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Title: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: flygon9 on January 11, 2015, 11:32:07 AM
I've gotten a lot of my sheet music from this site, and since I enjoy transcribing in my free time, so I figured that I could give back with a couple sheets. However, thus beings the problems. My main expertise in notation programs is in musescore, and I'm getting better at Sibelius. But, everything on this site is Finale-based. I'm trying Notepad, however it's very primitive compared to what I'm used to. So I figure the best solution to just write songs in a different program and import them into Notepad via music XML. However, this hasn't worked. Does anyone else have any suggestions as to what I can do to work around using Notepad?
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 11, 2015, 11:46:58 AM
What many of the notepad users do here is they do as much as they can on notepad, then post their "in progress" arrangements in this topic (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=685.0), asking other users with more advanced versions of finale to make the edits for them.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Maelstrom on January 11, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
Quote from: flygon9 on January 11, 2015, 11:32:07 AMDoes anyone else have any suggestions as to what I can do to work around using Notepad?
Yes. Buy Finale.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: flygon9 on January 11, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
Aw dang. I already spent a ton of time on a duet version of the contest theme from ORAS. I guess i should start re-inputting that into notepad, huh? And as a side note, I was asking for finale for Christmas, but my parents contacted my band teacher and he recommended Sibelius, as it was more user-friendly. So that's what I ended up getting. (Not that I'm complaining of course, it works wonders.)
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 11, 2015, 07:35:44 PM
I hear that Sibelius is more user-friendly, and the people running the company are actually not chimpanzees. I guess it sucks that finale is the industry standard :/
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: mikey on January 11, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
My music professor also recommended Sibelius.  It seems to be very good.  Unfortunately Finale is just what everyone uses.  As far as notepad 2012 goes that's just your basics.  It's okay for the level I'm at because I can just have people do the changes while my sheet is getting fixed :D
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 11, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
Didn't Finale have some discount for people coming off Sibelius? Or did that promotion end already?
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 11, 2015, 09:05:52 PM
They probably still do. It's similar to their ongoing student discount, iirc.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: FierceDeity on January 12, 2015, 02:12:47 AM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on January 11, 2015, 07:35:44 PMI guess it sucks that finale is the industry standard :/

Which industry are we talking here
Because like, everyone else in my major (music comp; except for one other person) and all of my professors (that I know of) use/recommend sibelius
So I'm legitimately curious as to where it's mainly used, if not in academia
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on January 12, 2015, 03:01:42 AM
The industry of NSM, obviously.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: flygon9 on January 12, 2015, 05:26:03 AM
Well regardless of whether or not they still have that discount, I doubt that it lowers the price enough that my 15 year old self can afford it.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 12, 2015, 10:34:24 AM
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 12, 2015, 02:12:47 AMWhich industry are we talking here
Because like, everyone else in my major (music comp; except for one other person) and all of my professors (that I know of) use/recommend sibelius
So I'm legitimately curious as to where it's mainly used, if not in academia

Everyone here at the schools I've been to says that it's the industry standard for music publishers in the US.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on January 12, 2015, 08:38:24 PM
Regardless, it's the standard we've adopted with our abnormally large number of sheets, and  I don't think we're going to switch to something different anytime soon.  We would rather have everything conform to one style than force users to download 4 different clients.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 15, 2015, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: flygon9 on January 12, 2015, 05:26:03 AMWell regardless of whether or not they still have that discount, I doubt that it lowers the price enough that my 15 year old self can afford it.
I did it at that age. Just work and save up and you'll have $350 before you know it. (Or less depending on the discount. I haven't checked it in a while)
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 15, 2015, 09:39:18 AM
You can always get the student discount as long as you can prove you're a student.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: FierceDeity on January 15, 2015, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on January 12, 2015, 08:38:24 PMRegardless, it's the standard we've adopted with our abnormally large number of sheets, and  I don't think we're going to switch to something different anytime soon.  We would rather have everything conform to one style than force users to download 4 different clients.

No yeah, I'm not advocating that we do switch anytime soon. I was just legitimately curious.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Maelstrom on January 16, 2015, 06:45:56 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MakeMusic-Finale-2014-Competitive-Pro-Upgrade-from-Sibelius-Encore-DOWNLOAD-/390767708908?pt=US_Image_Video_Audio_Software&hash=item5afb920aec

How's this for affordable?
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 17, 2015, 07:53:47 AM
^Exactly. That's cheaper than a walmart bicycle.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: mikey on January 17, 2015, 10:39:24 AM
Bro I could buy that lol
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: braix on January 17, 2015, 11:10:55 AM
haha im a little broke here
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: macfan406 on January 30, 2015, 02:37:08 AM
A lot of people are using Sibelius. I believe both Symphony of the Goddesses and Symphonic Evolutions were both orchestrated in Sibelius. I myself use it as well. It's becoming more of a standard as it gets better. And it's extremely intuitive.  Although Sibelius was in its past an inferior product. So most people used Finale at the time since it was superior. And most don't want to re learn a new notation program.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Maelstrom on January 30, 2015, 05:39:32 AM
I won't deny the fact that Finale is not intuitive. But the shortcuts are once you get the hang of them.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: AwesomeYears on February 06, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
If you have an iPad, try out Symphony Pro! Only 15 bucks, has lots of features and it can make PDFs and MIDIs! (It also has over 100 instruments)
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Maelstrom on February 06, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Can it export musicXML?
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: AwesomeYears on February 06, 2015, 04:47:47 PM
Yes it can
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: King Sammer on February 07, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: AwesomeYears on February 06, 2015, 04:13:42 PMIf you have an iPad, try out Symphony Pro! Only 15 bucks, has lots of features and it can make PDFs and MIDIs! (It also has over 100 instruments)
Is it how they made the Super Paper Mario music?
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Maelstrom on February 07, 2015, 02:02:30 PM
.......
No.
They used real, professional software.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: mikey on February 07, 2015, 09:50:52 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on February 07, 2015, 02:02:30 PM.......
No.
They used real, professional software.
how can you be sure
what if their real professional software was Ipads
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Maelstrom on February 08, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Trust me. My uncle has some of the entry level (Read: Under $1,000, above $400) stuff and it is awesome. There is no ipad software that has the ridiculous amount of obscure, bizarre voices that is Super Paper Mario music.
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: mikey on February 08, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
does your uncle work on Paper Mario music
Title: Re: Non-finale music notation softwares
Post by: Maelstrom on February 08, 2015, 01:22:11 PM
yes
He HAS worked directly in recording studios, but not really with purely  synthetic music.