TWG XXXVI: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

Started by Jub3r7, August 06, 2012, 06:25:50 PM

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Jub isn't that great of a host.

He just needs to try harder!!!!
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^Nah he's just not a good host.
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ill forgive him after he makes the post game
8 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 12

universe-X

That's why expected you or FSM to be dead.

I actually have somewhat of a plan for the humans to win... but idk since I could be wrong about Slow.

SlowPokemon

Verm WAS obviously human, though, he pushed for a lynch of Dude. FSM hasn't done anything to prove that he's OBVIOUSLY human at all, though I also believe he's human.

Also I never accused Bubbles and I think she's human too, I'm just saying that we're down to so few, we can't overlook anyone.

Sticking to Maestro for now.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

universe-X


SlowPokemon

I can't, I'm on my phone. I went to bed 45 minutes ago. :/
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

Mashi

I'm going to agree with the MaestroUGC lynch.

Firstly, because of the wolfings.  The first two wolfings were certainly interesting ones, to say the last.  Spyro was a newer Player and hadn't even said much (if at all) in the topic.  blueflower999 was highly suspect and could potentially have been an easy lynch to survive next Day Phase.
vermilionvermin was the 'logical' wolfing.  He was evidently Human (even though certain Players are either too paranoid or dumb to have believed so prior to the wolfing) and was a good wolfing choice.  Wolfing him would have ridden the Wolf of an experienced Human who could have found him/her and would also avoid the burden of lynching a suspicious Player, which would permit the Humans to find the Wolf through process of elimination.
Which Player do I believe would try to create confusion until the eleventh hour?  My arrows point to MaestroUGC.

Secondly, the Doodle lynch.  MaestroUGC had safetied SlowPokemon prior to the shenanigans that occurred in the chat.  Throughout the chat, he expressed ambivalence towards a SlowPokemon lynching.  I feel that this is suspicious because, as vermilionvermin and I had discussed at the beginning of the game, the Wolves (or in this case, Wolf) would be more likely to stay on the sidelines and not actually push for a lynch.  A bit before the Phase ended, I voted for SlowPokemon.  MaestroUGC hadn't removed his safety (which could mean that he was hoping for a SlowPokemon lynch.  But that's stretching it.  He could have also forgotten about his safety, but I'm doubtful, since this is MaestroUGC we're talking about.), so SlowPokemon was the potential lynch.  When I voted for Doodle, MaestroUGC voiced a bit of discontent with the permitting of the vote, since he was finicky about rules (or hosting etiquette in this case).

Thirdly, he's been going for the radical options for his suspicions.  vermilionvermin, SlowPokemon, and me are his top suspicions.  I never commented on it before, but this is really silly.  All three of us should essentially be exonerated after the Doodle shenanigans.  His suspicions are allegedly out of paranoia, but why should he disregard the suspicious behaviours of others in the game as well?  My prediction is that he doesn't want to run out of options for his suspicions, since there aren't many uncleared people left in the game.  This would also explain the vermilionvermin wolfing, as mentioned before.

Fourthly, he's now suspicious of FSM-Reapr.  FSM-Reapr is someone we've overlooked to be Human simply because of his general disposition so far in the game.  Because there's not much concrete evidence establishing his humanity, he would be a perfect target for the remaining Wolf to go after in hopes of escaping the risk of being lynched himself.

