[GCN] F-Zero GX - "Infinite Blue (Big Blue)" by Static

Started by Zeta, July 01, 2020, 12:45:35 PM

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Zeta

Submission Information:

Series: F-Zero
Game: F-Zero GX
Console: Nintendo GameCube
Title: Infinite Blue (Big Blue)
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Static

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mastersuperfan

- Seems like m1 should be the same as m3/5/7/etc. but for some reason it's different
- I'm hearing a very different rhythm in the bass from m5-11 and m13-19 (and from m29 onward). Is what you have an intentional simplification/modification? The rests you have on beat 4 every other measure feel a bit out of place.
- m21 LH beat 1 sounds like G (eighth) - D (sixteenth) - low G (sixteenth), instead of dotted eighth - sixteenth.
- m25 LH beats 1-2 sound like G (eighth) - low G (eighth) - low G (eighth) - low G (eighth tied to beat 3).
- In m22/24/26/28 LH beats 1-2, I don't think the bass actually jumps up an octave; I think something else is just doubling the notes on top of the bass there. (same for m54/56/58/etc.)
- m24 and m28 LH beat 2.5 sounds like an F instead of a C. (same for m56/60/etc.)
- m45-47 and m49-51 LH beat 4 sounds like 8th-16th-16th (G-F-G) instead of dotted 8th - 16th.
- m48 LH beat 4 sounds like a G instead of an F.
- m53 LH beat 1 sounds like G (dotted eighth) - D (sixteenth).
- m57 and m65 LH beats 1.75 and 2 sound like they shouldn't be tied.
- Is there any particular reason m64 RH beat 1.75 doesn't have a second note under the melody?
- RH pickup to m71 sounds like two consecutive sixteenths (i.e. an extra 16th on m70 beat 4.5 where you have a rest).
- Sounds like there might be some extra harmonies under the melody in m85-92 RH (i.e. following the same rhythm as the melody), although they're kind of hard to hear.
- Did you want to use an 8vb for pages 7 and 8? Seems strange not to use one considering that the LH there goes just as low as m21-28 does.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 11, 2016, 03:00:36 PMthere's also a huge difference in quality between 2000 songs and 2010 songs
Quote from: Latios212 on February 11, 2016, 03:29:24 PMThe difference between 2000 songs and 2010 songs is 10 songs.

Static

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- Seems like m1 should be the same as m3/5/7/etc. but for some reason it's different
That's because it is different, only in that measure. Even slowed down and at a higher octave, that one G sounds like it should be in the upper octave instead.

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- I'm hearing a very different rhythm in the bass from m5-11 and m13-19 (and from m29 onward). Is what you have an intentional simplification/modification? The rests you have on beat 4 every other measure feel a bit out of place.
What I have is a transcription of the bass part, with the exception of the 16th notes on beat 2 (those come from the guitar), and also added 5ths to match up with the guitar. I added an extra note on beat 4 of those measures.

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- In m22/24/26/28 LH beats 1-2, I don't think the bass actually jumps up an octave; I think something else is just doubling the notes on top of the bass there. (same for m54/56/58/etc.)
Hm, maybe, listening again makes me think the Bb doesn't really show up in the bass at all. I kinda like the sound that it has though, since the Bb doesn't come up very often in this part. I think I'll keep it as is.

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- m45-47 and m49-51 LH beat 4 sounds like 8th-16th-16th (G-F-G) instead of dotted 8th - 16th.
I don't hear this.

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- m53 LH beat 1 sounds like G (dotted eighth) - D (sixteenth).
I actually hear this as just 2 8th notes, but fixed.

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- Is there any particular reason m64 RH beat 1.75 doesn't have a second note under the melody?
The LH part.

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- Sounds like there might be some extra harmonies under the melody in m85-92 RH (i.e. following the same rhythm as the melody), although they're kind of hard to hear.
The instrument sounds like it would have harmonies cuz of the breathiness, but there aren't actually any as far as I can tell.

Everything else has been fixed accordingly.

mastersuperfan

Quote from: Static on July 28, 2020, 02:45:43 PMThat's because it is different, only in that measure. Even slowed down and at a higher octave, that one G sounds like it should be in the upper octave instead.
Hm, the notes in m1 sound the same as the notes in m3 to me, even slowed down and transposed up/down an octave.

Quote from: Static on July 28, 2020, 02:45:43 PMI added an extra note on beat 4 of those measures.
This also needs to be added to m29-34.

Quote from: Static on July 28, 2020, 02:45:43 PMHm, maybe, listening again makes me think the Bb doesn't really show up in the bass at all. I kinda like the sound that it has though, since the Bb doesn't come up very often in this part. I think I'll keep it as is.
I was thinking about maybe bringing the Bb down an octave. If you like the octave it's currently in, then that's good too.

Quote from: Static on July 28, 2020, 02:45:43 PMI actually hear this as just 2 8th notes, but fixed.
I'm still hearing it as dotted 8th - 16th. I think the 8th-note rhythm you're hearing might be coming from the percussion on beat 1.5.

Aside from the change in m29-34, I approve as long as a third person can provide their input on whether they hear the following things:
Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 25, 2020, 11:53:07 AM- Seems like m1 should be the same as m3/5/7/etc. but for some reason it's different
- m45-47 and m49-51 LH beat 4 sounds like 8th-16th-16th (G-F-G) instead of dotted 8th - 16th.
- m53 LH beat 1 sounds like G (dotted eighth) - D (sixteenth).
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 11, 2016, 03:00:36 PMthere's also a huge difference in quality between 2000 songs and 2010 songs
Quote from: Latios212 on February 11, 2016, 03:29:24 PMThe difference between 2000 songs and 2010 songs is 10 songs.

Maelstrom

I hear the G in the lower octave in m1 .....

For m45+, I was able to hear the b4.5 16th note, but was not able to discern what not it was playing at all until m49. In that measure and m51, I heard the F as MSF described. However, I heard the 16th as a G in m50. Hope this helps.

I hear what static has for m53 LH.

Otherwise, it sounds and looks fine.

Static

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 28, 2020, 06:16:55 PMHm, the notes in m1 sound the same as the notes in m3 to me, even slowed down and transposed up/down an octave.
Quote from: Maelstrom on July 29, 2020, 02:44:33 PMI hear the G in the lower octave in m1 .....
Fixed.

Quote from: mastersuperfan on July 28, 2020, 06:16:55 PMThis also needs to be added to m29-34.
Done.

Quote from: Maelstrom on July 29, 2020, 02:44:33 PMFor m45+, I was able to hear the b4.5 16th note, but was not able to discern what not it was playing at all until m49. In that measure and m51, I heard the F as MSF described. However, I heard the 16th as a G in m50. Hope this helps.
I actually hear it how msf had it now, with the F in 45-47, but I also hear it in 49-50 with the F too. I don't hear it in 51.

Maelstrom

I'll take it. If MSF is fine with this, then I'll accept.

mastersuperfan

Took another listen—I hear it the way Static has it now, except I actually don't hear the F in m49. What do you think?

In m1, I still hear the F on beat 3.5 an octave down very clearly. @Mael what about you?

In the end, I'm happy to go with whatever.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 11, 2016, 03:00:36 PMthere's also a huge difference in quality between 2000 songs and 2010 songs
Quote from: Latios212 on February 11, 2016, 03:29:24 PMThe difference between 2000 songs and 2010 songs is 10 songs.

Maelstrom

I hear the F as written. this was discussed overdiscord, so i have MSF's approval to accept, which I shall

Zeta

This submission has been accepted by Maelstrom.

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