss on the bottom A is horrible for playability) so I have removed it.
Good change.

Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMI'm not certain on stemming rules, but I think the Cn in m13 and maybe DFD in m14 will need its stem flipped.
The Bb C Bb chord is hard to play, though I have opted to omit the bottom Bb of b1.5, so that if the performer omits the bottom line, the counter melody isn't gutted.
Yeah for this, could split the A's on beat 1 of m13 RH into the first layer, and have the Dn in the second layer. Can update this when I update your files in Finale if that works (after sheet approval).

Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AMI don't think the bass sounds much longer than at m4 or m8 to warrant non staccato. It might just be resonance with strings clouding the bass sound. Maybe the performer's favorite, slurred staccatos are appropriate.
Relistening I have to agree with you!

Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AM
I don't like the idea of bringing the Fn up to an An, as that breaks the Dm chord, and the G, E, enclosure preceding it.

For certain pianists, the bottom Fn is playable, especially with a bit of rolling and pedal. I expect <10% of Ninsheetmusic's target audience to be comfortable playing a 10th, which is why the notes are in small heads, and I had text originally indicating to omit the bottom line at performer's discretion.


I would like to keep the bottom line is, as it currently is (optional bottom line for big handed pianists). Its probably okay to change m11 b3 to a half note, and put m12 b1 up the octave, as a compromise instead of removing the bottom line entirely.
I disagree that changing to an A breaks up the Dm chord, even with one pitch removed in the RH, the overall progression of notes feels and sounds like Dm. As far as playability, it is low, but I am open to you leaving it for the next updater.


Quote from: goldenscruff on March 24, 2024, 01:34:42 AM
Now that I've removed quite a few octaves from the bottom line, it has more 'secondary part' feel than before, so I will keep the small note heads.
My last thought on the notehead size/performance note bit. Having looked at this arrangement a few times now, I don't think the small noteheads are necessary, nore warranting a performance note. I think most times you see performance notes or small noteheads, it's for difficult parts that are somewhat secondary. Posting a few examples of small noteheads. Keep them if you want, but I think this song is not that complicated and it's not necessary. Can also make updates to this notehead size upon approval for you.

https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/3193
https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/5379


For ease of reading, going to leave my last feedback bits together down here.
• Add beaming to LH notes for m1-8 (beat 1.0 to 2.5, and 3.0 to 4.0)
• I'm hearing m13 LH beat 2 as a Fn
• My comment about m9 layer 2
• For dynamics - general advisory is to format them so that they are centered between the staffs and centered under and above the noteheads they first impact (screenshot)
#2
Quote from: Latios212 on March 22, 2024, 06:52:39 PMHm I don't really agree with a decresc. into 65, the piano part at the end seems pretty consistent in volume, or at least I'd prefer to interpret it as such. It does match the intro's dynamic level though, so mp does seem warranted. Perhaps at m. 61 after the melody is gone? I've put it there for now.
Totally fair, and that's a good place for it.

Quote from: Latios212 on March 22, 2024, 06:52:39 PMAh yeah swapping that G for an E sounds right! I don't think a downward roll sounds right on piano though, I think some of those pitches in the original just don't play perfectly in sync.
Yeah that's fair as well.


Will approve, one closing thing for consideration, I think the LH beat 3.5 note throughout a decent chunk of m1-31 does sound shortened and you could add a staccato. Applies to 12 8th notes throughout m1-31 I think.
#3
Hi Fernman,

Had a bit of back and forth with the updating team, we concluded that this sheet and the individual tracks would be more consistently named Start Demos 2-5 (Stage Intros). As seen the videos you've linked refer to these tracks by name as "Start Demos", so given Start Demo 1 is already on site it would just be a bit more consistent.

"Start Demo 2"
"Start Demo 3"
"Start Demo 4"
"Start Demo 5"
#4
Okay, some real feedback

• The tempo is in a different font than the current templates (Maestro Times and Times New Roman are what they should be for notehead and bpm # respectively

