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Author Topic: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D  (Read 215 times)

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I was meaning to submit this sheet sooner or later. Might as well be for a spooky update. Here's the source:
This is the PC version of the song. It's in the N64 version, but it's arranged differently there.
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2020, 04:27:25 PM »

Here's some feedback!

Dynamics/articulation - think about these a bit. For example the RH is super quiet at the beginning, m. 8 is suddenly loud, etc.

- I think you could also write in the ascending run at the beginning as a whole tone scale.
- The m. 1-3 RH could be another octave or two up. m. 7 as well
- In m. 4 you can just denote straight eighths instead of a 4-tuplet. Maybe something like this (m. 17)
- In m. 6, extend the tie to the half note C
- The Db's in m. 11/13 and similar should be C#s. The Gb should also be F# in m. 13 and similar.
- m. 15 bas note on beat 3 sounds like D instead of C
- m. 16 beat 1 shouldn't be a half note (staccato quarter instead?)
- m. 17 sounds like an E major chord, not A minor
- Same for m. 24-25 for the above two points
- Don't think there's a grace note in m. 21?
- m. 24 is completely missing the ascending crescendoing part. It's a bit weird but something you can do at least is put a loud Bb on beat 1
- m. 24 - first notes in triplet should be F-E
- RH in m. 28-29 layer 1 - sounds like it should be an A minor chord, then F-F#-F as the half notes
- A flats in m. 31 should be G# (E major chord)
- I don't think I hear the melody A on beat 3.5 in m. 33, beat 2.5 in m. 34, or beat 3.5 in m. 35
- The bass is suddenly pretty high in m. 32-37 compared to the rest of the song, maybe consider shifting it down an octave or something?
- I think the chord in m. 37 may sound better with an A in it
- In m. 38, I would advise breaking the beams between beats 1-2 and 3-4 in the RH
- Chord in m. 39 should be E major
- Use a dotted half in m. 40 and 22
- I think the Gb in m. 40 would be better written as F# to preserve the intervals
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2020, 11:30:44 PM »

Just to show some progress, I've updated the file up to where I am right now.
- I think you could also write in the ascending run at the beginning as a whole tone scale.
- Don't think there's a grace note in m. 21?
- I don't think I hear the melody A on beat 3.5 in m. 33, beat 2.5 in m. 34, or beat 3.5 in m. 35
I'm still trying to figure out how to notate the first concern. It's a bit hard to hear, so it may take a while to get right.
For measure 21, it's more of a slight bend than a physical grace note, but since you can't particularly bend a note on piano, at least not on a non-electrical one, I used a grace note instead.
You were right about measure 34, but I do hear the A on the other two measures. They're lighter than the other notes and pretty short, but since those notes are swung, I don't see a staccato being necessary for either.
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2020, 02:00:14 AM »

I'm still trying to figure out how to notate the first concern. It's a bit hard to hear, so it may take a while to get right.
Something like this doesn't have to be super precise. I suggested just notating a run using notes from the whole tone scale. Pretty similar to what the chord is, but starting lower

For measure 21, it's more of a slight bend than a physical grace note, but since you can't particularly bend a note on piano, at least not on a non-electrical one, I used a grace note instead.
I getcha, but my point was that I don't hear the pitch bend at all there.

You were right about measure 34, but I do hear the A on the other two measures. They're lighter than the other notes and pretty short, but since those notes are swung, I don't see a staccato being necessary for either.
That's fine, I was a bit iffy on whether they're there or seemingly implied, and they certainly make sense.

Let me know when you're done revising!
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2020, 10:48:49 PM »

I getcha, but my point was that I don't hear the pitch bend at all there.
I really thought there was. I guess the synth confused me a bit.
It should be good now.
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 03:30:04 PM »

Cool. Last few things from me:
- Manually move the chord and roll marking more to the right in m. 2 to make more space around the roll marking/rest
- Measure 6 would probably be better on the next system (and the "straight" text should be an expression text so it's attached to the staff and not the page)
- End the 8va marking at the note in m. 5 instead of at the end of the bar

- m. 24 is completely missing the ascending crescendoing part. It's a bit weird but something you can do at least is put a loud Bb on beat 1
(now measure 26) Have you thought about this?

- A flats in m. 31 should be G# (E major chord)
(now m. 33) RH as well.

- The bass is suddenly pretty high in m. 32-37 compared to the rest of the song, maybe consider shifting it down an octave or something?
- I think the chord in m. 37 may sound better with an A in it
(now m. 39) I think I meant to suggest replacing the B with the A, especially if we're moving it down.
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2020, 12:28:04 AM »

(now measure 26) Have you thought about this?
I did, and I'd rather leave the part out. I'm willing to have a crescendo for the triplets like normal, but having a Bb on the first beat as suggested doesn't sound right to me, sort of out of place with the rest of the arrangement. I hope that's all right.
In addition, I thought of dragging the 8va line in measure 9 over the whole notes of 10 and 11, since the B comes from the glockenspiel part as well and I feel it sounds nicer. Thoughts?
Other changes should be done if I haven't missed any.
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2020, 05:25:26 AM »

All looks good. Real quick though, see if we can clean up the tempo marking at the beginning a bit. A few options:
- Swing! q=125
- q=125 (Swing e's)
- Swing! q=125 (e's=triplet)

Once you've got that, make sure the sizing and spacing of the notes and text are consistent as well. Then I think that's it from me ^^
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2020, 07:30:43 PM »

- q=125 (Swing e's)
All right. This is what I used.
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Re: Nine Lives' Halloween Sheet | "Fear the Forest" from Earthworm Jim 3D
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2020, 07:44:59 PM »

Cool! Approving :)
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