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I'll be in the chat.  I'd like to talk to Dude if possible.

[Mashi]

I'd rather see Mashi revived.  Keep in mind that at least one of those two deaths (probably both, but at least one) was done by the Megakillers.  I think it's much less likely that TST had Mashi offed so early.  Mashi strikes me more as a wolf target.  Mashi also did this sort of thing before in 2fool4skool and he was a human then.  I think it's likely he's a human now!

I don't know about lynching, though.  I'll do some interrogation tonight!

The medium should still claim.  Yeah, we'll lose the Medium's power after Night 1, assuming his corpse gets mangled.

I'm willing to sacrifice that small, small chance of a medium having any huge impact on the game for an alliance and a guarantee that the vigis and seerings are used well.  We're talking about two killings controlled by humans in a game with four specials, not to mention however many seerings we get off.  I think it's fair to sacrifice the medium, which is by far the least useful of the four specials, for an alliance.

If we do it, we need to be really quick about it so the alliance is set up before the start of Day 1.  That means that everyone claims to the Medium regardless of their role.  For newer players, "claiming" refers to one of two concepts.  When we suggest that the Medium claim to the thread, that means that the Medium tells everyone in the thread who they are.  At this point, that player is trustworthy.  Then comes the second meaning of the word "claim".  Everyone sends a PM to the medium telling the medium what role they are. 

I'm looking at the Sign-ups and it doesn't say that.  It doesn't mention the Medium powers at all and hasn't been edited since before this thread went up.

Can freely communicate with dead players.

Did your role PM phrase this portion of the role list differently?

Bird I think you forgot Toby maybe.

What happens if both mega killers kill the same guy?

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Another argument against the proposed win condition changes is that manhunts become unfeasible.  In any game with greater than 5 players, the humans have a better than 50% chance of winning with random lynches.

I'm siding with Bird on this one.  Other than the existence of a vigi or charismatic human late in the game, both of which are pretty rare, I can't think of a situation in which the wolves could get their numbers equal to the number of humans in the game and for me to think that the humans deserved to win the game.  They certainly don't if it requires a KitB, let alone several.

If I'm understanding the point Thiannon and Mashi are trying to make about the missed wolfings, it's a problem that's not unique to the current system!

Suppose we adopt the new system and you're going into a night phase with three humans and two wolves.  Assuming the wolves don't want to win by going for two consecutive KitBs (which seems to be the crux of a different argument that they make) then it makes way more sense for the wolves to skip a wolfing.  There's just a different set of circumstances in which it makes sense to miss wolfings.

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Hasn't been a week yet so I don't think it's officially cancelled.  Also in

I didn't go with the chicken option on the bomb.  You lynched the player I threw the bomb at against my wishes and he wasn't going to be lynched when I threw it.  I expect better play from you if you're human, fank.