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technically still alive in the thread you can't kill me monika!!!!!~~

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To summarize: inactivity sucks and theres nothing we can do about it besides get mad at the player.
but I'm ok with a lkjhgfdsa lycnh because don't think I would ever forgive myself if we lost to a third party who just sat around and did nothing.
I actually see it as the opposite. Inactivity is more of a structural issue than a strategy one, so I don't see any blame or shame if we lost to someone who literally didn't play. Its totally out of our hands and I couldn't get mad at myself for not being able to be psychic. Inactivity lynches for me are either last resorts or early game moves, neither of which I see this phase being.

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Bubbles

I’ve been suspicious of you since fairly early on in the game, and even after your being seer’d green, these suspicions didn’t go away. Call it a gut feeling, if you like, but upon further analysis, I think I have a reason, or a few. Firstly, you posted once right as the game began, and didn’t post again until page 6, in which case you made note of the weirdness of there not being a wolfing N1. From there, you concluded it was most likely Inactivity (to hide the obvious fact that the wolves hit Monika N1, which they quite obviously did, in hindsight), and you then voted for the completely inactive ThiccWifeSiccLife. So in other words, an inactive person... blaming Inactivity... and then pinning it on an inactive person. Huh. That’s a lil weird. From there, most of your posting from what I’ve seen has consisted mostly of “Guyssssssss I’m sick and it sucks and I feel like I’m dying, but Ima try to play tomorrow!” I get it. Playing games like this while sick does suck, but we don’t need to be reminded of this 3-4 times, now do we? It’s like you’re hiding behind an excuse. There’s probably more coming here, but I want to review posts again to get my facts straight before doing so.
woww this suspicion list came at my neck lmfao

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Firstly, you posted once right as the game began, and didn’t post again until page 6, in which case you made note of the weirdness of there not being a wolfing N1. From there, you concluded it was most likely Inactivity (to hide the obvious fact that the wolves hit Monika N1, which they quite obviously did, in hindsight), and you then voted for the completely inactive ThiccWifeSiccLife. So in other words, an inactive person... blaming Inactivity... and then pinning it on an inactive person. Huh. That’s a lil weird.
I posted once during Night 1 as an introduction, then waited until the phase actually ended to put in input again. That is, waited until something actually happened, as N1 is basically pre-game, where the majority of clean players don't have anything they can do but wait. I don't think it's really viable to criticize someone for not posting on N1, and I don't feel like I really need to explain myself more than this. My vote on Thicc was a safety, which you also made that same phase. Again, not something I feel I need to explain myself over, and I find it really weird that you're coming at me for something you literally did as well.

Speaking of inactivity, aside from the irrelevant talk N1 you only made 5/6 posts before Day 4, with 4 of those either being short apologies for being inactive or safetys on yourself.
Aughhhhh there isn’t enough time to read everything... T_T
AuuuuuuuuuuGHHHHHHHHH stuff all of a sudden got crazy (irl) T_T third trimester SUCKS and we haven’t even had our third day yet! Ima read all of this tomorrow after school before tenor sax lessons and develop a suspicions post. I shouldn’t’ve signed up for this game...
You literally only showed up during day phases to say you were busy with real life stuff, and place a safety/make a short suspicion list. I'm not saying this is suspicious, (esp since you're confirmed at this point), but that you should know better than anyone what a weak and hypocritical argument you're making
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“Guyssssssss I’m sick and it sucks and I feel like I’m dying, but Ima try to play tomorrow!” I get it. Playing games like this while sick does suck, but we don’t need to be reminded of this 3-4 times, now do we? It’s like you’re hiding behind an excuse.
also this made me laugh lmao like damn



I've been saying for a while now that Maestro is the most most likely to be Monika. He basically threw in the towel earlier, which I've said before is either a risky stunt or if legitimate only really excusable if you're a third party role who wouldn't be dragging down any other players with you, which I'm sure Maestro would have been aware of. All of a sudden he's back and basically just going with the flow of what the confirmed humans are saying. His only two attacks, me and lkjhgfdsa, are not only both bandwagons on Egadd (a confirmed), but also for wholly inactivity reasons with the mentality that we're "going with the flow" to blend in. Similar to Egadd, this is a totally hypocritical argument. Again, not saying having real life business and prioritizing that is suspicious in any way, but pretending you're some higher person who's allowed to be excused from having an actual life. I know you're more of an experienced player and should be able to see the flaws in your entire playing style and whole line of argument, so I'm holding you to it more than I am him.

Lkjhgfdsa has very little against him because he's been posting very little, its as simple as that. Inactivity isn't a sign pointing one way or another in terms of teams, and as much as it sucks there's nothing we can really do about it. This is why we had phantoms before, to prevent players like this from making games end up like this. Regardless, this phase is too important to lynch a player just for inactivity, wherever that may take us. I'm not going to lynch a player for being inactive when I've have real reason to suspect another.




To be totally honest I've wanted this game to be over for a while now but I don't want to ruin the fun for anyone (noc included) :// sorry if I'm not seeming like my heart is in it. I'm spending a lot of time in discord if anyone has any short questions that don't require a full post like this to answer

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davy idk when you're going to sleep but i'll try my best to get this out noww

my two main suspicions are THC and Maestro. tbh I'm not totally sure how THC is still alive, I thought we were all under the impression that he was the traitor but that's irrelevant now. I could see him being the needy, but monika seems unlikely. Maestro dipping smells like monika to me for reasons I've said before, mainly that it's a third party role and publicly announcing your permenant inactivity seems more justifiable when you're playing for your own team and wouldn't drag anyone down with you. Sure Monika is working with the wolves, but regardless the wolves are their own team and should be able to win without a third party's help (or at least in the eyes of Maestro, that could've been the justification behind it)

hoping to elaborate and include more players later. sorry this weeks been tough

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG 100th Anniversary: Dinner and a Show
« on: March 01, 2018, 06:20:54 AM »
Lets conduct this phase by having everyone post a suspicion list.
^^lets actually have a logical discussion this time

still sick and only kinda feel like i'm dying but i'm gonna try tomorrow to crank one out

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could we at least have an updated vote count?

