TWG CII: Srcmalbed Eggs

[Maelstrom]

not really I'm tired tbh and had stuff to do that I'm not doing

[FireArrow]

The power roles should absolutely be using all their powers tonight and should target whoever theyre most suspicious of. Claiming should only happen on a lylo phase.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

The power roles should absolutely be using all their powers tonight and should target whoever theyre most suspicious of. Claiming should only happen on a lylo phase.

Thoughts:
Only the seer and the vigi are going to know who they are once they've used their powers. Should the guardian/roleblocker still continue to use their powers afterwards? There's a pretty good chance that, if they do keep using their powers, they could end up shooting ourselves in the foot by accidentally roleblocking a special.

[Dudeman]

All special roles will receive a response following the use of their power.

[E. Gadd Industries]

Lotsa stuff being thrown around! I'll post my thoughts later tonight; this is literally the only downtime I've had ALL DAY (I'm at this event registering for classes today and half of tomorrow for my first semester of college).

[Brawler4Ever]

So then with toby's self-vote plan, the vigi is dead and we have 3 specials that know who they are starting Day 1. That leaves a 100% chance of hitting a special, and 0% of hitting a wolf.

The other option is, as FireArrow said, to let the specials hit whoever they want. imo this option is less risky. From the vigi's perspective, it leaves a 3/9 chance of hitting a special and 2/9 chance of hitting a wolf. yes, we may lose one of the specials, but we could also hit a wolf. I'd say that that's worth it.

[Toby]

Did you even acknowledge my post?

Yes but you basically repeated FireArrow so there wasn't anything extra to comment on.
It also confused me:

a Vigi could be majorly beneficial to us. Saying that it'd be better off without one, just to identify the specials roles when the wolves could literally scramble the roles before their is even a chance to use them

 the wolves can't scramble the roles before people have a chance to use them, and it doesn't cancel them either so I don't know what you're saying here

[Toby]

The power roles should absolutely be using all their powers tonight and should target whoever theyre most suspicious of. Claiming should only happen on a lylo phase.

Lylo is 3 v 2 though, and we could get a claim at 6 v 2 the previous day, saving us from lynching a special, and maximise the chances of catching a wolf using abilities rather than everyone targeting the same person

[Toby]

So then with toby's self-vote plan, the vigi is dead and we have 3 specials that know who they are starting Day 1. That leaves a 100% chance of hitting a special, and 0% of hitting a wolf.

The other option is, as FireArrow said, to let the specials hit whoever they want. imo this option is less risky. From the vigi's perspective, it leaves a 3/9 chance of hitting a special and 2/9 chance of hitting a wolf. yes, we may lose one of the specials, but we could also hit a wolf. I'd say that that's worth it.

Other option could mean vigi possibly kills two humans though, are you ok with a vigi shooting twice between night 1 and night 2?

[Toby]

It's a little concerning that there hasn't been more discussion on this when the phase ends in 3 hours and our specials are potentially asleep already/unable to change their night actions

[Dudeman]

Three hour warning.

[FireArrow]

Lylo is 3 v 2 though, and we could get a claim at 6 v 2 the previous day, saving us from lynching a special, and maximise the chances of catching a wolf using abilities rather than everyone targeting the same person

Claiming = wolves use scramble and one of them dies. Then we run into the same n1 problem where we dont know who the vigi is.

[Toby]

Claiming = wolves use scramble and one of them dies. Then we run into the same n1 problem where we dont know who the vigi is.

Wolf wouldn't need to use scramble for one of them to die. And scramble is inevitable, I don't know why that raises any concerns towards claiming

[Toby]

If any special is unsure of what to do, it seems like the people that felt like talking have agreed that specials should use their powers on people they find suspicious and likely to be a wolf. Do not use your power on anyone you don't want to die, but you also must use your power. goodluck

[mikey]

this is me trying to say something intelligent for posterity like FA and toby but failing