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Title: Static's Halloween Sheet - Vagrant Story - Abandoned Mines Level 2
Post by: Static on September 29, 2020, 06:02:22 PM

The title is from here (https://vgmdb.net/album/307).
Title: Re: Static's Halloween Sheet - Vagrant Story - Abandoned Mines Level 2
Post by: Libera on October 23, 2020, 01:35:58 PM
Checking time!  Generally it looks pretty good.

-I hear something quite different for this main right hand figure that's all over the first two pages.
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I don't think it's doing the same thing here as it does later on at 21.  At 21 it sounds like there's two layers, one which matches the stuff previously and another which I think is the rhythm you're writing out.
-I think the RH figure moves to an F# rather than an An towards the end of bar 4 (and similar places).  (As in, B F# D# rather than B An D#.)
-Bar 20 RH beats 2.5 and 4 sounds like they should be lower.  Maybe invert the one on beat 2.5 down once and bring beat 4 down an octave?  Also, I think there should be a Dn along with the G on beat 4.
-Bars 32/34 LH the second to last note should be an octave lower.  For some reason it's a slightly different pattern than in 30/32.
-Any reason for omitting the G# pedal along in bars 37-40?
-I'm not really sure how you're deciding which notes should be one two or three notes in bars 45-52 as it seems kind of arbitrary compared to the original. 
-In bars 46 and 50 I hear a change between beat 3.5 and beat 4 whereas you have both chords the same in both instances.
Title: Re: Static's Halloween Sheet - Vagrant Story - Abandoned Mines Level 2
Post by: Static on October 23, 2020, 06:50:33 PM
Quote from: Libera on October 23, 2020, 01:35:58 PM-I hear something quite different for this main right hand figure that's all over the first two pages.
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492809359961882625/769285778873384970/unknown.png
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I don't think it's doing the same thing here as it does later on at 21.  At 21 it sounds like there's two layers, one which matches the stuff previously and another which I think is the rhythm you're writing out.
-I think the RH figure moves to an F# rather than an An towards the end of bar 4 (and similar places).  (As in, B F# D# rather than B An D#.)
-Bar 20 RH beats 2.5 and 4 sounds like they should be lower.  Maybe invert the one on beat 2.5 down once and bring beat 4 down an octave?  Also, I think there should be a Dn along with the G on beat 4.
-Bars 32/34 LH the second to last note should be an octave lower.  For some reason it's a slightly different pattern than in 30/32.
-Any reason for omitting the G# pedal along in bars 37-40?
-I'm not really sure how you're deciding which notes should be one two or three notes in bars 45-52 as it seems kind of arbitrary compared to the original. 
-In bars 46 and 50 I hear a change between beat 3.5 and beat 4 whereas you have both chords the same in both instances.
- I hear all those notes, but those are mostly echo notes. I wanted the rising D#-A#-B figure to be the most prominent, since that's what sounds the most prominent in the original (and are technically the only notes that are really played). The only echo notes I included were the D#s, which I felt were the least intrusive notes and help add to the texture without having every single note be present, and without disrupting the pattern.
- The harp voice at m21 is the same as at the beginning, but an octave higher. Is that what you're referring to? It's just one part playing but it has an echo effect. (btw I also tied some of the upper layer LH notes because m22/24/26/30 were impossible to play as written)
- I hear a An in m4, 24, and 28 but every similar spot after that I hear the F# in m8 and 12 and have changed those measures accordingly.
- Beat 4 is actually from the upper violin voice, I included it since nothing else is playing on beat 4 and I think it's helps to increase the tension/drama going into m21. I still hear an F# on top on beat 2.5 there. And yeah there is a Dn, I added it.
- Did you mean 32/36? Fixed
- I forgot to add it, until now
- Some of those chords simply have varying amounts of notes. All I can really say is, I went by what notes I heard and just added them - there's plenty of spots where different instruments are doubling pitches (sometimes at different octaves) but then divide and then double again later. m48 beat 3 only has that one A, but I added an A to m53 beat 3 since that's there too. It sounds kind of monotone in the original, but there the parts do kind of weave around more than it seems.
- It sounds different (I was confused by this when I arranged this as well), but no matter how closely I listen to it, the chords are actually the same. The sound kind of blends with the previous chord because of the reverb, though. Also, m50 beat 4.5 should have a Dn in the middle instead of C so I fixed that.

Edit: For m8 and 12 RH, I actually hear a G# instead of F# there.
Title: Re: Static's Halloween Sheet - Vagrant Story - Abandoned Mines Level 2
Post by: Libera on October 24, 2020, 04:10:17 AM
Quote from: Static on October 23, 2020, 06:50:33 PM- I hear all those notes, but those are mostly echo notes. I wanted the rising D#-A#-B figure to be the most prominent, since that's what sounds the most prominent in the original (and are technically the only notes that are really played). The only echo notes I included were the D#s, which I felt were the least intrusive notes and help add to the texture without having every single note be present, and without disrupting the pattern.
- The harp voice at m21 is the same as at the beginning, but an octave higher. Is that what you're referring to? It's just one part playing but it has an echo effect. (btw I also tied some of the upper layer LH notes because m22/24/26/30 were impossible to play as written)

Yeah I think I was getting confused with what I was hearing.  I can see how it makes sense now and it looks good to me.

Quote from: Static on October 23, 2020, 06:50:33 PM- I hear a An in m4, 24, and 28 but every similar spot after that I hear the F# in m8 and 12 and have changed those measures accordingly.
Edit: For m8 and 12 RH, I actually hear a G# instead of F# there.

Yes that looks good.

Quote from: Static on October 23, 2020, 06:50:33 PM- Did you mean 32/36? Fixed

Yes, whoops.

Quote from: Static on October 23, 2020, 06:50:33 PM- Some of those chords simply have varying amounts of notes. All I can really say is, I went by what notes I heard and just added them - there's plenty of spots where different instruments are doubling pitches (sometimes at different octaves) but then divide and then double again later. m48 beat 3 only has that one A, but I added an A to m53 beat 3 since that's there too. It sounds kind of monotone in the original, but there the parts do kind of weave around more than it seems.
- It sounds different (I was confused by this when I arranged this as well), but no matter how closely I listen to it, the chords are actually the same. The sound kind of blends with the previous chord because of the reverb, though. Also, m50 beat 4.5 should have a Dn in the middle instead of C so I fixed that.

Sure I guess this makes sense I was just curious if there was something I was missing.  The thick texture makes it kind of difficult to make exactly what's going on but I think what you have is fine.  And yeah I couldn't actually work out what was different about those chords either; maybe it's just the articulation makes it sound like something more complicated is going on.



Anything not mentioned looks good.  I suppose I'll approve now, nice.
Title: Re: Static's Halloween Sheet - Vagrant Story - Abandoned Mines Level 2
Post by: Maelstrom on October 29, 2020, 05:16:35 PM
I've looked over it multiple times and I literally have nothing to say. Great job, absolutely love how m21-m28 sounds.

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