Piano 1
• m10 RH 3.25 hearing En, 3.5 C#, 3.75 An, and 4.75 as C# again.
• m19 1.0 and 4.0, and m20 3.0 the Dn sounds slightly longer, could remove the staccato, or add an accent as well? Would apply also for m23 and 24 same spots
   • For these same mentioned measures as well, also not hearing the parallel thirds underneath the notes.
   • Additionally, for m19 hearing a Dn on 3.5 (3.0 is not full quarter length), as well as m20 2.5. Same spots for m23 and 24
• m25 RH hearing 1.0 as 16th length, followed by same notes on 1.25.
• m37 RH you could add the fall on beat 2.0 (the Gn). Could have it end before beat 3, but I also can understand excluding it given the notes on beat 3 LH. You could alternatively write beat 2 RH as a sextuplet (5 notes) - Gn, F#, En Dn C# or all notes after G I mentioned as grace notes. Could do something like this sheet: https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/5267 m19 RH before beat 3 for example.
• m58 RH there is a run on beat 1 you could add as opposed to a rest, similar to m61 beat 4.
• m58-62 LH I do wonder if this part is a bit excessive - just listening to playback and midi with the collective LH's I have a hard time hearing the RH melody for Piano 1 here (though admittedly I had a hard time when removing any notes). I would lightly suggest removing the bottom An octave just so it's not three low octaves of An in the LH between both pianos. Feel free to stick with if you'd like for another updater opinion, but I do think there's a bit too much An at the moment here.


Piano 2
• m3 and m5, m7 and m9 beat 3.0 and 3.5 these 8th rests could be combined to a quarter rest.
• m11 and m16 LH I hear beats 3.5-4.5 An, Gn, Bn
• m20 and m24 LH hearing 4.0 as F#
• m49 RH hearing grace notes as En and Fn
• m59 LH 4.5 hearing as Cn
• m61 1.0 hearing En, 1.5 An. 4.5 also as Cn
#5
Hi and welcome to NinSheetMusic submissions lpratt!

The way the submissions process works is two updaters will review your sheet and highlight notes and formatting on your sheet that need to be updated, which you can then review and implement. Once two updaters approve of your sheet, it will be accepted and put on the site in the next update!


We request that submitters leave a YouTube link or source audio for the songs that they have arranged, looks like this is the music (I had never heard of this game before)
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I'm assuming your submission is from using MuseScore and then going to Finale NotePad, please see a couple links as far as how to do some proper formatting as there are a number of elements missing from the sheet that we expect all sheets to have (copyright info at bottom of page, quotations around the title, etc.). Let me know what your setup is and I'll help you get this sheet to where it needs to be as efficiently and effectively as possible

Template at top of this page (formatting guideline)

Formatting in MuseScore & Exporting to Finale
#7
If you want to, I don't think you have to all caps the title lol. More recent soundtrack release had this lower case https://vgmdb.net/album/97436. I think according to this album Yoshie Arakawa is the sole composer. https://vgmdb.net/album/582
• You could do an 8vb and similar indication (see pic for example of what to do, can just hide the 8vb currently present so the effect carries on playback)- would look slightly cleaner but not earth shattering so you could leave as is if you want.
#8
Cliors Memoirs? More like C Major bahaha but this is a nice sounding one  ;D

• Given there's no direction to pedal, I think you could staccatos to 2nd layer RH 8th notes in m27-28
• m28 RH not much time for it but could add trill to beat 2
• m58 RH 3.0 hearing grace note as D#
• m65 you could add a decresc. heading into this measure, or add an mp dynamic to end the piece
• m66 RH I'm not hearing the bottom G, but hearing an En between Top G and Dn. Also sounds like a roll, but from top pitches down.
#9

The RH notes are a bit of a mishmash - there's an organ that has a descending Bb, Gb, Eb Bb line for the four bar figure that I incorporated, and I did my best to keep all other heard chord pitches (moving octaves where necessary).

LH is a bit basic, but I felt like it was necessary to have this pulse - would be interested if others thought more percussion should be incorporated into the accompaniment
#10
This is quite interesting looking, will have to look at a bit more. The credit at the bottom of page is missing the website link though...
#11
Quote from: goldenscruff on March 12, 2024, 01:19:40 AMI've gone and tried adding some in Finale Notepad, not sure if they're done to spec.
Looks like they've sort of come through. There's a weird dash line that got added that we can remove at the end. I do want to suggest removing the pedals. Usually we don't recommend pairing pedal directions with staccatoed notes as it's not quite possible to do the staccato effect when holding down the pedal. I also don't think the sections that are staccatoed really merit the lengthening effect regardless. Even with the cur

Quote from: goldenscruff on March 12, 2024, 01:19:40 AMI know that we avoid writing durations across beats and the middle of the bar, but I liked the symmetry of the two notes being the same staccato. I've changed it to how you've suggested, as 3 offbeat semiquavers has a similar issue, of not knowing where the center of the bar is.

