[MUL] Dark Souls II - "Remains" by Libera

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Submission Information:
Series: Other
Game: Dark Souls II
Console: Multiplatform
Title: Remains
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Libera

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[Libera]

This track is actually exclusive to the Scholar of the First Sin edition of the game, which is what I indicated on the sheet, but I thought it wasn't really necessary to have a separate game entry on the site for it so I just listed it under DSII.  I think that's the most sensible thing to do but if you want to have a discussion about it I'm open to.

[mikey]

all my friends tell me sotfs is a completely different game :V
what do we usually do for DLC exclusive tracks?  All I can think of is shovel knight, and we counted those as separate games

[Latios212]

I don't think we ever made a hard rule about this, but it depends on how it's released. Some DLC, like that of recent Fire Emblem games, is pretty small and supplementary to the main game. Others like Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna – The Golden Country are more self-contained "expansion packs" with their own separate (in this case, physical) releases. Torna also had a separate release for its soundtrack.

I don't know anything about this series, so I'll leave it up to you guys to decide what's most appropriate. Would people think to look for it separately from the base game?

[mikey]

the DLC isn't normal DLC from what I hear, it actually changes things from the base game, like moves items around or something
some people consider sotfs to be worse than vanilla DS2, so obviously there's a big enough difference between the two to affect people's judgements negatively
ultimately if there's not a rule about how we're doing DLC it would make more sense to keep it together with DS2 (even though sotfs would be right underneath it in the database) just because dark souls soundtracks aren't robust enough to justify splitting individual games up by DLC

[Libera]

all my friends tell me sotfs is a completely different game :V

Obviously it is not a completely different game.  Both games share almost all the same stuff.  Particularly the music has an almost entire overlap.

I don't know anything about this series, so I'll leave it up to you guys to decide what's most appropriate. Would people think to look for it separately from the base game?

Considering that SotFS only has two exclusive tracks compared to the base game with DLC, I sort of doubt it.  And even if they are looking for one of those two exclusive tracks, they're not going to miss them because they were listed under DSII.

Torna also had a separate release for its soundtrack.

Going off of that, I believe that DSII only ever had one OST release and it included everything in SotFS (that is the two exclusive tracks along with all of the tracks from the base game and dlcs).

ultimately if there's not a rule about how we're doing DLC it would make more sense to keep it together with DS2 (even though sotfs would be right underneath it in the database) just because dark souls soundtracks aren't robust enough to justify splitting individual games up by DLC

Yes, I think it just over-complicates things without any real benefit.

[Latios212]

Gosh this past month has flown right by... sorry for the wait! Checking now.

- I don't remember how to do this, but for the cresc. text in m. 18-19 I'd recommend making it so that it breaks the barline instead of intersecting it.
- Personally, I'd make bars 27-34 A minor but you don't have to by any means if you think it's better this way
- Really minor thing, but you might want to consider giving m. 50/52 a bit more space at the beginning so the 8va isn't right up against the left barline.

That's about it, the notes all look good. I think the pedal markings could be aligned better in a few places but overall sheet looks great.

[Libera]

Gosh this past month has flown right by... sorry for the wait! Checking now.

No worries, thanks for giving it a look.

- I don't remember how to do this, but for the cresc. text in m. 18-19 I'd recommend making it so that it breaks the barline instead of intersecting it.
- Really minor thing, but you might want to consider giving m. 50/52 a bit more space at the beginning so the 8va isn't right up against the left barline.

I think the pedal markings could be aligned better in a few places but overall sheet looks great.

All this should be better fixed (I had a mess around with all of the pedal markings so hopefully they're better now.)

- Personally, I'd make bars 27-34 A minor but you don't have to by any means if you think it's better this way

Yeah I'd prefer not to swap keys for 8 bars, especially when just going straight back to the old key afterwards.

New files should be up; thanks again!

[mastersuperfan]

This is nice.
- I'd put courtesy Eb's in the LH in m23 and m49.
- Perhaps add arpeggio markings to the octaves in the last measure?
- This might be a little more stylistic/mood-based, but I think a "poco rit." in the third-to-last measure might be nice. It's fine either way, though. I would suggest putting the "poco rit." in the last measure if I could, but there's not really space for it there.

[Latios212]

Looks good to me so I approve pending response to MSF's comments

[Libera]

Thanks for checking!

- I'd put courtesy Eb's in the LH in m23 and m49.

I'd prefer not to add courtesy accidentals there because its a really simple descending chromatic pattern that's copied from the previous 16 bars.  I only really add courtesies when I think it's particularly confusing and this isn't really.

- Perhaps add arpeggio markings to the octaves in the last measure?

Nice catch; I have no idea why they weren't there.  Fixed.

- This might be a little more stylistic/mood-based, but I think a "poco rit." in the third-to-last measure might be nice. It's fine either way, though. I would suggest putting the "poco rit." in the last measure if I could, but there's not really space for it there.

Hmm.  I'm not sure I hear much of a rit in bar 57...  For the final bar I think it's at least a little implied already by the rest and I don't many people are going to play that ending without loosening the tempo up anyway.  I think it's fine left as it is personally, and as you say it'd make that final bar really cramped with stuff.

[mastersuperfan]

Then I shall accept.

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