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So vote count goes:

Nakah: 1(dude)
TST: 2(yugi, Mashi)
Mashi: 2(nakah, bird)

   Kitb so far, with 15 minutes to go.

Not to mention, why does dude just suddenly jump ship with mashi and place a vote on me without explaining why he's convinced? Even the log shows a strange warmth between Mashi and Dude(although I take it you both always refer to one another this way(Im obv just jealous)). Nevertheless, it leaves a vibe of a sort of partnership here.

As of right now I feel most uncomfortable about Mashi, but this is closely followed by Dude, who has been inactive yet lingering in the background all game. Take the very first post of Night 1 for example, Dude tries making connection to the Human PM in a half-serious manner. After dude I feel suspicious about bubbles next due to the log, but both Bubbles, Bird, and Yugi have been both suspicious at times and equally semi-inactive so it's hard to really take a stab at who could be working with who.

Well, I suspect I'll die either this phase or the night phase, so I'll just state this for the thread no in hopes of helping the remaining(albeit inactive as FUUU) humans.


I'm the brotherhood leader, fools! Anyone want to counterclaim?

Why am I coming out and telling you all this now? Because if I can stop everyone from lynching me instead of Mashi then I can at least recruit one last member before night is over and I'm dead anyways. I suspect I'm at the top of the wolves' list at this point since they have yet to guess me, even though I'm still one of the more active players this far into the game.

So here's the full log that you want to see so badly Mashi:

      
19:56      *** Nakah joined #twgnsm
It is now NiGhT 3.  (Yes, I really like that joke.)
Topic set by Liggy on Sun Nov 03 2013 21:18:25 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
19:57   Nakah   damn I've been inactive
19:57   Nakah   MG wtf are you still doing here
19:57   Nakah   Master_Gamer38
19:57   Nakah   BwaHaHA

20:10      *** Greg joined #twgnsm
20:11   Greg   Hey Nakah
20:15   Nakah   grreeg
20:15   Nakah   I think Mashi is a wolf
20:16   Nakah   He's giving off that palpatine MW vibe
20:16   Nakah   what are your thoughts on him
20:16   Nakah   Greg
20:20   Nakah   Greg if I die at the end of this phase
20:21   Nakah   Lynch Mashi first, then Bird, then Dude
20:21   Nakah   then yugi
20:21   Nakah   then bubbles
20:21   Greg   If I die, definitely get Mashi.
20:22   Nakah   why do you think you'll die
20:22   Greg   I may or may not have hinted that I was in the brotherhood to him and bubbles in the chat.
20:22   Greg   As a test, you know.
20:22   Greg   I'm pretty expendable.
20:22   Nakah   oh shit if you hinted it then send me a scren shot and I'll use it as evidence against him
20:22   Nakah   if you die
20:22   Greg   I don't have the log, dude.
20:22   Nakah   I recruited TST
20:22   Greg   Which is lame. But I was at school.

So the part about recruiting TST is a lie, because at the last second I felt someone else was the better choice.

I recruited Greg night 1, his seering results were blocked. No one was recruited night 2 because I had no assurance of anyone's humanity and didnt want to jeopardize the brotherhood just for a blue power.

Mashi you make valid points about Greg's punctuation and prose, but for an informal chat is that really enough to base a suspicion off of? You even state yourself that an attempt to go out with a 'big bang' is far-fetched. The story you're trying to feed us is full of "what ifs" and "it's a possibility it's fake." There's nothing obviously forged in the chat, and knowing now who the brotherhood leader is should clarify that.

So lynch someone else so I can recruit another player and hopefully we can figure out a plan before I die. There's a good chance the wolves are about to guess me anyways tonight.

There's going to be so many phantoms

what a terrible post to start a new page with.

I'm guilty of editting that for bbc fixing purposes. sorry I couldnt let the chance to make some analogy go to waste.

Who's it gonna be?


Also why does Mashi respond to my vote against with an unexplained vote against me? He has yet to provide anything from the thread or elsewhere that shows any sign of me being a wolf. Instead, his vote is backed up by saying greg doesn't type that way and so the log must therefore be forged. He won't even acknowledge the possibility that it's real, which I think a human would at least consider.

