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Project Archive / Re: Count Batula — Hallowe’en Project Submission
« on: October 28, 2020, 10:12:47 PM »
Looks good

Oh I see what you're talking about. I suppose I could add them, but I think just by being different notes they're already naturally accented compared to the repeated notes below them. I also added accents to the following measures since the top notes remain the same. Reverse accents do exist, and they look like this ◡, or a note is simply put in parentheses (like a ghosted note). However, both of these marks are often used for other purposes such as ◡ to indicate bends for wind instruments, etc., so they're not used very often.

Thanks for the feedback

[PC] Touhou 12.5: Double Spoiler - "Youkai Modern Colony"
[MID] [MUS] [MUSX] [PDF] [Original]

I haven't done one of these in a long time...

Project Archive / Re: Count Batula — Hallowe’en Project Submission
« on: October 27, 2020, 11:46:37 PM »
I’m not sure I understand. The page numbers and stuff are where Finale puts them by default, which has always seemed fine to me (and was at least good enough not to get noticed until now), so I fail to see the point of tinkering with it, especially since I tend to break things when I mess with margins. Moreover, you’re giving me the option of simply changing the margins to keep everything where it is right now (which is what I would do, since e.g. moving the page numbers down would clip with the staves in some places), so I don’t understand why I can’t just leave everything as is without changing the margins and just make a mental note for next time I submit a sheet to be uploaded.
Sorry, that was a bad explanation from me; you should just move the page numbers, etc. to within the current margins you have. I know it's kind of nitpicky, but having everything within the same margins helps give the sheet uniformity across all the pages. If you look on this sheet you'll notice that the main title (page 1) is within the margins, as are all the staves. I think it makes sense that everything else should be too. Hopefully that makes sense.

Project Archive / Re: Count Batula — Hallowe’en Project Submission
« on: October 27, 2020, 09:58:56 PM »
As for the title and copyright information, etc., I don’t know what to say: it’s formatted exactly the same as it’s always been on my sheets and I’ve never had any remarks about that.
If that's the case, then it means we didn't catch it. The info should be within the margins (if you want, you can just move the margins themselves instead of re-spacing all the text). You should do this for your subs as well.

Everything else looks good, so I'm going to go ahead and approve this, just be sure to make that change.

Looks good! I approve

Oh, I hear that now. That note has now been changed.

Ah, OK, that makes sense. The fermata in m46 still looks like it's a little off-center, but everything else looks good.

I think that makes sense. The rest of the changes look good, so I'll go ahead and accept.

Nice sheet, I just have a few things here:
  • Feel free to include the lower harmony in the RH voice - it'll make it harder to play but players can just leave it out if they want. I think it adds a lot to the sound of the piece.
  • This is technically in Eb major, so the key signature should be 3 flats rather than 4.
  • The third-to-last 8th note in m4 LH should be one octave higher.
  • The left side of the tempo marking should be aligned with the left side of the time signature.

Project Archive / Re: Count Batula — Hallowe’en Project Submission
« on: October 27, 2020, 02:54:49 AM »
  • You should consider writing in explicit articulations in m9-16 RH. Most notes are staccato, but some (m12 beat 2, m16 beats 2-3) aren't. Also applies to m62-76 RH.
  • Beat 3 of m18 RH sounds like it should be staccato 8th notes.
  • Beat 3 of m48 RH sounds like it should be staccato as well, you might want to put that in to differentiate those notes from the 8th notes in m49.
  • m54, 56, etc. LH should have 16th notes instead of 8th note triplets. I'm not sure if you put triplets to make that part easier to play with the 16ths in the RH, but I'd argue that a fast 3:4 pattern like that is harder to play. I'd just use normal 8th notes instead for that purpose (or just leave it as 16ths).
  • Typically, pickup measures are not included in D.C. directions anyway, so you can just use that instead of D.S. Up to you though, since the D.S. makes it very clear where to go.
  • Your page numbers/titles and copyright info are outside the margins.

Edit: I forgot to add this to the post, but I'm fine with how you've written that m46 section.

As I said, I do not give permission for my existing arrangement to be transposed. This is ridiculous. The thing is, the reasons you’re giving are the same as outright banning arrangements beginning in seven accidental keys—none will ever be accepted if you guys continue upholding these musically conservative opinions. Maybe you’re okay with that, but as I said with all due respect, I think it’s a disgrace. You guys have really surprised and depressed me here. Sorry to Levi, who said I’ve been posting “attacks” on the moderators, but if you go back and read all my posts I’m literally just respectfully disagreeing.

Nowhere in this thread did anyone say that you can't use 7-accidental key signatures. We have examples of them already on site like this and this and this.

Look at what all these arrangements have in common - a lack of copious amounts of double accidentals. The key signatures were selected in order to reduce the amount of unnecessary visual clutter in the sheets, which makes them significantly more approachable and enjoyable to read through. It's the same reason why Eb minor might be picked over D# minor in certain cases.

I don't really have anything else to add...

Oops I accidentally edited your post instead of replying... but now for a reply:

Though I don't appreciate your personal attacks on the updaters, I understand your intentions, Slow, and agree with Static that it's a noble gesture. Having both A# and B-flat minor variations isn't a change to your arrangement, it's just an alternative for those who aren't skilled enough to play in the former.
Just to be crystal clear here - I'm not arguing that A#m is harder to read; I'm arguing that it takes more time to read.

This will be my last post on the subject since I don't really have much more to say, but something here kind of bothered me.

Then don’t accept it. I just don’t really think it’s appropriate that you won’t despite the fact that someone approved it and I’m not breaking any rules (and like I said, I think adding a rule about using simpler key signatures, which you’re basically enforcing here, would be a disgrace). I won’t be changing it and I don’t give my permission to change my existing arrangement.

As a user of this site long ago, seeing this arrangement would have really intrigued me and gotten me excited, and I know there are others like me out there. Sorry that you want me to bend on this, but I won’t.

The thing is, changing the key here has nothing to do with your arrangement itself - we aren't asking you to change notes or chord voicings or any actual arrangement techniques that you used when writing this out. We're merely asking that you make it easier to read.

You might have gotten really intrigued by seeing something like this, but as I've said like 2-3 times already, most users of this site are not trained musicians or in training or music theorists. Our sheets are not meant to challenge our reader's ability to interpret music theory concepts, they're meant to convey the music clearly so that anyone can just find a sheet and play it without thinking too hard about reading it. Working on the music itself - the phrases and notes and dynamics - those are the most important to work on. It's a noble goal to try and educate a bunch of random people on this stuff, and I really see where you're coming from, but it really isn't within our scope here and I don't think it should be.

Music notation are just that - notation. What matters is the audio that's produced from said notation. If you go ahead and add a 2nd page with the same song in Bb minor, I guarantee you most people would just read that one - why go through the headache to play the A#m one?

You're free to still refuse of course, but I just don't understand why this needs to be written like this.

Looks great, I'll accept now.

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