This is my first arrangement please tell me how I can improve it:
[N64] Zelda: OoT - Ganondorf's Theme
.MUS: http://www.mediafire.com/?042todmm2cz (http://www.mediafire.com/?042todmm2cz)
.MID: http://www.mediafire.com/?fuknufkd1nv (http://www.mediafire.com/?fuknufkd1nv)
Thank you for putting my theme here. I wondered why it wasn't done yet. It's simple. :P ::)
Quote from: Ganondorf on June 15, 2008, 01:52:33 PMThank you for putting my theme here. I wondered why it wasn't done yet. It's simple. :P ::)
oh brother.... ::)
Nice work Triforceguy! The second part of the arrangement was done very well, but the first part...well the rhythm was off or something. I'm not quite sure what you could do to fix it. Also, to the posts before me: First, above me, where did you get the DEmotivational banner? That's pretty awesome! And @ Ganondorf above me: Where did you get that last part of Ganondorf's name? The Undurin part? I've heard the rest of the name somewhere, but not that part. lol are your parents the Twinrova?
I think I fixed the problem, the problem was that near the end it was like this: (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.4freeimagehost.com%2Fuploads%2F781344841092.png&hash=e79cc982c2de08687aa7f2ce00b8be9af75bd489) when it should look like this: (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.4freeimagehost.com%2Fuploads%2F6fb5b069fa3b.png&hash=d1d87830baa3ebc63ff335043498313c92cdbb51), hopefully it's ready for submission. (fixed link is in first post)
Well, the rhythm seemed off at the start, and now I think I know who you might fix it. Just so you know, you don't have to trust me on this, since 1) I don't post on these forums too much, and 2) I haven't arranged any songs. I messed around a bit with the rhythm on the first part and I got it to sound like what I think the theme sounds like. Here's what I did:
If you change the quarter notes at the start of the song to eighth notes, and tie them to the next note, of course inserting a eighth rest before the eighth note. That sounded right to me, but you don't have to do anything! Just my opinion. Thanks for listening to me earlier. And how did you get the screen shots?
Instead of saying "an octave lower throughout", you can change the staffs to vb. Notepad won't let you, but upgrades will.
This next point is from my view only, but I find that if a song is chromatic, like this one, it helps when reading this if you only use one type of accidental. So instead of changing from sharps to flats, why don't you only use one? Not only will it make the sheet look and flow better, it will help the reader as well.
Thanks pumpy_heart, It's now more chromatic (fixed link in first post) It's now ready for submission unless someone finds another problem.
The notes are wrong, the tempo is bad, it just isn't near as good as the old SIB arrangement we had. Generally isn't a good arrangement, sorry. (Although that WAS Ganon's Tower, but thats just a remix. It had the right notes, tempo, and everything)
Quote from: Gamer4250 on June 23, 2008, 11:00:53 AMThe notes are wrong, the tempo is bad, it just isn't near as good as the old SIB arrangement we had. Generally isn't a good arrangement, sorry. (Although that WAS Ganon's Tower, but thats just a remix. It had the right notes, tempo, and everything)
Wow, way to shoot down his hopes and dreams. It is his first post.
and i'm only 12, why is everyone forgetting that >:(
I told him how he could improve it, didn't I? It's called criticism. If you want to know how your arrangement it, expect to be told how your arrangement is.
Quote from: Gamer4250 on June 25, 2008, 09:23:21 AMI told him how he could improve it, didn't I?
Not really, all you said was what's bad about it not actually telling me how to improve it.
Congratulations, you just figured out what to improve on.
But you didn't tell him anything at all!! All you told him was that it was totally wrong. He knows he needs to improve on that stuff, but he doesn't know how... Wow, way to fail, Gamer.
Well, the sheet's off at such a bad start to be honest... A complete redo would be better. It's off-key/out of tune, for one, and I'm pretty sure even the time sig isn't right. Tempo's way off too, and it just feels empty and weak. I really don't think this is a song for beginning arrangers, since the chord work really makes this song, and finding out the notes of a chord can be overwhelming. Not gonna lie, I would seriously restart or pick a different song.
Oh, and sorry if this post sounds rude or discouraging, I'm not trying to come across that way.
Quote from: Gooch on June 25, 2008, 07:03:39 PMBut you didn't tell him anything at all!! All you told him was that it was totally wrong. He knows he needs to improve on that stuff, but he doesn't know how... Wow, way to fail, Gamer.
I agree with Gooch....
Um... Ok, I'm kinda on Gamer's side on this one. If it was a small error, like only a few notes wrong, then sure, it wouldn't be that much of a hassle to spend some time yourself to help correct it. In this case though, almost everything about the sheet is wrong. So for Gamer to help fix which parts need correcting, he would pretty much have to do the whole sheet himself.
...Which is why I pretty much just arranged it myself just now. ::) But I won't post it. Instead I'll give some tips:
For the time sig I put it in cut time (C with a line through it, or 2/2), and 120 is a good tempo (it might slightly accelerate near the end though). The first and second notes for the left hand is a C and a G, and the first note for the right hand is a Bb. The melody at the start is weird, I put a half note with three dots (maybe write it out as a dotted half note tied to a dotted 8th note), and then a 16th note. The rest is easy to figure out, since it moves chromatically pretty much. For the right hand, it's all in dyads except for 16th notes and measures 1, 2, 5, and 6. They're all in fourths too, except for the last chord which is a third. Oh yeah, and pay attention to the left hand part, it's not the same throughout the whole song.
Quote from: Gamer4250 on June 25, 2008, 03:08:42 PMCongratulations, you just figured out what to improve on.
Hahaha, I actually agree with Gamer though. I listened to it and thought how I had to picture the music playing in order to convince myself that this sounded like it. It was extremely simplistic, when the actual theme should be far more haunting and forceful. I think you should begin with a new composition when you have more experience with this.
What was wrong w/ gamer's post was that he just told him it was horribly wrong, he didn't tell him how to correct anything or give him any tips on how to improve. I agree w/ gamer that it doesn't sound right, that it needs to be upped in so many other levels and places, but i don't agree w/ the fact that he just told him it was horribly wrong and nothing else.
I don't want to waste my time telling him each individual note to fix, that would take me hours. You're just trying to take advantage of the situation to make me look like an idiot. As Echo said, the only way for me to be more helpful would be to do the whole thing myself, which maybe he wants to do, but I don't.
I didn't sit here and tell you how to fix every single little note. I told you you ought to have been a tad more helpful in your initial post. No, im not trying to make you look like an idiot.
I hate to agree with gamer (and I really mean HATE), but this song just really needs some serious work. Rejected, sorry.
:O Since when have you joined the club?
few months ago