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If 1 more fascist policy is passed, the game could end at any moment. So now is the proper time to test them because we don't risk losing the game.

It's difficult to tell the ratio because so many people could be lying. At this point, we can guarantee that at least 2 liberal policies have been used: one by me/n1, and one by Shy/Olimar. Shy claims to have discarded 2 more liberal cards, and BDS claims that another was discarded. So if they are both telling the truth, that makes 5 total liberal policies have been used up. But maybe Brainy was lying when he said that he drew 3 fascist policies; maybe he discarded a liberal policy and handed down 2 fascist policies. Or maybe Shy was lying about drawing 3 liberal policies, and instead received 2 liberal policies and 1 fascist policy. We know that at least 2 were handed down since both Olimar and Shy said so (or maybe they're fascist partners and they both lied about that second liberal policy). I like to overthink things.


tl;dr We believe that at LEAST 4 liberal policies have been used up: 3 from Shy/Olimar, 1 from me/n1. BDS's liberal policy is under suspicion.

If BDS is telling the truth, then there are 1/5 liberal policies. If he's lying, then there's 2/5. If Brainy was lying, then we can subtract 1 from each value. If Shy was lying, then we can add 1 to each value.

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Just messaged davy. Turns out there's nothing stopping the fascists from messaging Hitler. That was my main argument against n1 being Hitler and BDS being fascist. So n1's "I have nothing to hide" comment has absolutely no merit if he knew that BDS was also fascist. In normal Secret Hitler, Hitler doesn't know who the fascists are. I assumed that there was something in place to keep that the same. But there's not. So it's all still very much up in the air for me. I want to see what happens with Olimar/Brainy.

Hitler's job is to not get killed. Bottom line. BDS painted a huge target on his own head if he was Hitler. Same goes for Olimar. Hence why I think that neither is Hitler.

Why do you think that BDS is more likely fascist than Olimar?

I would say that exactly one of them is fascist. And neither is Hitler.

If BDS and Olimar were fascist allies BDS could have claimed that he got 3 fascist policies. That would make Olimar null and BDS slightly suspicious. Instead they're both under suspicion.

I mean, they COULD both be fascists, but I find that highly unlikely.

I'm tempted to clear brainy for being this out of it

Or he's hitler. Being quiet and out of the way is pretty standard for hitler players.

I was given 2 fascist policies and 1 liberal policy. I gave n1 one of each policy. He chose the liberal policy.
This tells me that n1 is either liberal or hitler. I don't think that he and BDS are the fascist pair. The only problem with n1 being hitler is that he needed to know that BDS was also fascist for his "I have nothing to hide" comment to make sense. I think that n1 is liberal.

I'm still undecided on BDS/Olimar. I am very comfortable with the thought of fascist BDS calling n1 liberal. He's already at odds with Olimar, vindicating 1 player isn't a huge deal, since it makes himself look more liberal in turn.

Olimar, there's not really a bad choice right now for chancellor. Obviously you're not going to choose BDS, which is fine. We need information. mikey, brainy, or shy all make sense. Personally I would go with brainy since he had the 3 fascist policies. But it's not a huge deal.

Oh, it's for 2 days. I thought election phase was 1 day.

I think that everyone that's going to vote has voted.

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I don't like how you've reacted to Olimar recently. It's like you know he's a fascist and trying to avoid admitting that.

Are you referring to me or Mikey? Because either way, there's still a 50/50 chance that you're a fascist. There's also a 50/50 chance that Olimar's a fascist, but Olimar's not withholding information. Nobody else comes anywhere close to you two in terms of suspicion, imo.

Anyway, I nominate n1p2 as chancellor.

I'm travelling for the next 3-4 hours so I won't be on.

Am I still nominating n1? I don't trust BDS, but I'll play along for now. I don't like it because he can twist the narrative however he wants, but I'm not going to push the subject.

If you know that he's a fascist, then you should absolutely claim that.

Not that your seering is absolute, of course. But I want to hold you accountable to your results, rather than you being able to twist the narrative however you please afterwards.

I'm going to wait for BDS's seer results before nominating anybody. Right now it's between Brainy and n1p2.

yeah, but it's still important regardless.

Who are you going to choose, BDS?

Do you have anything you want to add to the discussion?