Quote from: Libera on April 06, 2023, 03:07:48 PMFor what it's worth, I also prefer Latios' picture to the double dotted notes in 23.Fair enough. Two concurring opinions is good enough for me, so I'll make the swap.

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Show posts MenuQuote from: Libera on April 06, 2023, 03:07:48 PMFor what it's worth, I also prefer Latios' picture to the double dotted notes in 23.Fair enough. Two concurring opinions is good enough for me, so I'll make the swap.
Quote from: Latios212 on March 27, 2023, 03:08:04 PMOne option to consider as a "middle ground" of sorts is tying the half to a dotted quarter:Interesting... I also hadn't considered that, but that definitely works here! Yeesh, all the options that all work.... However, I think the double-dotted note works well to keep the lack of ties from cluttering the sheet, so I think I'll stick to the double-dotted note. Thanks for the suggestion, Latios!
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Quote from: XiaoMigros on March 24, 2023, 12:15:03 AMFair point! One solution I thought of is using a double-dotted note instead of a dotted one here to hide the rest without ties, but I'm not a particular fan of double dotted notes so you can decide what you think is bestHuh. I hadn't thought about using double-dotted notes, mostly because I, too, am not a fan of them. However, in this situation, with it smoothing over the rest, I think it's actually acceptable, especially since the length of the note is obvious or, probably more accurately, not super important to get exact. Besides, it's not like a double-dotted quarter or eighth where you have to start doing some serious math, here, it's just an eighth note left over, which isn't syncopated, so it's easy to follow, play, and sight-read. So, I've gone ahead and replaced it with that double-dotted half. Thanks for the suggestion!![]()
Quote from: XiaoMigros on March 23, 2023, 12:28:32 AM
- In m20, 23 & 28 you have rests in the RH, is there a thought behind that? I'd suggest extending the note lengths to cover them, or it might imply non continuity concerning pedaling/phrasing.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on March 23, 2023, 12:28:32 AMGood call -- removed!
- It's a bit odd to have a slur in m8 and nowhere else, so that would probably best be removed.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on March 23, 2023, 12:28:32 AMOoh! It certainly looks nicer in quite a few respects. However, I think I'll stick with this; I checked Behind Bars, and she said that the stems should "point towards the centre of the system". So, given its optionality, I'll stick with what I've got.
- To make the cross-staff sections less visually interfering, you could flip the stems to get something like this:
Entirely optional, I just thought it looked a little neaterSpoiler
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Quote from: Libera on February 25, 2023, 01:13:26 PMThis looks great. The only thing I noticed is in bar 20. I'm not sure I hear the low G rearticulated on beat 4. It just sounds like the B-D there and the G held over with the pedal. I think it sounds a bit too heavy with the G as well compared to the original.Agreed. The triad definitely feels very heavy, so I think you're right with the B-D dyad.
Quote from: Bloop on January 28, 2023, 08:20:43 AMAbout the key signatures, m13-16 is definitely a bit weird. The chords all seem to function like a piece in C major, but it never really fully gets there. If it was a part taken out of another piece it'd probably have been C major, but in this case I think G major works fine too. However, for m21-24, this is a lot more clearly in A minor, so you could change the key signature here. It won't affect the readability much to have another key signature change (especially to one that has no accidentals).Fair enough. I've changed m.21-24 to A minor. I could change m.13-16 to C major, but I'd prefer minimizing the number of key changes as much as possible.
Quote from: Bloop on January 28, 2023, 08:20:43 AM-m17 and 19: Maybe mp might work better as a dynamic marking instead of mf in these two bars? Especially the accompaniment sounds a bit quieter than mf compared to the f in m18 and 20.Yeeeaaaah, I'm not very good with dynamics yet and I think you've got a good point here. Changed!
Quote from: Bloop on January 28, 2023, 08:20:43 AM-m18 and 20: I think you can change these pedal markings to two lines of two beats (instead of one line for the whole measure). A player might interpret as having to press the pedal for the whole bar, since it's currently specifically notated that way.Good point. I had always thought of it that way, but I guess I didn't think about writing it that way too.
