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So wait you meant to say BDS instead of THC ?She was apologizing to BDS for not seeing his suspicion of you, she just happened to say it in the same post as her explaining it was a general statement.
Ma'am, I literally posted a suspicion list yesterday with Toby at the top spotI was thinking about that. Plus the fact she said it like my suspicion on him was a new development and not something that had been developing more and more for over a phase.
Hahaha just because we are at a point where allowing ourselves as normal humans to die is a benefit, doesn’t mean I can’t ask you to give reasons for your vote to avoid you just saying your suspicious because of vibes / or for literally responding to you lol
You and I both know BDS has enough experience under his belt to play smarter than that. I highly doubt that he would actively try and get his cold target lynched, especially as the person leading the lynch train, if he were the blue assassin. There's definitely a possibility, albeit small imo, that he could be the red assassin, but I don't see BDS making that play as blue assassin. I understand Xiao agreeing with you there because they don't have as much experience to know that would be a bad play, but I know you're a veteran. Even more of a veteran than me. You trying to make BDS look suspicious for that makes me even more suspicious of you.I have literally given more examples and thoughts than just "bad vibes" for why I'm suspicious of you, one such example quoted above. I'm not going to repeat all those same things while at work because mobile sucks for making tons of quotes
THC I’m curious as to why given your reasoning on math, why math was red number 2 but poet was only neutral in your suspicion list when they had contributed much the same?Easy. Poet is brand new to the game, plus her status as new to the forum also gave me little to go off of. However, math was introduced to us by TZP as a smart person (with experience in the game as well?). TZP even called them out on their suspicious behavior earlier in the game. I felt it made sense with all that info to hold them to a higher standard than someone who's brand new.
THC you started neutral on me and then me literally responding to you got you more and more suspicious lol. Do you want to give any content as to why you’re suspicious?I mean, I've already explained multiple times why I got even more suspicious of you, but with this new phase and your new posts, I can add something else. As I said before, it is now a 2/3 chance anyone who doesn't know their role is a ward and therefore should be ok with being lynched. Couple that with the fact I'm fairly confident you're not a hot target, it's very suspicious that you're still so adamantly defending yourself.
So, statistically speaking, anyone still alive who was told they're a normal townie has a 2/3 chance of being a ward. That being said, if push comes to shove and more people think I should be lynched than Toby, then I will go down willingly on the odds I'm a ward and can take an assassin with me. However, I still think Toby should be under serious suspicion today.In fact, I doubt I will change my mind about Toblerone being the best lynch candidate, so I'm going to vote for him now just to get it out of the way.
...hm. Well, to be fair, you hosted the first revival game and died N1 in my game, so I can't say I've seen examples of your recent play. I can only speak to how I'd react to your play from any generic player.I suppose it has been awhile since we've played together.
- ThatHiddenCharacter: Been acting weird for most of the game, and when I brought up that I didn't feel he was making optimal town plays, he doubled down on it.This is literally how I've always played, regardless of my role. Maybe my rationale doesn't make much sense to everyone else, but it makes sense to me.
So in your mind, choosing to lynch someone you think is human is preferable to having a KitB between someone you think is a human and someone you think is an assassin?I never claimed to think davy was a human. I said I could him going either way.
no control over the lynchThis is not what I said. I said no control over the outcome. As in the outcome of the random selection between the two. Even if it's more control than random selection of all players, it's still less control than we should have in this.
I don’t really follow this reasoning still or know what ‘assassins objectively have a lot more info’ has to do with itIt has everything to do with it. The only town players with any info are the hot targets. Everyone else has nothing they know to be 100% true. Yet each assassin knows three people's roles: their ward, their cold target, and themselves. That makes it almost a 50% chance they will kill one of the roles they want dead and don't know which player they are. We are in a very tight spot in town and letting random chance dictate any aspect of the game, even if small, is a bad idea. We need as much control of the situation as we can get.
But I still don’t see why you’d prefer to lynch someone else over letting your number 2 suspicion be in a KITb, I literally don’t see the benefit to that.The assassins objectively have a lot more info than town does right now. We need to have as much control over the situation as we can. A KitB is randomly chosen, ergo no control over the outcome. I'd rather lynch someone I'm neutral on than let us lose control over the lynch. Keeping the KitB would've still had a 50% chance of killing davy anyway. I'm still concerned about you, Toby, but I still think math should be lynched this coming day phase.
THC's behavior is glaringly suspicious, there's no doubt about that, but my worry is that he's acting too obviously suspicious. He's unapologetically going full throttle down the route of "I'm doing suspicious stuff and I know the stuff I'm doing is suspicious" that I can't help but feel he's deliberately trying to get himself lynched—maybe he's doing what TZP is doing and intentionally trying to make himself a target because he knows he isn't a hot target (and given his strange behavior toward me in PMs, maybe he's hoping he's actually a ward), or maybe he's doing crazy reverse psychology as an assassin to try and get the other assassin to avoid night killing him and avoid lynching by just confusing the hell out of everybody.I really don't understand why you think I'm intentionally trying to be suspicious. I legit am making plays I think are the best courses of action.
Regardless, I don't think he's doing optimal town play.
also a#'s behavior has seemed pretty susWhat about her behavior is sus? I actually feel better about her now than I did before. She's started more actively participating and providing input. If it's because she's sus of you, it's (typically) bad practice to throw suspicion on someone just because they're suspicious of you. More often than not, that's a very wolfy thing to do, unless you had already been showing suspicion towards the person beforehand. If that's not the case, then I would like to hear the actual reasoning.
Why do I feel like BDS only pretty much gunned for 1 person all day today and now turns out they were a blue cold target :^)You and I both know BDS has enough experience under his belt to play smarter than that. I highly doubt that he would actively try and get his cold target lynched, especially as the person leading the lynch train, if he were the blue assassin. There's definitely a possibility, albeit small imo, that he could be the red assassin, but I don't see BDS making that play as blue assassin. I understand Xiao agreeing with you there because they don't have as much experience to know that would be a bad play, but I know you're a veteran. Even more of a veteran than me. You trying to make BDS look suspicious for that makes me even more suspicious of you.
