What key/time signature is this song in?

Started by The Deku Trombonist, March 24, 2013, 03:27:01 PM

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WaluigiTime64

I'm seeing a ton of flat opportunities in the LH (I saw F and C Minor), but a ton of sharp opportunities in the RH. It really depends on each individual measure.
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Sounds like A minor to me (at least in the first ten seconds).
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WaluigiTime64

Quote from: mastersuperfan on March 11, 2017, 01:37:02 PMSounds like A minor to me (at least in the first ten seconds).
It's A Minor throughout the piece (I think).
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Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on March 11, 2017, 01:41:06 PMIt's A Minor throughout the piece (I think).
Definitely A minor throughout. No doubt about it.
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Bespinben

Hitchhikers Guide to Minor Key Accidentals:
1 - diatonic
b2 - parallel Phrygian
2 - diatonic
b3 - diatonic
3 - Picardy 3rd
4 - diatonic
#4 - 3rd of V/V secondary dominant (note: b5 is uncommon)
5 - diatonic
b6 - diatonic
6 - parallel Dorian
b7 - diatonic
7 - raised 7th of harmonic minor
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Altissimo

general tendency is chromatic lower/upper neighbors take on the form of the lower note (ex. E-D#-E rather than E-Eb-E), ascending scales take sharps, descending scales take flats.

other general rule of thumb. look at any vertical harmony. if it can be spelled as a series of thirds rather than something else (ex. A C# E versus A Db E), give it the thirds treatment.

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Wait, Ben's post is starting to make some sense...
So it would be (for, say, an A scale)
A, Bb, B, Cb(?), C, D, D#, E, Fb(?), F, Gb, G?
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Olimar12345

Rip Ben's really useful chart. Now do enharmonics

@Egadd: yes, the numbers in Ben's post correlate with the letter names in a scale, ascending. Numbers are useful because you can apply them to any key by simply making tonic 1.
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Brassman388

Quote from: Bespinben on March 11, 2017, 02:01:43 PMHitchhikers Guide to Minor Key Accidentals:
1 - diatonic
b2 - parallel Phrygian
2 - diatonic
b3 - diatonic
3 - Picardy 3rd
4 - diatonic
#4 - 3rd of V/V secondary dominant (note: b5 is uncommon)
5 - diatonic
b6 - diatonic
6 - parallel Dorian
b7 - diatonic
7 - raised 7th of harmonic minor

Nice.

Also, I'm going to need some harmonies, but from just glancing at it, those E-sharps can be written as F-naturals. Basic melodic writing says that if you have a line going up, and there's an altered note, say, sharped, then it continues upward, then it should be written as a sharp. BUT, if you have a sharped note, then the line immediately goes down, then it would be wise to flat that note instead. For instance, the third to the last bar, you have a D-sharp going to a D-natural. Now, if harmonically there's a D-sharp in the spelling, then it's pretty kosher to keep it a D-sharp, but not always for the sake of the performer. But if it's just an altered tone having nothing to do with the harmonic spelling whatsoever, then I would go ahead and write it as an E-flat to a D-natural.

Does this make sense?

LuxraySpiral


I'm convinced it starts off as G major, but it doesn't use any F#s, only F neutrals, so it might actually be C major. (The same goes for the Bb/Eb at the end)

Then comes the problem about the timing of the modulation. 0:23 and 0:35 are my two possibilities at the moment (I'm leaning towards the 0:35)

What does you guys think?
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