Yeah ultimately will look a bit cleaner as well. One thing that seems to be missing from my screenshot is beat 2.75 can also beam across the rest to beat 2.25 for example. This applies for m2, 4, and 6.


Quote from: goldenscruff on March 12, 2024, 01:19:40 AMBoth small heads and parentheses don't look great on the seconds, but I've changed them to small heads, partly so I don't have to manually place parentheses in Notepad. I had En in an earlier version. Changed both of these.

So these noteheads are a bit small - generally I think 75-85% notehead size (not sure if that's how it's displayed in MuseScore) is the size you'll typically see. In the casee of this sheet, I don't think the notehead size changes are necessary, usually that is only done with secondary parts and not octaves (example here: https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/5379).


Quote from: goldenscruff on March 12, 2024, 01:19:40 AMI've updated the file, but I knowingly haven't fixed the staccatos and slurs (I'm not particularly attached to the slurs happy to remove) because I'll probably have to import from xml again.
Yeah some of this stuff can't be fixed in NotePad unfortunately.


More Feedback

• Link at bottom of page for NinSheetMusic should be htpps not http
• m8 RH move the gliss symbol's starting point a bit to the right so it doesn't obscure the dot of the dotted quarter note. I'm also hearing this as an Fn, not an An.
• m10 RH first layer I'm not hearing the current small note heads on beats 1.0-2.0 - as far as the Dn's that are currently the middle pitches, I hear beat 2.0 the Dn go to an Fn.
• m12 RH beat 1 second layer the Fn on bottom is not going to be playable. If you want to represent the note in some way still, you could move it up to An
• m14 RH First layer, I'm also not hearing small notes, though for the Dn's for 1.0-2.0, hearing 1.5 as an Fn. You can also remove the fingering directions (the 1's).
• m16 RH I think I hear the Cn's that are being represented on 1.0-2.0 - It will be a bit difficult to play though, so I would suggest removing them on beat 1.5 and 2.5.
• m16 LH 3.0-4.0 I think you could remove staccatos as they sound a little long, and could add a slur as well.
#12
Bumping for arranger, are you still around to work on this one?
#13
Title of the submission and sheet should be "Start Demo 2", not just "Demo". I think the titles of the Stage Intros are fine - though I personally think the order should go "short" to "long" and not long to short. Any thoughts on that?

Looks like this one's going to need a bit of formatting work... we do have a standardized appearances for compilation tracks in the formatting guidelines.

I think this might be a close example of what yours could look like at acceptance.
https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/5068

#14
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[PS2] .hack//MUTATION
"rtown2 (Λ Server Cultural City Carmina Gadelica)" by Static

[MUL] Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
"Scenery of the Town ~Night~" by Latios212

[GBA] Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
"Chapel" (Replacement) by Atcero

[NES] Dragon Quest
"Fight" by LeviR.star
"Finale" by LeviR.star

[MUL] Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward
"Order Yet Undeciphered" by Static

[SW] Fire Emblem: Three Houses
"Dwellings of the Ancient Gods (Rain)" by Bloop

[PS1] Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
"And I Begin To Wonder" by Th3Gavst3r

[Wii] Mario Kart Wii
"Coconut Mall" by Bloop & XiaoMigros

[GCN] Mario Party 7
"Fun in the Sun" by ThatHiddenCharacter

[Wii] Mario Party 9
"Tough Enemy" by ThatHiddenCharacter

[NDS] Nintendogs
"Chow Record" by PokéMaster

[N64] Pokémon Stadium 2
"Stadium" by Fernman

[3DS] Pokémon X & Pokémon Y
"Battle! (Team Flare)" by Kricketune54
"Snowbelle City" by Kricketune54
"Surf" by Latios212

[SW] Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! & Pokémon: Let's Go, Eevee!
"Choose Your Language" by Th3Gavst3r

[GEN] Sonic the Hedgehog 3
"Special Stage" by Nine Lives

[N64] Star Fox 64
"Versus Select" by Fernman

[GB] Super Mario Land
"Ground Theme" (Replacement) by Nine Lives

[MUL] Super Street Fighter IV
"Theme of Dee Jay -SSFIV Arrange-" by Fantastic Ike

[GB] Tetris
"Game Over/Stage Clear" by Code_Name_Geek

[PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero
"Resonating Heart" by cacabish

[MUL] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
"Link's Memories: Slumbering Power" by gu

[MUL] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
"Ladies of the Woods" by Bloop

[PC] Undertale
"Memory" by XiaoMigros
#15
Brief discord discussion, all of my comments have been addressed and the sheet is updated. Now good to accept! Great job both  :)