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#5761
Music / Re: Pokémon Soundtrack Discussion with Latios
October 23, 2016, 04:27:47 PM
2 - The Very First Cave

Track: "Caves of Mt. Moon"
Composer: Jun'ichi Masuda
Game: Pokémon Red & Pokémon Blue
Youtube link: [PocketMonstersMusic]
Sheet link: [NSM's PDF]



It's the original Pokémon adventure. It's the first time stepping into a cave entrance... let's take a listen to what you hear inside. (Besides endless Zubat cries, of course.)

Mt. Moon sets the scene perfectly for what one might expect after stepping into a cave for the first time. Something about this track just seems so desolate right off the bat, and that's the fact that this track uses only two voices (save for the lead-in to the 3/4 measures) and no percussion. Unlike every other major track in the game, the use of only two audio channels makes Mt. Moon sound empty. In a good way, because you're all alone wandering around the vast interior.

Adding to this is the use of the whole tone scale throughout the piece, which gives the piece a surreal, dream-like feel. On top of all that, this track has the strangest rhythms of all the Kanto themes. Listen to the intro and the song is pretty well-structured with a 3+3+2 rhythm. Things change at measure 13, and the song transitions into the section with lower chromatic ascents that slowly get lower and lower as the song slows down. Right when the song sounds like it's about to break down completely, it snaps back to something resembling the first section, but...

The rhythms past measure 20 can be written out in a number of different ways, but it's difficult to follow along with a single pulse. If somehow you manage to listen this far enough in the theme without being ambushed by a Zubat, this section serves to try and confuse and disorient you as you wander through the dimly lit rooms of Mt. Moon. And when you've finally uncovered a consistent 6/8 rhythm as one of the two voices drops out, the track throws one final curveball at you with a 7/8 measure returning back to 4/4 for the intro. Wow, that's one heck of a Game Boy track. And with only two voices, at that.

Other incarnations:
  • The FireRed and LeafGreen version supplements the original with subtle background voices, ultimately to the same effect.
  • Pokémon Gold and Silver uses the first section for "Rock Tunnel", which interestingly has the melody echo itself an eighth note after it strikes. But it loses the entire rest of the track...
  • Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver also add background voices but changes it to give the track a lighter, less imposing feel.
  • In Pokémon Gold and Silver and HeartGold and SoulSilver the entire Mt. Moon area is revamped and the music is replaced with a simple, cheerful track... as the whole dungeon is gone.
  • Most interestingly, Shinji Miyazaki's anime arrangement replaces the two voices with extremely echoey pianos and messes with the rhythm even more... it starts out in 9/8, changes, and evokes the same surreal-ness in the original.
#5762
Music / Re: Pokémon Soundtrack Discussion by Latios
October 22, 2016, 09:36:33 PM
Haha thanks guys! ;)

And for everyone else watching, feel free to join in; I don't plan on it just being me rambling on and on all the time :J

Quote from: dajwxp on October 22, 2016, 05:57:27 PMAnd yes, this track does sound very Hitomi-esque. She's just so dang good with her rhythms, and even in a simple track like this there are rhythmic sparkles that give it so much life. The standard jazz ensemble + ukelele  configuration is essentially chill + Hawaii, and that's brilliant. Hyped for the rest of the tracks to come for sure~
Yeee get hyped! I'm really excited for the official soundtrack being released next month as well.
#5763
Welcome back! (Not like you left or anything but I've been seeing your submissions less frequently...)
#5764
It's Sunday! (Over here, at least.)

Added Hau'oli City (Night) from mid-last week. And to keep my promise of new sheets on Sunday:

Kirby's Return to Dreamland
NEW!   Wii Channel[MUS] [Original] 

#5765
Music / Re: Pokémon Soundtrack Discussion by Latios
October 22, 2016, 09:45:47 AM
Yeah - I meant "still" on the composition team, I guess. I was just disappointed she only contributed one track on OR/AS (and not a very good one, at that).
#5766
Music / Re: Pokémon Soundtrack Discussion by Latios
October 22, 2016, 09:23:56 AM
1 - Welcome to Alola

Track: "Hau'oli City (Day)" and "Hau'oli City (Night)"
Composer: Currently unknown
Game: Pokémon Sun & Pokémon Moon
Youtube link:
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I've been eagerly anticipating the city/town music from Sun and Moon for quite a while now, ever since they were announced. Across all generations thus far, city and town music as a whole has been consistently spectacular, and Sun and Moon seem to be continuing that trend. Right off the bat, in the demo version, we're introduced to Hau'oli City in the tropical Alola region which has both a day and a night theme! Different tracks for day and night for city/town themes has been absent ever since Sinnoh when they were introduced. But here we have two themes that are instantly more different than any Sinnoh pair. Most of the differences between the day and night versions of Sinnoh tracks consist of a key change and/or inclusion of different background voices. Hau'oli City, on the other hand, completely reinvents the theme.