Quote from: Bloop on January 28, 2023, 08:20:43 AM-m22 and 24: I hear a C above the L.H. A in beat 1 here too, like in m21.Oops -- this one slipped by me when I did Xiao's fixes. Fixed! However, did you also mean to include m.24? I don't hear anything extra and a C would certainly not work for beat 1.
Quote from: Bloop on January 28, 2023, 08:20:43 AM-m28: The pedal mark here should be extended for one more beat. You can change the C in the L.H. beat 2 to a half note too then, so it's a bit more clear where the pedal line stops.Yeah! This looks a lot cleaner and flows a lot better. Me likey!
-m32: I think you can change the L.H. C in beat 2 to a dotted half note: leaving a rest after notes might suggest the note needs to be dampened, even though there's a pedal mark that says it shouldn't.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMTo adress your notes:Sounds good. Thanks!
- I think it's clear enough with the double barlines alone. Besides, anyone playing this will probably be aware of how it fits together in the game.
- The key signature as you have it is fine, even though the track does dance it around a little. It dips into some C-centric stuff in the first half, but the second half is made up of 2 I-IV-V-I patterns, so all in all the cadence is definitely centered around a tonic of G major.
- m37-39 looks great like that! If you want you could add slurs to each fourth-eighth pattern but I think it's clear what the arranger's intent here is.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMFair enough. I've added some more slurs. I haven't added any to m.5-12 mostly because, according to what Libera said to me once (which I may be misusing here), slurs are best when they show contrast. Since the phrasing for m.5-12 is the natural phrasing and there aren't any additional articulations, I feel that adding slurs here wouldn't do anything to contrast. But, I reserve the right to be wrong here.
- Slurring: I think the slurs you have are great, and help show the performer how to structure their playing. That said, I think the first page in particular is a little sparse, so looking over it would be appreciated.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMNuuuuuu don't make me do it...
- m4 & m40: I think one continuous roll on beat 3 would more accurately reflect the original
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMYeah, this was related to my 3rd point and I originally had it as such, but I wasn't sure, so I just changed it back because it's cleaner. Given that m.37-39 looks good to you, then m.5-12 are fine too.
- m5-12: The LH pattern sounds like it does in m37-39, with beats 2 and 4 not sustained as long as 1 and 3. Changing note lengths and/or adding slurs would help make this distinction.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMGood catch! In fact, I think the m.20 b.4 G major chord was an entire octave lower, not just the B & D.
- m18 b4: The D in the LH chord is an octave lower
- Same thing with m20, I think the B might also be lowered here
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMI forget about beaming over rests. I agree, this looks nice!
- m21-24: I feel like the LH could use some more slurs. In the RH, I would recommend writing the staccato dotted eighth notes as just regular eighth notes (no staccato). Additionally, I think beaming over the resulting and already existing 16th rests would look neat.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMYep, you're right! I've added those.
- Beat 1 in the LH of m21-23 is missing a C just above the A.
- Beat 1 in the RH of m25, 27 & 29 is missing an F just below the A.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMI disagree. When I slow it down and raise the pitch an octave, I can clearly hear an ascending C major chord: E-G-C.
- I think the C on beat 2 of m28 is an octave lower.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMYeah, I felt that was awkward, especially contrasting the parallel structure of measure 28, so this is a good fix!
- m32: It might be worth either moving the C in beat 2 to the LH, or copying it over and adding parentheses.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMI do and I remember spending quite a while on this. It's really subtle, but even now when I slow it down, I can clearly hear a F-G resolution across beats 2.5-3 and that G doesn't come from anywhere else, so I'm pretty sure it's not a harmonic or from a sustain. It may be too subtle to care, but I'm pretty sure it's there.
- m39 beat 3: I don't hear the G in the RH.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMYep. Something I've learned through this that I didn't know prior!
