[WiiU] Paper Mario: Color Splash - "The Juggler (Piano)" by Radiak488417

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Submission Information:
Series: Paper Mario
Game: Paper Mario: Color Splash
Console: Wii U
Title: The Juggler (Piano)
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Radiak488417

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[Radiak488417]

Been meaning to submit this one for a while. The swing text doesn't work because Notepad, so if someone could fix that for me I'd appreciate it.

[Latios212]

Will grab formatting/playback stuff later! Just checking notes for now, this looks great overall
- m. 5/13 first RH note sounds like just a D# (no B below)
- m. 9 missing an F on beat 4.
- It sounds like the upper G in m. 11 is just held over from m. 10 instead of struck again
- Use F# instead of Gb in m. 15-16
- I think it might be good to remove the lower octave in m. 21/25 similar to 23 to make it easier to play after the grace note
- For these places (m. 21/23/25) I think it would be better to slur to the tied note instead of the first melody note on beat 1.5
- C# instead of Db grace note in m. 24
- Fx instead of Gn in m. 30
- Not sure I hear the LH E in m. 32 beat 4?
- Beat 3.5-4 should be disconnected in m. 33/35/37 RH. Similar in m. 47
- D# instead of Eb in m. 38
- The 16th notes in m. 44 would be better written as grace notes

Also, I'm not sure about the key change... would like someone else to weigh in on that

[Radiak488417]

- It sounds like the upper G in m. 11 is just held over from m. 10 instead of struck again

I'm pretty clearly hearing this note re-articulated, seems like we need another set of ears.

- The 16th notes in m. 44 would be better written as grace notes

Notepad can't do grace notes, so I guess I need someone else to do this.

Got everything else I think! (except the key change)

[Latios212]

Okay, great! I updated the file with the swing playback, grace notes, as well as text/margin/spacing adjustments as per usual.

Approving given the next person to review checks the following:
1 - Viability of key signature change
2 - The below part

- It sounds like the upper G in m. 11 is just held over from m. 10 instead of struck again

I'm pretty clearly hearing this note re-articulated, seems like we need another set of ears.

[mastersuperfan]

Nice sheet, some more note checking from me:
- m3 RH beat 3.5 should also have an A.
- The G in m11 definitely seems held over rather than re-articulated. If you slow the audio down, there is a G-like pitch on beat 3, but IMO it's hard to notice and doesn't really sound like the piano note being re-articulated.
- m20 RH beat 2.5 is missing a C#. I also don't think that the F# in the RH is there, but it's hard to tell for certain.
- m21 LH beat 2 also has an F on top.
- m23 RH beat 4 also has a D at the bottom. (Also maybe beat 3 very faintly, not sure.)
- m24 RH beat 1 has an E at the bottom, although it's really faint, so not sure if worth including.
- m24 LH beat 2 bottom note should be a D, instead of a C#.
- m25 RH beat 1.5 also has an F on the bottom.
- m28 RH beat 1 might have a C# on the bottom, hard to tell.
- m28 RH beat 2.5 (G#) should also have an E below it.
- m28 LH beat 2 top note should be an A, instead of a B.
- m33 LH beat 2 has an F# on top.
- m37 LH beat 2 has an E on top.
- I don't think any of m37 beat 2 LH, m37 beat 4 LH, or m38 beat 2 LH have the bottom E. (m38 beat 4 LH does, however.)
- m40 LH beat 2 has an C# on the bottom.
- m40 LH beat 2 and beat 4 and m41 LH beat 2 (but not beat 4) all have D's on top. Same goes for m43-44 as well.

[Radiak488417]

Nice sheet, some more note checking from me:
- m3 RH beat 3.5 should also have an A.
- The G in m11 definitely seems held over rather than re-articulated. If you slow the audio down, there is a G-like pitch on beat 3, but IMO it's hard to notice and doesn't really sound like the piano note being re-articulated.
- m20 RH beat 2.5 is missing a C#. I also don't think that the F# in the RH is there, but it's hard to tell for certain.
- m21 LH beat 2 also has an F on top.
- m23 RH beat 4 also has a D at the bottom. (Also maybe beat 3 very faintly, not sure.)
- m24 RH beat 1 has an E at the bottom, although it's really faint, so not sure if worth including.
- m24 LH beat 2 bottom note should be a D, instead of a C#.
- m25 RH beat 1.5 also has an F on the bottom.
- m28 RH beat 1 might have a C# on the bottom, hard to tell.
- m28 RH beat 2.5 (G#) should also have an E below it.
- m28 LH beat 2 top note should be an A, instead of a B.
- m33 LH beat 2 has an F# on top.
- m37 LH beat 2 has an E on top.
- I don't think any of m37 beat 2 LH, m37 beat 4 LH, or m38 beat 2 LH have the bottom E. (m38 beat 4 LH does, however.)
- m40 LH beat 2 has an C# on the bottom.
- m40 LH beat 2 and beat 4 and m41 LH beat 2 (but not beat 4) all have D's on top. Same goes for m43-44 as well.

- Added.
- Now that I'm listening to it I think that re-articulation I'm hearing might just be an overtone from the low Eb. Working with layers in Notepad
is practically impossible so if someone could tie the note over I'd appreciate it.
- Added.
- Hmmm... I think I'd rather omit that, it's extremely quiet and it's a pretty massive reach anyways.
- Added, I only hear the one on beat 4.
- Yeah that's super faint, I don't think it warrants being notated.
- Good catch, fixed.
- I had it there originally, Latios suggested earlier in the thread that I remove it in order to play the grace note more easily.
- I don't hear a C# here.
- Added.
- Fixed.
- Similar to m21, that F# is really quiet and I feel adds some unnecessary difficulty to the piece.
- ^
- Fixed.
- Added.
- I can't hear any of these notes, if someone else can hear them then I'll add them.

[mastersuperfan]

- I had it there originally, Latios suggested earlier in the thread that I remove it in order to play the grace note more easily.
- Similar to m21, that F# is really quiet and I feel adds some unnecessary difficulty to the piece.
- ^

All fair points; leaving them out is probably better.

- I can't hear any of these notes, if someone else can hear them then I'll add them.

I think I meant m41-42 instead of m40-41. That said, I took another listen and I don't really hear them anymore (just overtones, probably?) so it's all good.

I myself am not 100% sure about the key signature changes either. They seem fine because there would be a ton of accidentals flying around without them, but the key signature changes also happen at some pretty awkward/unexpected spots (i.e. not at the beginning/end of a phrase). I'll poke someone more knowledgable in theory for another opinion and get back to you soon, and after that I'll accept.

[Static]

The key should be Cmaj throughout. The modulating section doesn't sit in a new key, it acts as more of a long detour back to C major.

[Latios212]

I think that makes sense in the end. Updated the file with that, as well as the tied G in m. 11.

All good to go now!

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