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Quote from: Libera on April 08, 2019, 04:11:39 PMHow about including the harmony line in bars 17-30?  It entirely moves in thirds or sixths with the main melody which makes it pretty easy to play.  I've written it in for this picture.
If you're worried about it being too tricky or heavy, you could drop the lower octave in favour of the harmony line.  The thirds/sixths are very pretty in the original and I just think it'd be nice to include them.
That's a great idea! I went ahead and added those, thanks for the suggestion!
Woah this is so cool, happy birthday NSM!! Wonderful job to everyone who worked on this!! It's so nice to finally have a mobile-friendly layout too.
Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2019, 09:38:40 AMNice work! Notes look good except m. 15 beat 4 LH should be an E instead of an A. And in the octaves at the end, there's some harmony you may want to consider adding (D# E# F# G#).
Oops I'll definitely fix those, thanks!

Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2019, 09:38:40 AMI do have a couple of other suggestions, though:
- If you use a repeat structure for some parts that are currently the same in your piano reduction, everything could fit on one page; here's what that would roughly look like:
I never thought of doing the repeats like that, it would be nice to get it on one page!

Quote from: Latios212 on April 07, 2019, 09:38:40 AM- The offbeat dyads in the A section look fairly uncomfortable to reach in places. For the places where the bass plays G they have to be played by the right hand instead, and that could get in the way of executing the 16th note runs smoothly. One thing you can try (see if you like) is raising the bass by an octave so the left hand can play everything on the lower staff, although this would require smoothing the transitions to and from the other section to avoid jumping the bass. How do you want this part to be played? Play around with it and see what you like.
I was intending it to be played by the right hand but wrote it in the bass clef for spacing reasons (and I probably should have indicated that in the score). I have small hands so I definitely can't reach that at all with my left hand! I knew it would be a bit difficult with the 16th notes, I just don't have a good idea of how difficult it is since I'm not a very good pianist myself. I can try the bass the octave up as well and maybe I'll find an actual pianist (aka not myself) to get some input on that.

I have class in a few mins so I don't have time to do the edits now but I'll get them done as soon as I can!
Thanks again for the feedback!

EDIT: Sorry I'm in the midst of exams and busier than I thought but I'll revisit this early next week.
Alright here is the revised arrangement! I didn't add those eighth notes in the countermelody because I thought they would conflict with the melody, but that melody should now be correct. I also moved the middle voice to the left hand as suggested.
Quote from: Libera on March 25, 2019, 09:11:53 AMJust popping in to say a couple of things.

There are definitely some issues with muddling of voices at the moment.  For reference, these are the first sixteen bars of the piece, with the melody written in the top staff and the countermelody written in the bottom staff.  I've put in lines that show where you jump around in your arrangement in what you are notating as the melody.

Generally speaking this is not what you want in an arrangement.  Above all, the melody should be easy to find and bring out while you are playing, which is just not the case here because you jump between parts so frequently.  Particularly of note is the lack of the D -> C# in bar 7-8, and the Bs on beat 3 in bars 2, 6 and 10 (which I think is what Latios was talking about.)  The way to get around this is by using multiple voices, but the second voice is currently being taken up by another part in the right hand and going to three voices is going to be way too confusing I think.
Thank you for the explanation, I think I understand what Latios was describing now! My ear was confusing the two lines but now that I see it written out it it's easier to pick out those melody notes. I'll try re-arranging some stuff tomorrow when I get the chance!

Quote from: Libera on March 25, 2019, 09:11:53 AMOn a different note I'd like to say that I don't think the high string parts are worth including (for playability and clarity reasons), and that I agree with Latios on moving the final right hand notes down an octave (as that is what the melody line does).
I had a reason for the way I did it but that also makes sense, I think it'll sound fine either way so I'm happy to change it if that's what people think will sound better :)

Thanks again to both of you for the help (and patience)!
Quote from: Latios212 on March 23, 2019, 10:58:40 AMThat's fine if you want to keep the upper voice notes! I'd avoid sticking anything else near the inner voice since it'll likely get too cramped, but you can consider writing in the main melody along with the upper voice where the main melody is currently absent, like writing in the B in m. 6 beat 3, D on m. 7 beat 1, and C# on beat 3 and other similar spots. Another thing to consider is that the left hand can easily play both the lower and middle voices, so you have a bit of room to fiddle with the upper right hand part if you like.
I'm afraid I'm not hearing the missing melody notes you're referring to, which instrument are they in? To me it sounds like the clarinet and flute are playing a complementary line that makes up the main melody and the strings are playing pads in the background (which I left out of the arrangement for playability's sake). I hadn't thought about the left hand playing both lower lines though, so if the string parts are more important than I realized maybe I could re-arrange some stuff and fit them in.