- the rit. markings and similar are best written above the staves.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 04:24:57 AMCorrect. Animal Crossing: New Horizons was released in March 2020, just a couple weeks after the pandemic quarantines started (which I couldn't have been more happy to have during that rough timeDoes the copyright have 2 years in it because this track was released in a later update? I'm not that familiar with New Horizons lore :p
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 16, 2023, 01:01:57 AMIt could probably go either way but I think it would be better in the lower layer for 2 reasons: 1) Showing the divide between melody and harmony, and 2) Consistency.Fair enough. I don't really have a strong opinion, so I'll set it to the 2nd layer for now.
Side note (pun not intended), there's an Ab in m13 that would be better off in the lower layer.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 16, 2023, 01:01:57 AMThose are both strong points! There's no doubt that leaving the sheet as it stands is a valid option. Here's the specifics anyway, just in case:Honestly, having tried these out, they're not too bad!
1) m12 b2.5: Moving this one to the RH would avoid the hands getting a little close and give the LH time for the jump. Also, m11 b4.5 may or may not be more comfortable in the RH as well.
2) m22: Some of the high Fs and As might be easier to play with the RH, they would fit pretty nicely there imo. The drawback is that the RH part gets a little more complicated.
Feel free to ignore this!
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 16, 2023, 01:01:57 AMThe poco rit. and a tempo markings should both be the same height.Ah yeah. That's a little thing, but good point.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 02:33:16 AMAll great advice and all either correct or appropriate! I am quite surprised you were able to hear some of these as they slipped by me for a while! All implemented -- thanks Xiao!
- m8: I hear the Bb below the F in the LH.
- m9: I don't hear the middle notes in the RH triads
- Same thing for the RH's Ab in m12
- In m13 I hear a low Db instead of a Bb in the RH
- I don't hear the Gb in m14, but I do hear an Ab on beat 3.
- Though I'd like them to be there, I don't hear the Fs in the chords at m15 b4 and m16 b1.
- m27: The last two notes in the RH also play in octaves. You can add the lower Bb in parentheses, or you can add parentheses to the Bb in the LH.
- m31: Despite the 8va getting in the way a little, the rit. marking is still best positioned above the staves, like you did everywhere else.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 02:33:16 AMHmmm, I can't hear this one. Also, I'm also not sure why it'd be there in the first place? Maybe it's just me. Anyway, I'll leave it out for now until I can ascertain otherwise.
- m15: I think I hear an F just above the Eb in the LH at beat 1.5
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 02:33:16 AMThe lower F I hear (good catch!), but I can't hear the higher F. Same as the previous point, I'll keep checking and I'll add it once I'm more confident it's there.
- m24 beat 4: I hear an F above the Bb (in the RH), and I think I hear one below it too.
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 02:33:16 AMA variety of reasons, most of them stemming from the idea of "still holding a note that is about to be restruck before the duration's up." However, with your notes (pun intended) above, a lot of those have been addressed and now it just looks better to be consistent. I still have questions about m.16, since, while I could make the RH Eb a layer 2 note, the resolution is handled by the LH and there rest of the notes in the measure are singles for the RH, so, to me, it looks like that Eb is hanging. So, I'm not sure quite what to do there.
- m9-16: In the RH you're using two layers a little inconsistently, is there a reason you wrote some chords in two layers and some in one?
Quote from: XiaoMigros on January 13, 2023, 02:33:16 AMYeeeah, I thought about this point while arranging it, especially since the LH gets up into the stratosphere a bit. Firstly, I think the sheet looks really clean and adding stuff to denote that it should be handled by the other hand will just gunk it up. That triviality aside, I still feel that since the LH is really just doing one thing and that's fine and so if the player wants to hand something off, I feel that should be their decision, not necessarily mine. If you have some specifics, I'd be open to hear them, though!
- For this section it might also be easier for the performer to play some of the high LH notes with the RH. There's nothing problematic with what you have currently but it might be worth trying some things out if you haven't already!
- m21-23: Same comment about moving some LH notes to the RH; it's playable as is but you might find it could be easier.
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