Even if that is the only discussion between you, greg, and bubbles, it's still shown that greg might have some sort of knowledge of the brotherhood with the confidence he shows about the seering results. Even if neither of you are wolves, greg still felt that he had reason not to trust Mashi, and said so in that same chat.

Talking about the seering...

<Greg> I figure it's probably more than likely the wolves blocked this one, actually. That might be why no one's coming forward.
[2013-11-03 20:36:34] <Mashi> Except the chances of the Wolf infiltrating it become greater every recruitment.
[2013-11-03 20:36:44] <Mashi> Hmm, maybe.
[2013-11-03 20:39:21] <Greg> Anyway if there's any useful seer results I'm sure they would have come forward
[2013-11-03 20:39:40] <Greg> If they got a green they probably want to keep it quiet so they can recruit that person[/b]

Why is Greg able to come up with that answer, while Mashi keeps questioning why the seering results have not been posted, or why the brotherhood member hasn't claimed to the thread? It sounds like Mashi was either completely out of the loop on realizing those two possibilities that Greg states, or feigning ignorance in order to gather information. The more I read what Greg says, the more believable it becomes that he was in the brotherhood.

So why would I wolf Greg if he told me he were in the brotherhood less than 30 minutes before the phase ended? If anything I would have kept him alive to build a trust and try to work from there towards the brotherhood leader. It's still makes it a long stretch that I would wolf Greg, forge around our chat logs, and using it to post an attack all in the name of bringing down Mashi.

The log shows Mashi stating more than once that he thinks the brotherhood members should post their seering results to the thread. This is basically a terrible idea in all but one instance: In the case of seering a red. This is because whenever the brotherhood member(s) reveal themselves, they narrow down the wolves' choices for the brotherhood leader. So even if the seering results were green, revealing that to the thread is more detrimental to the humans.

Why else would he pull that brotherhood shit with me? Because he was a wolf? If he were he wouldn't have been wolfed. What would I gain as a wolf for forging a chat log about a dead player claiming brotherhood? The hopes of lynching you consequently? That makes it seem like I fear your presence in the game too much to let you live. If I did fear your presence that much I would just wolf you as a wolf instead of launching some crazy plot during the day phase. Does anyone else see the bs here?

Either way, what do I gain from forging a chat log against the two of you if I were a wolf. And goddamn if I haven't been seer'd by now.

[I may or may not have hinted that I was in the brotherhood to him and bubbles in the chat.]

So a little before night ended I was in the chat and greg was there, talking about what he had thought about Mashi, and this is what he said:

20:21   Greg   If I die, definitely get Mashi.
20:22   Nakah   why do you think you'll die
20:22   Greg   I may or may not have hinted that I was in the brotherhood to him and bubbles in the chat.
20:22   Greg   As a test, you know.
20:22   Greg   I'm pretty expendable.
20:22   Nakah   oh shit if you hinted it then send me a scren shot and I'll use it as evidence against him
20:22   Nakah   if you die
20:22   Greg   I don't have the log, dude.
20:22   Greg   Which is lame. But I was at school.


So before this, I was already getting a sort of palpatine-esque MW sith-lord vibe from Mashi. With what's stated above in mind, I'm feeling a lot more in my gut towards Mashi than bubbles. It seems like Mashi is irregularly active and taking charge for a human. Bubbles seems to being playing the back burner, which is more characteristic for a human. I realize Mashi is probably this active every game, but just his/her(lol?) approach to the thread has flags raising, and not just only in my own head it's clearly evident.

So I'm pretty firm on the idea of Mashi today.

This weekend was really busy for me, sorry this got neglected. I missed voting so I accept my phantom. I can't really make out what everyone is arguing about, but I'll be in the chat for discussion.

And here I thought Toby seemed rather wolfy

Yes sorry I also had life become really busy the past two days. Should be quieting down again, and I'll have to read the thread again because I have the feels that the wolves wanted toby dead for a reason beyond just a wolfing. So if anyone can find a relation between his posts and another's from last phase, that may be of use.

[fank]

I'm switching to fank because something about his reasoning against TST makes me really uneasy. I human wouldn't even be trying to narrow down the brotherhood leader, at least not publicly. I'll post more when I get home.