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#61
Quote from: Bloop on February 16, 2022, 02:37:24 AMAt quick glance, I think this should be in F#m and not Bbm? It does have some weird alterations later on, but at least m1-12 are really F#m based.
The ending measures of the Mario Kart 64 Bowser's Castle theme sound like they're in B flat minor, so I think a key signature change partway through is best.
#62
Home-Made Compositions / Re: Dekkadeci's Compositions
February 08, 2022, 10:18:25 PM
Hopefully this sounds like it's for 2 hands - here's my newest composition, Etude in E Flat Major For the Left Hand ("Courtly Procession")!
#63
Forum Games / Re: The NSM Guess-That-Melody Quiz!
January 23, 2022, 04:57:45 AM
legoenthusiast, can you please use Google Drive or Dropbox to host files next time instead of Mediafire? I don't want to hit pop-up ads with every download, and also risk not downloading the file any time I click on the download link, unlike the experience I just got with Mediafire.
#64
Home-Made Compositions / Re: Dekkadeci's Compositions
January 06, 2022, 05:44:20 PM
Wonder how well I can compose a march in the style of Eric Coates (Dambusters March and friends)? Listen to my newest march, Forwards On!
#65
Piano Arrangements / Re: 607's Arrangements
January 04, 2022, 06:58:22 AM
Quote from: 607 on January 03, 2022, 08:09:07 AMMusic you find at Zophar's Domain isn't straight from the makers. Nevertheless, in my experience Game Boy rips from Zophar are usually accurate, and I have no doubt that these are. Also, VGMusic doesn't host rips, only fan-made MIDIs. These are not useful in the arrangement process except to novices, as indeed they usually are inaccurate.
That's not relevant to my question, though. When I previously used a rip in an arrangement, Levi and Maestro explained that this was not allowed. However, in that case I directly used the rip in my arrangement. This time, I 'only' used a WAV render of it. I did not even listen to the separate channels, let alone use MIDI data obtained from them. So I'm wondering if maybe this is allowed.
And if not, I would be curious what is, even though I don't think I'm ever going to do arrangements by listening to the tracks in the game itself once or twice, and then doing everything from memory. :P
I find listening to a rip (presumably ad nauseam) to be useless for transcription purposes compared to listening to the original ad nauseam. Rips are always less trustworthy than the original. When even renditions of the original uploaded by different users have differences (e.g. one sounds blurrier), what hope does a rip have?

If you're not looking at a rip, I personally find using it as a resource useless.

I hope you checked your work by listening to the original at least once. If your transcription and the original diverge too far, it really better be for good reason (and I generally accept only playability reasons). If your transcription sounds too little like the original, seriously reconsider publishing it. (I've shelved two of my transcriptions so far as a result.)

I personally do transcriptions of video game music I cannot find reliable sheet music and/or a reliable sound file (MIDI/.nsf) for by listening to a YouTube video of it as many times as necessary, picking out its parts by ear, and possibly octave-shifting those parts. In order to make the transcription playable, I often end up ignoring the quietest accompaniment parts. (I generally add extra repeated notes for drum beats because I value preserving the momentum of the original.) I generally listen to that video - or at least some portions of it - 5 or more times when transcribing for solo piano, often at 50% speed or even slower.

If what you mean by "rip" is YouTube video, then I apologize. My understanding of the word "rip" is that it means any attempt at transcription or rearrangement that does not involve simply recording the audio from the game.
#66
Piano Arrangements / Re: 607's Arrangements
January 01, 2022, 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: 607 on January 01, 2022, 09:05:10 AMI did listen to a rip very many times, including replaying one part a few times in a row, and in some cases playing back at half speed using Audacity's 'Change Tempo' effect.

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What do you think? Do these cross the line also?
The only rips I trust for transcription purposes are ones straight from the makers (e.g. the OST for the original Shovel Knight, the OST of early Incredible Machine games, Team Fortress 2 OST music, La-Mulana's OST, Cohen's Masterpiece from Bioshock, whatever .nsf's you can find at www.zophar.net). If the rip was fan-made, treat it with several grains of salt, especially the moment it diverges from the original music. (Let's put it this way: I generally cannot trust MIDIs from VGMusic after repeatedly finding inaccuracies in them.)
#67
Quote from: Fantastic Ike on January 01, 2022, 07:23:38 AMI'm a bit confused. Did you mean a regular quarter note? Because if it's a dotted quarter note then it bleeds over into the next eighth note, which doesn't sound rhythmically right to me.
Ah right, I agree with Kricketune54's sentiment that the note cannot be a quarter note like it is now, but I must have overlooked the precise note length mentioned. Yeah, change them to dotted 8th notes.

Also, dropping the difficulty of Bar 26 might be a good idea - just keep the top 3 notes of each 4-note chord there.