Log:
[23:53]   Maestro   Wait a minute, FSM as nothing to do with anything, right?
[23:53]   universe-X   not really
[23:53]   Vera   Seems like it.
[23:53]   Bubbles7689   pretty much
[23:53]   universe-X   unless he's playing us that hard.
[23:53]   Maestro   Wasn't he super proactive last game?
[23:54]   universe-X   His meditation must be working.
[23:54]   Maestro   It's not hard to fake it with the time zones.
[23:54]   Vera   He was the Seer last game.
[23:54]   universe-X   Plus, last game was his first game.
[23:54]   Maestro   Ok, granted, but wouldn't he still want to make an effort?
[23:54]   universe-X   I wouldn't think so if all he's doing is keeping his teammates one away from winning.
[23:55]   universe-X   *losing
[23:55]   Vera   I suppose so.
[23:55]   Maestro   I mean in gerenal, not jumping into the fray late in the game.
[23:55]   Vera   Yeah.
[23:56]   universe-X   He made somewhat of an effort
[23:56]   universe-X   but besides that, what else is he supposed to provide besides bandwagoning? lol
[23:56]   Vera   We should also consider language barriers though.
[23:56]   universe-X   ^this is what has me thinking he's human,
[23:56]   universe-X   .
[23:56]   Maestro   I've never considered language barries with him.
[23:57]   Vera   He may have less to say as a Human than as a Seer, since he can't supply us with undeniable information.
[23:57]   Maestro   If I can deduce what he's saying, that's not a factor in my thinking.
[23:57]   Vera   Why's that?
[23:57]   Vera   Okay.
[23:58]   Maestro   I'm looking at every possibility.
[23:58]   Maestro   FSM could very well be laying low.
[23:58]   Maestro   And using the time zones and language problems to his benefit.
[23:59]   universe-X   honestly,
[23:59]   universe-X   I don't think he's capable of conjuring up something like that
[23:59]   universe-X   not yet at least.
[00:00]   Vera   Yeah.
[00:00]   Maestro   Why?
[00:00]   Vera   Have you seen him post on the forum?
[00:00]   universe-X   Just from h-
[00:00]   universe-X   that
[00:00]   universe-X   lol
[00:00]   universe-X   and
[00:00]   Vera   Or his performance last game?
[00:00]   universe-X   he runs on emotions
[00:00]   universe-X   even more than I do
[00:00]   Maestro   Yes, and yes.
[00:00]   Vera   Also
[00:00]   Vera   "i think so and so is human because he checks whois online"
[00:01]   Vera   best evidence
[00:01]   universe-X   lmao
[00:01]   universe-X   I feel bad for even suggesting that
[00:01]   universe-X   just because there's so many capable flaws in that
[00:02]   Maestro   I guess, but I'm not ruling out the possibility.
[00:02]   universe-X   Plus
[00:02]   universe-X   he would've had /something/ to say about the Dude
[00:02]   universe-X   wolgin
[00:02]   universe-X   *wolfing
[00:02]   universe-X   did he say anything about it/
[00:02]   universe-X   ?
[00:02]   Maestro   Why would he say something?
[00:02]   universe-X   *lynching -_-
[00:02]   universe-X   cuz
[00:03]   universe-X   if he's a wolf
[00:03]   universe-X   and Dude was his partner
[00:03]   universe-X   and knowing it's him
[00:03]   universe-X   he would've had to say something
[00:03]   universe-X   regarding his death
[00:03]   universe-X   however minuscule.
[00:03]   Maestro   Maybe, but it was already said and done.
[00:03]   universe-X   Unless...
[00:04]   universe-X   not saying anything was an attempt to separate him and extend his incognitoness
[00:04]   universe-X   but I doubt that possibility.
[00:04]   Maestro   I'm not putting it past him.
[00:05]   universe-X   Idk
[00:05]   universe-X   I think we're fine for now not considering him.

Fifthly, he continues his suspicions from last Day Phase even now.  He still considers SlowPokemon suspicious, despite the amount of evidence saying otherwise.  Even now in the chat, he's trying to find evidence of SlowPokemon's suspiciousness.

Log:
[00:05]   Maestro   Alright.
[00:05]   Maestro   What about Slow?
[00:06]   Vera   totes wuff
[00:07]   Maestro   All in favor?
[00:07]   Vera   shore
[00:07]   Bubbles7689   My opinion is that he wouldn't have voted for himself against Dude if they were both wolves
[00:07]   universe-X   However, there's a possibility he was using that in his favor
[00:07]   universe-X   if he were a wolf
[00:08]   universe-X   especially since sheikah pulled a similar stunt earlier
[00:08]   universe-X   and slow was just mimicking, in theory
[00:08]   Maestro   Plus, there's the general idea that "Wolves won't commit suicide"
[00:09]   universe-X   Soo, why do you guys think he is wolf?
[00:09]   Bubbles7689   but he created a kitb
[00:09]   Bubbles7689   And he wouldnt have done that when both of the candidates were wolves
[00:09]   Bubbles7689   because its a lose lose situation
[00:10]   universe-X   It's a lose lose situation,
[00:10]   universe-X   but would've kept the inactive wolf alive
[00:10]   universe-X   *supposedly inactive
[00:10]   universe-X   and would've kept him around long enough
[00:10]   universe-X   til he came back.
[00:11]   Bubbles7689   but if he lost it, then would dude have come back? I dont think he would have risked it
[00:12]   Maestro   At that point, he really had nothing to lose.
[00:12]   Maestro   It came down to him or Dude.
[00:13]   Maestro   And I don't think the KitB was his idea at any point.
[00:13]   Maestro   That was something everybody else did.
[00:14]   universe-X   And Slow heavily opposed it.
[00:15]   Maestro   In fact, the fact that it came down to a Kitb infuriated him.
[00:15]   Bubbles7689   But its not like he was mad because he was going to die
[00:15]   Bubbles7689   He was for him being the one dead
[00:15]   Maestro   But that may have been a ploy.
[00:15]   Maestro   Like what sheikah did earlier.
[00:16]   Maestro   He probably realized that by him dying, we'd get dude because of the missed wolfing.
[00:17]   Maestro   He couldn't stave off his own death.
[00:17]   Bubbles7689   its too big of a risk. I just got here, but I dont think he wouldve done that
[00:17]   Maestro   He didn't have much of a choice.
[00:17]   Maestro   This all went down literally in the final hour, remember?
[00:17]   Bubbles7689   I know
[00:17]   universe-X   Final minutes lol
[00:17]   universe-X   But I don't think it's a
[00:18]   Bubbles7689   That still doesnt explain why he wanted to die instead of dude

