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First arrangement
« on: April 17, 2019, 03:36:30 PM »

Hello everyone,

I'm working on my first full-fledged piano-arrangement, which at I wish to submit at some point, and I am interested in getting some feedback on what I have right now. I have some issues with getting everything to work in Finale notepad 2012, since I made the original score in Noteflight.
The piece I'm working on is "Lion King Caineghis" from the Fire Emblem Path or Radiance game.

This is what I have right now: MIDI, .mus and PDF.

I couldn't manage to add measure numbers, remove the Pno bits, hide rests or add a 8vb part, but maybe that is not possible in the free version of Finale. Also I didnt figure out how to add the '[' to specify certain parts to be played with the other hand.

For the musical aspect, in the middle part (where the bass is not played in octaves) I am having some trouble figuring out all the voices, so there might be some missing or wrong. Sometimes parts of voices were knowingly left out for playability. There still are multiple voices, but everything should be playable, albeit difficult sometimes. The bass in octaves are supposed to be played an octave lower, but I left it like this for now to make it more readable.

Anyways, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about it.

Cheers!

P.S. I'm also working on 'a Messenger' from the same game, and have made an instrumental version of 'Hey, Cid!' from FF IV, which I might make into a piano version as well.
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Re: First arrangement
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2019, 03:57:13 PM »

Just tried playing it through on piano and it sounds pretty great. There's a few notation issues here and there, but those can mostly be attributed to the limitations of finale notepad. My one suggestion was going to be to lower the LH an octave, but it seems that was your intention. On a quick listen to the original, I'm hearing a LH harmony instead of octaves, it after trying to play that it just sounds muddy. I'm not sure when/if I'll have time to look harder at this, but it's pretty solid at first glance.

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Re: First arrangement
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2019, 06:57:30 PM »

Thanks for the response!

On a quick listen to the original, I'm hearing a LH harmony instead of octaves, it after trying to play that it just sounds muddy.

I completely missed the LH harmony, so thanks for pointing it out. I will try if I can figure it out, even though it might not get into the transcription because of the muddy sound. Part of the reason I'm starting to transcribe is to practice my ear.

Also, do you maybe have tips to figure out what is going on in crowded sections (parts were are alot of instruments are playing)? Especially for the middle register. I have tried slowing it down, changing the pitch and EQing down some registers. Maybe I just need better ears/more practice.
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Re: First arrangement
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 12:52:34 AM »

Hi, welcome to NinSheetMusic! Great first arrangement, and it's rare to see someone try to tackle something from the Tellius games :o

I couldn't manage to add measure numbers, remove the Pno bits, hide rests or add a 8vb part, but maybe that is not possible in the free version of Finale. Also I didnt figure out how to add the '[' to specify certain parts to be played with the other hand.
Ask away here! It's pretty simple for someone to clean those up for you, so don't worry about it too much yet. help topic

Also, do you maybe have tips to figure out what is going on in crowded sections (parts were are alot of instruments are playing)? Especially for the middle register. I have tried slowing it down, changing the pitch and EQing down some registers. Maybe I just need better ears/more practice.
There are a bunch of different audio tools you can use to assist with transcribing - I personally use AudioStretch and find it really helpful for for all purposes, though other people may suggest other things. That said, this soundtrack in particular tends to be quite densely orchestrated and difficult to piece apart... definitely just lots of practice transcribing things will help you improve at it.

My one suggestion was going to be to lower the LH an octave, but it seems that was your intention. On a quick listen to the original, I'm hearing a LH harmony instead of octaves, it after trying to play that it just sounds muddy. I'm not sure when/if I'll have time to look harder at this, but it's pretty solid at first glance.
I completely missed the LH harmony, so thanks for pointing it out. I will try if I can figure it out, even though it might not get into the transcription because of the muddy sound. Part of the reason I'm starting to transcribe is to practice my ear.
I agree with Maelstrom here that you could definitely do some work to adjust the left hand (at least in the first part which I looked at just now) to make it sound heavier than it currently does (and also keep it from overlapping with the right hand). There's a few specific things I can suggest, but it'd be good for you to try this out on a piano and see what feels and sounds right to you. The good thing is that the harmony in the beginning is fairly straightforward (Am, C, D, F, etc.) so it's easy to figure out what pitches you can experiment with. If you need help or want suggestions, don't hesitate to ask!
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