"Hau'oli City (Day)" sounds as one might expect as the introduction to the new tropical region, giving off a very sunny and tropical vibe, using the ukulele (which seems to be a recurring theme across this soundtrack so far; very fitting). It serves its purpose wonderfully. The melody is bright and memorable, and makes for nice easy listening. Which is perfect for the first theme we get from this region.

"Hau'oli City (Night)" completely changes the style. Instrumentation consists of a jazz trio - piano, bass, and drums, and instantly gives off a Sinnoh-jazzy vibe. It works perfectly as the first night theme we get, and I love it. It shares the same basic melody as the day version and adapts it perfectly to the jazz feel. Braix, Zeila, and I have already made sheets for it; that's how stunning it is.

I'm having really high hopes for the rest of this soundtrack. Are Go Ichinose and Hitomi Sato back on the composition team? Given this track and the jazz we've seen from then in the past, I think and hope so. Can't wait until it's released next month :3
#5767
Music / Pokémon Soundtrack Discussion with Latios
October 22, 2016, 09:06:00 AM
Hey all, this will be a place where I'll share my thoughts on various Pokémon tracks, and hold discussions on them with you guys. I'll be choosing tracks that will come from anywhere and everywhere across the Pokémon universe, from the most popular and iconic themes to ones you almost certainly haven't heard before. Feel free to join in; we can discuss anything like the context of a track in the game, analysis of techniques used by the composers, similarities with other tracks, themes across generations, or status of sheets and covers. It'll be fun!



Tracks discussed so far:

Pokémon Red & Pokémon Blue
  • Caves of Mt. Moon2
Pokémon Gold & Silver
  • S.S. Aqua3
Pokémon Sun & Pokémon Moon
  • Hau'oli City (Day)1
  • Hau'oli City (Night)1
Pokémon Bystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity
  • Pokémon Paradise4

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#5768
Nintendo / Re: Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon
October 21, 2016, 08:30:56 PM
Quote from: braixen1264 on October 20, 2016, 05:44:32 PMI'M CALLING IT HERE OKAY
I'M ARRANGING THE WILD POKEMON BATTLE THEME kthxbai
And I the trainer battle theme.
#5769
Off-Topic / Re: Made mah day.
October 21, 2016, 07:39:40 PM
The almighty NSM Panel has been around for over two years now. Woo
#5770

Thanks Dusk for fixes! Looks much better now. Might need a few more minor touches later on, but yeah for now here it is.
#5771
Quote from: duyencold on October 20, 2016, 08:00:42 PMHarue han beonman geudaen tteoollyeojwoyo miss you
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Geudae hanmadie naneun useoyo
Geoulcheoreom maeil sarayo
Naui haruneun geudaeui geosijyo
but who was fone??
#5772
But Insig already claimed those

Also who are you?
#5773
But... you just joined a few minutes ago?
#5774
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=6444

To prematurely avoid dealing with this issue in the future:

If you would like your sheets to be submitted (editing may be involved) in the case of accidental death disappearance, please make one post below containing:
- Time of inactivity (since last post) past which you would like your sheets to be edited/submitted by someone else
- To whom you give permission to edit/submit your sheets
- Any other specifics about how you want your sheets to be handled

Or post that you don't want your sheets to be submitted at all.

Examples:
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"If I'm inactive for more than 6 months, I give permission for anyone to submit my sheets."

"I do not give anyone permission to submit my sheets"

"If you don't see me around for 3 months, <Person A>, <Person B>, and the updaters can make necessary changes and submit for me."
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I'll start: As for me, if I'm inactive for a month the updaters can do as they please with any of my sheets.
#5775
Quote from: Olimar12345 on October 20, 2016, 08:43:02 AMIf a figure containing two sixteenth notes followed by an eighth note appeared in something with swung eighth notes, it would be played straight
That applies to an eighth note followed by two sixteenths then too?