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#1
Awesome sheet! I wrote this one out a long time ago but this is definitely neater for playing than my old one is. Here are my comments:

- The arpeggios in the original in first half of m. 5 outline Dm7 and G7b9 chords. How would you feel about incorporating those additional notes into the left hand? (e.g. play the seventh on beat 1.25/2.25 instead)
- In the second half of m. 6 (RH), the secondary voice jumping above the melody seems a bit disorienting to me on piano, despite them being laid out that way in the original. Thoughts on inverting downwards to keep the main melody on top as it is everywhere else?
- m. 12 beat 2 RH is actually a triplet beginning on D - did you intentionally simplify this to make it easier to lead into the tremolo?
- m. 15 LH beat 2: I hear G-G# instead of G#-A
- m. 16 LH beat 4.5: I hear another low G here
- m. 18 LH: I hear G on beat 1 and the octave of beats 2-2.5 flipped (I suppose this would apply to the coda measure as well)
#2
Quote from: Bloop on May 09, 2024, 02:06:49 AMHmm, that would make sense theoretically (I do hear the F in the harp on beat 2), but I would've suspected that the low F would have a similar attack to the piano notes afterwards too, but the Ab seems to have that attack instead. I think I'd rather keep the low Ab in the R.H. and the F in the L.H., so that it's easier to have that Ab accentuated.
Ah, I mostly just meant to point out that the melody is supposed to be F here :P voicing it in this way makes sense to play!

Quote from: Bloop on May 09, 2024, 02:06:49 AMI admittedly have used them a bit more in this sheet than I've done in others, but I wanted to show that these voices are not necessary for the arrangement to sound good, while keeping them available for more advanced players that do want to include them if they choose to. I don't play the L.H. small notes in m63-78 for example, and don't play the R.H. small notes in m63-70 to contrast them with m71-78.
Alrighty, fine by me!

Nothing more from me I think, this looks good ^^
#3
Feedback / Re: Sheet Music Errors Thread
May 12, 2024, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: MomoQca on April 10, 2024, 05:18:24 PMNoticed a playback error on "MNN+@0・ (Ma-non Ship (Day))" where it kept repeating endlessly. I fixed it so that it only loops once. Could someone please update the files? Thanks in advance!
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And sharing this one, just in case!
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Hey! It doesn't look like I have access to files, but if the playback is the only thing wrong I can just edit the existing file on site. I've changed the DC at the end to only jump on first pass and updated the file on site - see if that's good!

Quote from: Fullmetalgrudo on April 08, 2024, 09:07:29 AMHello :)

In the first seven measures of Metroid Prime's Chozo Artifact Temple, the E just under the fifth line of the staff which appears twice in the pattern on the right hand should be a D for the first seven measures.
Fixed this along with:
- https in URL
- "and" in composer info
- Measure number positioning
- A bit of staff spacing and margin work
- Removal of octave clefs
- Corrected some incorrectly flipped notes
- Adjusted some rhythm groupings
- Removed 8va in left hand



The others mentioned above will be fixed soon too! Sorry for the wait!
#4
Time for some more France :)

#5
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on April 15, 2024, 02:15:51 PMYeah, the on-site sheet is rough--thanks for doing this one, Sunshine music rules. Per the 35th anniversary release of the soundtrack, I believe this one is called "Proto Piranha".
Quote from: Fantastic Ike on April 16, 2024, 06:57:40 AMHmm, okay. Finding the official names of any Mario track is a bit sketchy so I wasn't sure. We'll see what the updaters have to say :)
I booted up Super Mario 3D All-Stars (RIP Mario) and "Proto Piranha" is indeed correct. Unless there are any other earlier official sources that conflict, we should use that title.

But... the music player does an interesting thing. The track before this in the player is "Mid-Boss" (with a hyphen) which sounds the same aside from the intro. When I play the track listed as "Proto Piranha" in the music player, it plays the version you arranged, but fades out after 15 seconds or so, presumably because the rest is the same as the previous track.