(Weird, now I hear the highest note at Beat 1 of Bar 23 as B in the original, too.)
#68
I agree with this from Kricketune54:
Quote from: Kricketune54 on December 31, 2021, 09:16:24 AM-When you have an eighth on beat 3,
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write it as a dotted quarter note instead of an eighth, this applies for a lot of the LH from m3 on for most of the first page, but I this might've just blended in

Some other adjustments I think should be made:
  • The countermelody in Bars 15-18 is quite prominent in the original, and I hear it much louder than your harmonization of those measures (to the point that those harmonizations in Bars 17-18 sound wrong). Here's what I hear for that countermelody, assuming we stick to using C flat major instead of B major (Bar 15 might actually be a good time to switch to B major (and possibly fail to change the key signature likewise), as the piece tonicizes G sharp minor/A flat minor and then keys with sharps in their key signature straight afterward):
    • Bar 15: G flat half note, A flat quarter note, B flat 8th note, C flat 8th note, all ascending
    • Bar 16: D flat half note, E flat quarter note, F flat quarter note, all ascending
    • Bar 17: G flat dotted quarter note, D flat 8th note, E flat dotted 8th note, F flat 16th note tied to 8th note, G flat 8th note
    • Bar 18: A double flat(!!) half note, G flat quarter note, F flat 8th note, D flat 8th note, all descending
  • We'd likewise avoid that awkwardness with accidentals (e.g. A natural-A flat-A natural in the same line) in Bar 21 if we switch to using sharps instead of flats there (and either ignoring the 4-flat key signature there or changing it).
  • I hear the highest note at Beat 1 of Bar 23 as D in the original instead of your B.
  • I'd say it's safer to make the F sharp in the inner line of Bar 24 a half note instead of a dotted quarter note (thus removing the tied G 8th note there); even at 0.5 and 0.25 speed, I hear the note straight after the cymbal crash at the start of Bar 24 of the original as F sharp instead of G, and the cymbal crash seems to take up less than an 8th note to me.
  • I hear the highest notes of the starting 16th note-16th note-8th note pattern of Bar 26 of the original as F sharp-G-F sharp instead of your B-C-B.
  • I hear the melody of Bar 33 as being two half notes in the original instead of your syncopated pattern in Beats 3-4.
  • Especially if we actually end up using double flats in Bar 18, I'd recommend using C double sharp instead of D natural in Bar 39 and F double sharp instead of G natural in Bar 40 (mainly to dodge twice-in-a-row-on-the-same-note-label accidental usage).
  • I hear the topmost notes of Beats 2.5-3.5 of Bar 41 as D sharp-F sharp-E in the original instead of your F sharp-G sharp-F sharp.
#69
Feedback / Re: Sheet Music Errors Thread
December 29, 2021, 05:22:17 AM
Quote from: Benjamin on December 28, 2021, 10:38:12 AMThis is what I encounter.
Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/lwEY7cU
As far as I can tell, the error message is actually for a text font, not a soundfont.
#70
Home-Made Compositions / Re: Dekkadeci's Compositions
December 09, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
Managed to make my second ballade - Ballade No. 2 in G Minor ("Winter Sojourn")! It depicts the story of a trip to the north to retrieve what had been lost. After a sizeable journey, what was lost is now found - but the price to find it may very well be too high.
#71
The annual public-domain Christmas carol arrangement for two piano players is back! This time, I've arranged Hark! The Herald Angels Sing for piano four hands!
#72
Feedback / Re: Submitted Score
November 22, 2021, 03:56:46 AM
That's unusual - I don't see your score in the Submissions board of this forum (or even the Piano Arrangements board). Are you sure you've submitted it in the right place?
#73
Here's my 6th monophonic video game theme transcription: "StarFighting Across the Universe" from Super Stardust HD, the level theme for the planet Lave!

My B♭ clarinet transcription of "StarFighting Across the Universe": https://musescore.com/user/9996931/scores/7125888


OK, pretend the video loops better.
#74
Home-Made Compositions / Re: Dekkadeci's Compositions
October 19, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
Like my sonata-allegros? Here's another one: Sonata-Allegro in C Minor ("In medias res")! Yes, it starts its recapitulation in the middle of the first theme group - hence the nickname "In medias res".
#75
I should have listened to this transcription back in your thread, Latios212.
  • I agree with Zeila on adding the harmonies to Bars 13-16. I actually think the harmonies get dropped in Bars 17-18, so I don't think those 2 measures need to be adjusted similarly.
  • Bar 20 actually mirrors Bar 4 less than you'd think - I don't hear the G above Middle C in the original for Bar 20 - the F above Middle C is a lot more prominent there.
  • I don't know whether your current set-up in Bar 40 is for ease of playing, but the "brass" harmonies actually start in Beat 4 there in the original, not Beat 4.5 like you currently have it.
  • Whenever I sing Bar 47, I sing the melody's (right hand) C note an octave above what you have written there (probably influenced by the high glissando there). While I do hear a lower C in Bar 47 in the original, it's actually a Middle C so I don't think you need to respect it. I'd also appreciate any nod towards the high glissando in Bars 47-48 - even substituting Bar 47's melody C note with the first part of the glissando would be enough.