In order to verify if he were suspicious of the more conventional suspicions in the game, I asked the chat's view of Universe-X.  MaestroUGC responded that he was "very middle of the road about him."  How can he feel middle of the road when vermilionvermin (now a confirmed Human) and others in the game have expressed suspicion of him?  I feel that his explanations for viewing Universe-X in this way is also rather under par.

Log:
Vera   Hey, MaestroUGC, why do you feel "middle of the road" for Universe-X?
[00:29]   universe-X   Oh yes, please explain.
[00:30]   Maestro   The way we've been talking, I doubt he'd be so open if he were a wolf.
[00:31]   Vera   How has he been talking?
[00:31]   Vera   Everyone has been rather open.
[00:31]   Maestro   But because his playing has improved since last I played with him, this could just be an addition to his tool set.
[00:32]   universe-X   lol
[00:32]   Vera   What makes you think his playing has improved?
[00:32]   Vera   Universe-X, isn't this your first game in a while?
[00:32]   Vera   Or second?
[00:32]   Vera   I forget.
[00:32]   universe-X   This is my first game in a looong while
[00:32]   Vera   Yeah.
[00:32]   universe-X   Even my last game, I was just... *facepalm*
[00:32]   Maestro   It's the little things, mainly how he doesn't jump to conclusions anymore.


So this sums up why I think MaestroUCG is a Wolf.
Discuss.

MaestroUGC

Bravo, Mashi. Bravo.

I was wondering when you'd finally say something.

All of these things are 100% true. But your logic behind the wolfings is far from correct. I didn't choose my wolfing targets, ever. I left it all up to chance. I suppose my performance in this game is due to leaving the wolfing strategy to random chance. Look for yourself:

Quote from: Dude on August 08, 2012, 01:35:46 PMok you do it! I'll just watch!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 08, 2012, 01:38:35 PMAlright. Here's the list I drew:
1.Spyro
2.blueflower999
3.Dude
4.MaestroUGC
5.vermillionvermin
6.the_last_sheikah
7.SlowPokemon
8.universe-x
9.Mashi
10.shadowkirby
11.FSM


That said, we wish the wolf Spyro.

And...break!

Wolfing verm was the last thing I wanted to do, but I was a slave to the dice. I wanted to try something different, go in without a plan. No strategy, just act. This worked against me, and I saw all of this unfolding right in front of me. All I will say is look towards the future, because I have many more tricks up my sleeve...

Good night, and good luck.
Try to do everything; you're bound to succeed with at least one.

universe-X


Mashi


Bubbles

..did he just admit before the vote was final?

MaestroUGC

Try to do everything; you're bound to succeed with at least one.

Bubbles

So is the game over or do we still have to wait until Thursday?

Mashi

actually guys, im the wuff
maestrougc is duping you all
in fact, i count as three wolves
so wolves win
!!!

Dude

I still think if I didn't die because of Mashi's iffy vote, we might have had a chance.

Mashi

Maybe!
MaestroUGC was apparently being frivolous though, so idk.

MaestroUGC

Oh I'm sure if you remained alive, things would've played out differently.
Try to do everything; you're bound to succeed with at least one.