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oo if the master wolf wants to claim my joke would play out v nicely!!

gary wya

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lmfao supermarina said his seers too...maybe i should just be quiet and take some medicine

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actually jk tzp said he seered firearrow...literally cut that out of my quote for my joke my bad. fever. how about the night before??

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sorry if i'm sounding impatient or missing something obvious  i had three midterms today and now i have a 103 fever so life's having a fun time with me

But Supermarina who did you seer last night? You do realize that if we're to believe you and not TZP, then TZP is most likely the traitor or monika. With the risk of the traitor, it prevents him from being a guaranteed lynch (lynching the traitor today would harm the wolves very little and should not be our priority, if we know who he is we can keep him living so he counts for us and just ignore him if he's not causing too much trouble)

TZP, this goes for you too. Who did you seer last night phase? The night before? We need evidence over just claims esp in a game like this after Brainys stunt

also i meant to post this if someone counterclaimed but i forgot about it. i'm p proud of it tho so i'm still gonna post it
Spoiler
So if you haven't figured out already, I am the seer.
Simple.  I told him he was blue.  I'm the real seer.
Your claim will unfortunate go contested, TheZeldaPianist.
Are you listening, wolves?
I am the true seer.

don't judge me for the skew i'm on mobile and imgur isn't working for me anymore :-(
[close]

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As it were, what he told me (like, D1), is that mikey seems to have given him a special role in the story, and so he thought it meant he was a special. Of course, the storyline is not indicative of anything, it’s just for dramatic purposes only. But he didn’t seem to think so.
this is sketch to me because our names in the story aren't what we expected them to be. I was Michael Buble, but apparently not. I'm sure other players who know their names can back me up on this (i remember someone else's mentioning it but idr who). Brainy couldn't have known which player he was, and even if he did that's a real stretch to assume he was the brutal (i.e. the only role he could've been with a regular pm)

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I was a little on the fence about TZP's claim at first, but with every other player already claiming "not seer" its actually seeming more believable.

Why should we also account for your seering results? I want the logs between you and Brainy. Your claims are not concrete either, and if you deny it, you know you'll make yourself look wolfy if you aren't already are for claiming a false seering. We know that the FireArrow seer being green came from the real seer, not from you, so was it that you wanted to change information? Why would you allow FireArrow a false seering? Was it to keep him safe for a phase, or was it at your convenience to claim FireArrow as orange, which may possibly not even be a role color? Wolves have killed Sayori, but does that mean that they know what color he was? You can't fake a seered color.

You assume FireArrow is Monika, an inaccurate claim already. This thinking can apply to either a human or Monika, in which the former case is more applicable. Take a look.In the end, remember that it's a THIRD PARTY. This team does not have to team up with the wolves and it can kill anyone they want. Wolves can be marked.

BDS urged this at the end of a phase, and if you hadn't seen anything, you claim inactivity. Inactivity is nothing to just glance at. Wolves hang back and catch up when the time is most right.
This isn't even close to a silent argument or an argument at all. You're using quick inferences from the Discord group itself and the forums. If you do not have logs to share publicly, you do not have a concrete claim.

Everyone else needs to reconsider. While the same case applied to Brainy as seer, it's clear now that he was the Brutal Human and had been supplied accurate information from the seer as well as given the freedom to look sloppy. However, TheZeldaPianist continues to appear sloppy, despite counterclaiming. For a major role, their evidence is sparse, they have no logs as proof, and they continue to hound a seering that was supported as green.
Supermarina, the large amount of your argument against TZP is centered on the idea that Firearrow is a "confirmed" green. Considering Brainy gave the seerings of BDS as red and raeko as green, how is Firearrow considered confirmed at all? Two of the three seers Brainy gave were false, nothing about this situation is "clear now" that he was "supplied accurate information from the seer." Brainy's colors are confirmed (by the host) 0/2, so it seems to me like there's a pretty good chance his one other claim was incorrect as well. Brainy lost literally all credibility with that whole fiasco over the last two phases.

You mention that Monika is a third party and doesn't have to team up with the wolves, which I guess is technically true. But at this point in the game I thought it was established that they were working together. Monika's chances of winning drop through the floor if they opt to betray the wolves and somehow aim to kill everyone. I'm not really following where you were going with that comment, but the basis behind it was wrong regardless.

Like Charu said, there's nothing we can do to dispute TZP until there's a counterclaim, if any. Log or not, no one is disputing him (also iirc Brainy supplied logs and we saw where that took us lol). At this point its just irresponsible to not claim, there's more to lose without it

holding off on my vote to give people more of a chance to counterclaim and for whatever egadd wants to say, but cmon

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hey. can everyone stop claiming seer? pls its hurting my brain

FA I'll wait for your logs before I ask anything specific, but as of right now its kinda your word against an uncontested seer claim. And while I know thats how it was with the BDS lynch last phase, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Egadd,your claim is confusing me too. Did you or did you not try and revive davy? bc as far as the phase update, he wasn't revived. Also, davy or not, why didn't you use your power last night phase? Even if you knew Brainy was the brutal there was no guarantee that he would have been wolfed last night, in fact I didn't expect him to be at all after that BDS flip. This day would have been a wolf-sided lynch if they're in contact with Monika, and using the revive would have prevented that

ninja'd by thc lol

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