Quote from: Latios212 on March 23, 2019, 10:58:40 AMYou're welcome! (Though m. 23 beat 2 still isn't E :P)
Aaah I thought I had updated the attached files but I must have re-attached the old ones by accident, it should be fixed now.
Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMFor measures 2, 6-7, and 10 the top layer you wrote in doesn't follow the melody that's written elsewhere. Is it meant to be a combination of the main melody and the higher voice?
It is meant to be a combination of the melody and upper voice, for some reason I've always heard those as part of the same melody and it sounds pretty bare without the upper voice to my ears. Perhaps it would make more sense to sustain the melody note through those bars and have the extra notes as part of the second layer with the inner voice?

Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMAside from that, beat 2 of measure 23 (LH) should be an E instead of a D, and the RH rhythm in m. 26 is incorrect. I also think the octave in the last measure would be better off lowered by an octave, but that's up to you. The original also has a quarter rest at the end of the loop instead of holding the A's throughout the entire last measure.
I was having a lot of trouble hearing the inner notes in measure 23 so you're probably right, thanks! And my bad on those rhythms, I'll get those fixed up as well :P

I'm a little torn on the octaves at the end, I could see some benefits and disadvantages either way. My reasoning behind the way I did it was to reflect the outer notes of the orchestration (with the flute up on that high A). Maybe another option would be have the left hand sustain the A4 above that eighth note phrase it plays to fill out the lower end a bit, what's your feeling on that?

Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMGreat first submission :3
Thank you! And thanks for the corrections/suggestions as well, it's really helpful!
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 20, 2019, 01:59:42 PMYou sure you want underscores in your arranger name? We can work some fancy magic if you want that changed.

Actually, I prefer the underscores if that's okay. Thanks for asking though!
Submission #2!

Submission #1!

Quote from: on March 17, 2019, 05:21:56 PMI wouldn't know enough theory to give you honest thoughts about beaming in that case, but what if I were to change the third LH 8th note in each measure to a quarter? That might solve the problem, and even if the MIDI will sound different, that won't matter.

I think it could be done either way. Using a quarter note is a more conventional rhythm and as the arranger you could choose to write it that way to make it more familiar to anyone reading it and leave the interpretation up to the performer. But if your intention is to replicate the sound of the original as closely as possible, with each note being of equal length, then you might choose to keep it as eighth notes (though I'd still suggest breaking the beams into beats for readability). It's entirely in your creative license as arranger to do it whichever way suits your goal for the arrangement!
Yay more Dragon Warrior/Quest music!!

Quote from: on March 15, 2019, 07:45:01 PMSimple enough piece. Glad this one worked so well, especially with the LH stave-crossing.
Maybe this is just me but I'd probably just play those thirds in the right hand and leave the left hand out on those beats so I don't have to make those large leaps. I'm not an amazing piano player though so that's just my unqualified opinion :)

Quote from: on March 15, 2019, 07:45:01 PMAccidentals were (slightly) easier on this one. But I went out of my way to make that battle intro happen, so y'all better appreciate it.
I think many would agree that the battle theme just doesn't feel right without that intro so good call!

My only comment on this arrangement is that it might be easier to read if the eighth notes in the left hand (starting at measure 3) were separated into beats instead of being beamed all together--something about seeing three eighth notes beamed together in 4/4 is a little jarring for me. But I'm not sure if that's an actual rule or just my personal preference, and it's a pretty minor complaint.

Anyways good job on these three sheets, and since this is my first time in your thread I also want to say congrats on all the successful arrangements you've made thus far!!
Help! / Re: The "Who Composed This?" Topic
March 14, 2019, 11:50:05 AM
Hey everyone, I was hoping to arrange some of the music from Harvest Moon DS. Unfortunately, the only sources I could find for this game list no less than six composers! I haven't been able to find a breakdown of tracks, would it be appropriate to list all six composers of collaborators? Or alternately if any one has other ideas of sources to check I'd love to hear that too :)

Link to sources:
Thanks to both of you for the feedback! I've moved the elements you suggested, Sebastian.

Although this is my first piano arrangement I have done a fair bit of arranging for various ensembles, including an orchestration course with a prof who was very strict about notation and engraving. The music on this site has been very helpful to me through the years so I'm happy to contribute if I can!

EDIT: Just wanted to add recordings of the first two songs I arranged so here they are!

Harvest Moon 64 - Spring

Harvest Moon 64 - Fall