So, thoughts about combining both into one sheet - just writing out and labeling both intros at the beginning and calling the sheet something like "Mid-Boss & Proto Piranha" or "Mid-Boss / Proto Piranha"?

FWIW, the track after, "Phantamanta", is largely the same structurally but does have some differences in instrumentation, so it plays the entire track.
#6
Ooh, great sheet! I had never really stopped to think about this piece before, but knowing Rhea, this piece has a lot of depth to it...

Quote from: Bloop on April 13, 2024, 11:50:50 AMIn places where the R.H. doesn't have anything to do (like m1-6) I know it's possible for it to play the missing F5's on beat 2, but I left them out for consistency.
You could always just have the left hand play F4 instead (on top of the existing triad). I think the resulting 4-note chord is pretty comfortable to play and doesn't add a lot of difficulty (don't think it's too reliant on hand size either? It's just a good position). But if you want to keep triads that's fine too.

- In m. 33, I think beat 2 RH should be an F octave and the Ab is part of the LH dyad instead.
- I can sorta get why the high notes are small to indicate they're somewhat embellishments, but is there any reason for the lower voice harmony in m. 47+ (and LH in m. 63+) to be small notes? I don't mind the use of small notes for embellishments in general but they seem unnecessary here. They're just part of the music, intended to be played, and already differentiated by being in a different voice.
#7
Awesome! Looks good to me then :)

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#8
Quote from: Bloop on May 02, 2024, 02:30:16 AMIf it was purely for visual highlighting, you could also do something like this:
In which the player can still decide to play with the R.H. if they want. Keeping it as is is fine too though, in which the player can still decide to play it with the L.H., haha
Yeah I think I'd still prefer to keep it as is, it makes the most sense to me separated on the other staff :P

Quote from: Bloop on May 02, 2024, 02:30:16 AMI can kinda hear the pitches in the original, but much less the actual attack of the notes, which makes me think they're overtone shenanigans. The difference isn't particularly big though, so I don't mind if you leave them in. Upon listening this part again I do think I hear a Bn above the L.H. Ab in beat 3.5, it sounded like there's more than two unique notes there.
It's a bit hard to tell for sure, but what I have written in right now makes the most sense to me - not cluttering with too many notes, but including a countermelodic line that fits in.

Quote from: Bloop on May 02, 2024, 02:30:16 AMEverything else looks good though! Maybe you could add some dynamics in the m30-32 and m38-40 sections? The rest of the piece seems to stay in that p range, but in those sections there's a bit of a crescendo and decrescendo. An actual dynamic marking might be a bit overkill, but a crescendo and decrescendo probably gets the point across that there's something happening here.
I wasn't sure at first since a lot of the ebb and flow of this piece (both in terms of timing and volume) is pretty loose and up to the performer to draw out, but yeah these couple of places make sense! I haven't specified a dynamic level, just added hairpins to show that it swells a bit.

Files updated! ^^
#9
The OP has files for your Mega Man sheet! Looking forward to going over this one soon though, I love this piece and the file I downloaded before looked good~
#10
Quote from: LeviR.star on April 11, 2024, 05:00:10 PMYou'll notice that I took a certain liberty from m. 9 through 16, and that involves replacing the original bass line with an inversion of the accompaniment pattern, rather than transcribing the bass line verbatim while omitting the accompaniment. This may come across as a controversial change, but with all due respect, I stand by it as this setup preserves the groove far better than the alternative. Aside from that, this is a pretty straight-forward arrangement.
This all looks good to me! No qualms, sounds fine and is reasonable to play.

Only correction to suggest, I think - second to last note in m. 19 LH should be G instead of F?

