[MUL] Genshin Impact - "Le duc sous l'eau" by Latios212

Started by Zeta, April 12, 2024, 07:54:59 PM

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Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: Genshin Impact
Console: Multiplatform
Title: Le duc sous l'eau
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Latios212

Latios212

My arrangements and YouTube channel!

Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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Ah yes, the one from the performance event! Nice piece ;3

-m7 and 17: I hear an A in the R.H. below the C on beat 2.5 (not quite sure though), and a D below the A in beat 3.5 (a little bit more sure about this one)
-m18: I hear a Bn in the R.H. too on beat 2. I also wonder if F# in beat 1.5 might make more sense than Gb, because of the leading-tone to G expectation that gets subverted. Keeping it as Gb is fine too though ^^
-m29: It's a bit hard to hear but it feels like there's a Bb on beat 2 in the L.H. too (which would mirror m26 pretty well too)
-m30: I hear a D on the bottom of beat 1.5 R.H. too
-m35: Is there a specific reason you wrote the lower counter melody in the R.H.? It's probably easier to play it with the L.H.
-m37: I think I hear the Bb and D restruck on beat 2 too, together with the En
-m39: I think the R.H. just plays single notes in beat 2.5-3.5 (the top notes), other tones might be overtones or stuff tricking the ear
-m44: Maybe you could add a fermata or caesura at the end of this bar? There's quite a long pause and even a pedal switch before ending on the last chord.

Latios212

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m7 and 17: I hear an A in the R.H. below the C on beat 2.5 (not quite sure though), and a D below the A in beat 3.5 (a little bit more sure about this one)
The A on beat 2.5 sounds good, but the D making the fifth sounds a bit out of place, I think, so I left that out for now.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m18: I hear a Bn in the R.H. too on beat 2. I also wonder if F# in beat 1.5 might make more sense than Gb, because of the leading-tone to G expectation that gets subverted. Keeping it as Gb is fine too though ^^
I agree with both of these points! Updated accordingly :P

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m29: It's a bit hard to hear but it feels like there's a Bb on beat 2 in the L.H. too (which would mirror m26 pretty well too)
-m30: I hear a D on the bottom of beat 1.5 R.H. too
Yep!

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m35: Is there a specific reason you wrote the lower counter melody in the R.H.? It's probably easier to play it with the L.H.
Haha, I didn't even think about that. Maybe it's due to already writing it in the RH in measure 33. But I do prefer having the right hand play it, to highlight that line a bit better compared to the chords. It's not a particularly fast piece so the jump down from the high octave doesn't bother me at all.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m37: I think I hear the Bb and D restruck on beat 2 too, together with the En
I'm not totally sure I hear this one, but would be consistent with the chordiness of the rest of the section so it makes sense! That said, I really don't hear the major second between the Dn and E if the D was restruck, so I only wrote in the Bb underneath.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m39: I think the R.H. just plays single notes in beat 2.5-3.5 (the top notes), other tones might be overtones or stuff tricking the ear
I'm actually really glad you said that, because this measure was giving me by far the most trouble to play LOL. I still think I hear Bn-A on beats 3-3.5 which lead nicely into the G in the next bar, but they do double the left hand so they might not be the most necessary. I left them in for now, lemme know if you think that seems reasonable.

Quote from: Bloop on April 20, 2024, 11:16:37 AM-m44: Maybe you could add a fermata or caesura at the end of this bar? There's quite a long pause and even a pedal switch before ending on the last chord.
Works for me! Added a fermata to the last RH note (and the LH quarter note too, I guess?)

Thanks for the check, files updated :)
My arrangements and YouTube channel!

Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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Quote from: Latios212 on April 26, 2024, 05:43:04 PMHaha, I didn't even think about that. Maybe it's due to already writing it in the RH in measure 33. But I do prefer having the right hand play it, to highlight that line a bit better compared to the chords. It's not a particularly fast piece so the jump down from the high octave doesn't bother me at all.
If it was purely for visual highlighting, you could also do something like this:
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In which the player can still decide to play with the R.H. if they want. Keeping it as is is fine too though, in which the player can still decide to play it with the L.H., haha

Quote from: Latios212 on April 26, 2024, 05:43:04 PMI'm actually really glad you said that, because this measure was giving me by far the most trouble to play LOL. I still think I hear Bn-A on beats 3-3.5 which lead nicely into the G in the next bar, but they do double the left hand so they might not be the most necessary. I left them in for now, lemme know if you think that seems reasonable.
I can kinda hear the pitches in the original, but much less the actual attack of the notes, which makes me think they're overtone shenanigans. The difference isn't particularly big though, so I don't mind if you leave them in. Upon listening this part again I do think I hear a Bn above the L.H. Ab in beat 3.5, it sounded like there's more than two unique notes there.

Everything else looks good though! Maybe you could add some dynamics in the m30-32 and m38-40 sections? The rest of the piece seems to stay in that p range, but in those sections there's a bit of a crescendo and decrescendo. An actual dynamic marking might be a bit overkill, but a crescendo and decrescendo probably gets the point across that there's something happening here.

Latios212

Quote from: Bloop on May 02, 2024, 02:30:16 AMIf it was purely for visual highlighting, you could also do something like this:
In which the player can still decide to play with the R.H. if they want. Keeping it as is is fine too though, in which the player can still decide to play it with the L.H., haha
Yeah I think I'd still prefer to keep it as is, it makes the most sense to me separated on the other staff :P

Quote from: Bloop on May 02, 2024, 02:30:16 AMI can kinda hear the pitches in the original, but much less the actual attack of the notes, which makes me think they're overtone shenanigans. The difference isn't particularly big though, so I don't mind if you leave them in. Upon listening this part again I do think I hear a Bn above the L.H. Ab in beat 3.5, it sounded like there's more than two unique notes there.
It's a bit hard to tell for sure, but what I have written in right now makes the most sense to me - not cluttering with too many notes, but including a countermelodic line that fits in.

Quote from: Bloop on May 02, 2024, 02:30:16 AMEverything else looks good though! Maybe you could add some dynamics in the m30-32 and m38-40 sections? The rest of the piece seems to stay in that p range, but in those sections there's a bit of a crescendo and decrescendo. An actual dynamic marking might be a bit overkill, but a crescendo and decrescendo probably gets the point across that there's something happening here.
I wasn't sure at first since a lot of the ebb and flow of this piece (both in terms of timing and volume) is pretty loose and up to the performer to draw out, but yeah these couple of places make sense! I haven't specified a dynamic level, just added hairpins to show that it swells a bit.

Files updated! ^^
My arrangements and YouTube channel!

Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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• You could add rubato performance text to this one, there are definitely times in the original where things pick up or slow a bit.
• m37 3.0 hearing an Eb above the current notes and no An.

Latios212

Quote from: Kricketune54 on May 17, 2024, 08:23:51 PM• You could add rubato performance text to this one, there are definitely times in the original where things pick up or slow a bit.
• m37 3.0 hearing an Eb above the current notes and no An.
- Sounds good to me! Added to the tempo marking
- Oh good catch! I didn't realize this place has the same countermelody as in m. 33/35. I added an explicit flat on the Eb since it's naturaled out in the left hand previously. Looking at this again, I also added staccatos to all the beat 3+ notes in both hands since this is articulated differently from pretty much everywhere else in the piece.

Thanks for checking, updated :D
My arrangements and YouTube channel!

Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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Quote from: Latios212 on May 20, 2024, 08:03:47 PM- Sounds good to me! Added to the tempo marking
- Oh good catch! I didn't realize this place has the same countermelody as in m. 33/35. I added an explicit flat on the Eb since it's naturaled out in the left hand previously. Looking at this again, I also added staccatos to all the beat 3+ notes in both hands since this is articulated differently from pretty much everywhere else in the piece.

Sounds good on everything! Accepted as I have nothing else  :)

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