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I have a semantic question for this one. Since Four Swords originally came out bundled with the GBA remake of A Link to the Past, shouldn't the title of the game be "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and Four Swords"? There was a similar question a while back for this sheet, which got the name of the game collection, not the game within the collection.
Oricorio—fantastic D2 mindgame at the end there. That thing only works if someone's around to take advantage of it, which wasn't a guarantee since it was so late. Played me just enough to be persuaded by Davy's appeal in PMs. You were strong the whole game, but the ostensible SD was literally a game-winning move. Well done. I bow lol.

@humans, I really am sorry for losing focus so hard at the end there. That's 100% on my shoulders. Low-key bannable offense lol.
I am so sorry everyone. Historic choke.
Yeah, that's totally reasonable BDS. I'm sorry I went for it and I will absolutely be closing my heart to pity for third parties in the future. See what I do for you Davy?!?? :(

Wolf likelihood
3. THC
2. BDS
1. Oricorio

I know the Oricorio pivot to Xiao is feasible from human!Oricorio's perspective, but as was pointed out, it makes far and away the most sense if he had certain knowledge of the naughty list and realized last-minute that he could live if he threw it to the player with a phantom.
It's on Santa now basically

I want it to be 2-2
Unvote. I'll eat a phantom so Davy can hit his win condition.
That is an extremely late-in-the-phase gambit to try to pull off. It's suicide for wolf!Oricorio if no one reacts to it.
All right, that gives me pause. If Oricorio is a wolf, getting Davy lynched right now would kill him.
Changing my vote to Oricorio. I just can't shake the red check.
We're not going to be able to guarantee no naughty-list shenanigans unless all four remaining humans unanimously vote the Grynch. And if we whiff, it's up in the air whether we even get a D3. If you actually think it's BDS, now is the time to explain, THC.
Lore dump. sorry for the 11th-hour update.

Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 09, 2024, 08:52:47 PMOk, I told davy that if I die tonight, Oricorio is the Grinch. So if I die tonight, davy is the Grinch trying to frame Oricorio. If I don't die, then BDS is the Grinch.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on January 10, 2024, 08:10:43 AMSo you're not as set on BDS as you made it sound in the thread? Why not?
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 10, 2024, 09:03:15 AMOh, I'm 100% set on BDS. I'm trying a gambit that I realized actually just makes things more complicated, but I was already high on sowing chaos by the time I finished setting it up. I've sent that same message to every player, but one off. So, for example, I told Xiao that I told you that if I die tonight, it's davy, and so if I die it's you trying to frame davy. So on and so forth. The reason I'm telling you this is because I actually trust you the most right now. Since you showed up and started posting more, you've read very town to me. I will say that Xiao's response was "Noted", so if I do die, then Xiao is likely the Grinch since I doubt BDS would wolf me as the Grinch because I'm plenty sus enough for him to keep me alive. I still fully believe BDS is the Grinch, but there's always room for error. You're my backup plan if I die, now. Thanks for volunteering.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on January 10, 2024, 09:58:26 AMHa. Occurred to me you might be doing that, and actually it's a strategy that's occurred to me in prior games lol--not sure why it hasn't been used before. Why are you so 100% on BDS? Your gut has been good before, but it's been wrong before too.
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 10, 2024, 10:03:40 AMI'm not sure. I just have that same feeling I had in the assassin's game. I was so positive he was an assassin and I was his ward, and I was right. If I have that same feeling again, I feel like I should stick to it. I have always been the kind of person that can subconsciously read people without realizing I'm reading them or being able to put it into words. I'm usually the first to tell when someone's a gross person before it becomes apparent to everyone else. So I trust my gut implicitly.

Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 10, 2024, 10:06:33 AMAt this point, I'm just waiting until phase end without responding to anyone (except you, obviously), so I can see what happens. I'm fairly certain I won't die this phase, as the only player I would see doing that at this point would be Xiao. That's why I want you to preach that if I do die. Cause if I die, then it's most likely Xiao. But if I don't, which I likely won't, then I fully believe it's BDS.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on January 10, 2024, 12:59:43 PMI don't think you're a wolf, but I'm waiting till the last minute to send this just in case. I am the seer, and Davy flipped Grandma last night—dead to rights.
--now D2--
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 10, 2024, 01:04:49 PMIf you're actually telling the truth, that is hilarious. It just goes to show I should never doubt my gut. Unless you're lying, but at this point, I highly doubt it. If you rolled wolf again, then you deserve the win at this point anyway. But I still believe it's BDS. The Toby wolfing is interesting, I'll need to recheck my PMs to see what I said to who.

Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on January 10, 2024, 01:22:31 PMAgreed, anything you have would be helpful--let me know what you come up with. Also I want your thoughts on this: I just got a red check on someone for N2. I'd like to stay hidden for longer just in case we go to N3. My suggestion is this: what if I go public in the thread and say "the seer wants to stay hidden, but he trusted me to pass on his results, and here they are"?

the Grynch will then try to figure out who the seer was. He might decide it's you (since you're near the bottom of my suspicion list) and make you the target N3, and I get to live for one more night's seering if we haven't won by then. What do you think of that plan?
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 10, 2024, 01:24:09 PMI am more than willing to go along with that. Also, none of my PMs really helped with figuring out anything since Toby was wolfed. My only guess is that it was likely an experienced player.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on January 10, 2024, 01:37:00 PMDo you think it would be better for me to say (falsely) that the seer contacted me with these results or for you to be the one to break it and say (truthfully) that the seer contacted you with these results?
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 10, 2024, 01:50:21 PMNo one would be believe me at this point. I've gone off the deep end. Most people seem to be townreading you, though.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on January 10, 2024, 02:29:46 PMIf you want to claim seer publicly, I won't counterclaim you--for now at least. Let's see where this goes.
--Oricorio rats out Davy--
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 11, 2024, 11:24:30 AMAnd with that message from Oricorio, I now trust you 100%. This is certainly an interesting turn of events.


TL;DR I'm the seer, not THC. I was going to sit on this until the last few seconds of N3 to try to survive for one more seering, but it sounds like that's not going to be helpful since my power is unlikely to pick up another red. For those of you upset that I banked so much on a THC read, I apologize--I know it was risky. Everything that has been claimed re: the seer in the thread is true, just with THC and my names switched. And to be clear, I still believe THC to be human based on my interactions with him--his reaction to my claiming seer privately was very human. I think it's only fair, though, that everyone has all the information before the phase rolls over, since keeping it to myself has a very small potential upside.
So what I'm hearing is that the seer power is probably useless tonight since the Grynch probably knows Santa
@SpecsFlyer17 , can the Grynch change his color by guessing Santa's identity after Santa is dead?