Quote from: LeviR.star on April 11, 2024, 05:00:10 PMOh, and please change the sheet's title to "Quick Man Stage" :) Thanks!
Will get that a bit later!
#11
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 30, 2024, 05:19:15 AMBumping this up. Is this one done??
See Bloop's comment above
#12
Glad to see a replacement for this one especially given how popular this piece has been lately. The one we have now isn't bad but is showing its age. Here are a few passing comments as I skim this over:


I feel like the voicing for the chords needs some work. In m. 3-8, the jumps are very large and pretty difficult to pull off accurately at this tempo. Could you try inverting the triads downwards and/or using dyads instead to make it easier on the left hand? I can provide some suggestions if you like.

In measures 12+, the bass is missing and having the left hand play the mid-range chords. I think this could be addressed by making sure you have your inversions correct (ex. m. 12 plays Eb in the bass) first and thinking about what other chord tones would make sense to include from there. Again, happy to suggest some options if you like.

For m. 19, use a regular An instead of Bbb. In measure 22, make sure to keep your intervals consistent. The second chord would work better written as a simple Dm triad, and last one as Bm. (Technically could be Ebbm and Cbm but we could do without that many flats lol)
#13
Quote from: ThatHiddenCharacter on April 28, 2024, 12:09:52 PMWhat, no. I did move them down. Quite a bit, too.
Ah, I see. I don't mean to overindex on this point, but I did want to make sure I explained myself properly (reference post).

With what you have right now, the header has a disproportionately small amount of space above the top staff. By contrast, the bottom of the page has a lot of whitespace, which makes the distribution of stuff on the page look a little lopsided.
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If you lower the top staff some more to give the header more space underneath, you also help the page look a bit more balanced.
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#14
Quote from: Latios212 on April 26, 2024, 05:17:14 PMLastly, you can move the music down on pages 2-3 a little bit to give the header and page number a bit more room. I think that's all that remains from me, nice work!
Missed this too? :P

Anyway, everything else looks good so I'll approve! Nice work, glad to have more Rhythm Heaven sheets!

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#15
Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m7 and 17: I hear an A in the R.H. below the C on beat 2.5 (not quite sure though), and a D below the A in beat 3.5 (a little bit more sure about this one)
The A on beat 2.5 sounds good, but the D making the fifth sounds a bit out of place, I think, so I left that out for now.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m18: I hear a Bn in the R.H. too on beat 2. I also wonder if F# in beat 1.5 might make more sense than Gb, because of the leading-tone to G expectation that gets subverted. Keeping it as Gb is fine too though ^^
I agree with both of these points! Updated accordingly :P

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m29: It's a bit hard to hear but it feels like there's a Bb on beat 2 in the L.H. too (which would mirror m26 pretty well too)
-m30: I hear a D on the bottom of beat 1.5 R.H. too
Yep!

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m35: Is there a specific reason you wrote the lower counter melody in the R.H.? It's probably easier to play it with the L.H.
Haha, I didn't even think about that. Maybe it's due to already writing it in the RH in measure 33. But I do prefer having the right hand play it, to highlight that line a bit better compared to the chords. It's not a particularly fast piece so the jump down from the high octave doesn't bother me at all.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m37: I think I hear the Bb and D restruck on beat 2 too, together with the En
I'm not totally sure I hear this one, but would be consistent with the chordiness of the rest of the section so it makes sense! That said, I really don't hear the major second between the Dn and E if the D was restruck, so I only wrote in the Bb underneath.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m39: I think the R.H. just plays single notes in beat 2.5-3.5 (the top notes), other tones might be overtones or stuff tricking the ear
I'm actually really glad you said that, because this measure was giving me by far the most trouble to play LOL. I still think I hear Bn-A on beats 3-3.5 which lead nicely into the G in the next bar, but they do double the left hand so they might not be the most necessary. I left them in for now, lemme know if you think that seems reasonable.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m44: Maybe you could add a fermata or caesura at the end of this bar? There's quite a long pause and even a pedal switch before ending on the last chord.
Works for me! Added a fermata to the last RH note (and the LH quarter note too, I guess?)

Thanks for the check, files updated :)