[NES] Shin Onigashima - "First Chapter: At Home" by WandringMinstrel

Started by Zeta, September 02, 2015, 12:47:55 PM

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Zeta

Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: Shin Onigashima
Console: Nintendo Entertainment System
Title: First Chapter: At Home
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: WandringMinstrel

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Tobbeh99

Hello! Great arrangement! :)

First of you can take a look at the formatting guidelines.
Then after that you can take a look at the changes I did to your "Title" arrangement, many of the changes applies to this sheet as well.

Don't know if the title should be "First Chapter ~Inside the House~" instead of what now "Chapter 2: At Home". I have only seen a title to this theme in 2 sources, and that was in 2 youtube videos. Both said "First Chapter ~Inside the House~" so I guess that makes it more convincing as a title.

And also don't know what the game name should be as stated in your other submission.

Here's a youtube link for reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvkTAOe4M2A&index=3&list=PLfUvsxulQQd92HwSBDFMJvO1uj-FHY0OU
Quote from: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
tfw you get schooled in English grammar by a guy whose first language is not English

10/10 tobbeh

WandringMinstrel

As with "Title BGM", I edited it to be in line with the standard format. Let me know if it's all good.
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WandringMinstrel

My other submission (Shin Onigashima - Title BGM), that I sent in at the same time as this, was accepted a while ago, but this one still hasn't. How long does this usually take? If there's an issue with the score still, let me know.
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Tobbeh99

I think I responded to your question in this thread: http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=2482.615

But it really depends, but usually it takes a while even for the updaters to view your arrangement and give feedback. If you look at my submissions, I'm still waiting for anyone to give feedback on those. :-\

This one looks very good at least, the formatting is perfect, note spelling correct and good use of articulations and repeat.
One thing that needs to be considered is the clef use in the left hand. The accompaniment lies in a tricky spot between the treble-clef and the bass-clef, I don't know if there is a way to notate it better than what you've got, maybe with less clef changes.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
tfw you get schooled in English grammar by a guy whose first language is not English

10/10 tobbeh

WandringMinstrel

Thanks for getting back to me, I must have missed the response in the other thread. That sounds fair, if business is swamped right now then I get that there's a backlog for processing submissions. I was just a little antsy since I'm sitting on a bunch of arrangements right now.

As for clef changes, yeah, there really isn't a significantly better way since too much 8va in the left hand staff is even worse. I've personally never had much issue with clef changes, so I imagine the barrier isn't too high.
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Bespinben

Quote from: Tobbeh99 on September 13, 2015, 04:44:20 AMThe accompaniment lies in a tricky spot between the treble-clef and the bass-clef, I don't know if there is a way to notate it better than what you've got, maybe with less clef changes.
Quote from: WandringMinstrel on September 13, 2015, 05:48:29 AMAs for clef changes, yeah, there really isn't a significantly better way since too much 8va in the left hand staff is even worse. I've personally never had much issue with clef changes, so I imagine the barrier isn't too high.

This situation is EXACTLY what cross-staff notation is designed for.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 04, 2015, 12:05:12 PM
Someone beat Bespinben to making PMD music?! GASP!

MLF for Chatroom Mod next Tuesday

WandringMinstrel

#7
Cross-staff notation was the first thing I tried, but I found that it really doesn't apply in this case. The left hand spends more time in the treble range (especially in the B section) and only occasionally jumps down to the bass range. Having both hands on a single staff for most of the piece, with only the odd measure down in the second staff would make the arrangement cluttered and less legible. Even in the A section where the left hand is more in the bass with occasional measure-long forays into treble, crossing the staves would be more visually confusing than just switching clefs. I can see maybe a couple of spots where crossing the bass line into the top staff could be useful, but even then it risks obfuscating which hand should be playing, since it occurs when the right hand has rests before a pickup.

I tried out a few different things, actually. Continually crossing staves clutters the top staff, not changing clefs leads to excessive ledger lines, and the left hand doesn't leap between ranges frequently enough to justify a third staff. Clef changes, though frequent and perhaps unsightly to some, are what I considered to be the most readable and effective.

If you have any other suggestions, something I might have missed, please let me know! I'll certainly take another look at the arrangement if it's something that could help.
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Bespinben

Well, you seem confident in how you want your sheet to look, and that's definitely something I respect.

Quote from: Nebbles on July 04, 2015, 12:05:12 PM
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Zeta