TWG XXXIX: Perfect Apples Post Game

[FSM-Reapr]

The player analysis and comments will come later today.

1. Kman - Chimecho
2. spitllama - Koffing
3. Zunawe - Groagunk
4. vermillionvermin - Bidoof
5. blueflower999 - Zubat
6. the_last_sheikah - Loudred
7. SocialFox - Dugtrio
8. K-NiGhT - Diglett
9. Bubbles7689 - Guildmaster Wigglytuff
10. Spyro - Chatot
11. shadowkirby - Sunflora
12. Bespinben - Skuntank

This game was fun, fun, fun~♪

[Yugi]

Chat log coming in a bit.

[spitllama]

Ok questions: Kman why didn't you use tribute? Why was the reviver seed never used? Spyro why did you safety on yourself after I voted for you?

Also Verm I didn't want to wolf you but Kman made it clear to me that he wanted to seer you, so we took advantage of that + some false painting assertions to keep him from using tribute. Sowwy.

[Yugi]

YOU SAID YOU HAD HOMEWORK.

[Yugi]

Oh, and.
14:27 *** AnnoyedFox joined #twgnsm
kill da wofs Topic set by bird on Mon Sep 17 10:03:13 UTC+1000 2012
14:28 AnnoyedFoxteehee
14:28 spitYou can just do /nick annoyedfox
14:28 *** AnnoyedFox is now known as Foxio
14:28 spitYay
14:28 FoxioSorry, I fogot how it was done.
14:29 spit smacks foxio
14:29 FoxioI actully knew that Ben was a wolf.
14:30 spitOh rearry?
14:30 FoxioIts Just that YOU LYNCHED ME BEFORE I COPULD SAY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
14:30 spitHow did you know?
14:30 FoxioInactive.
14:31 Foxioon the first night when nobody got wolfed.
14:31 spitThat was actually blue's fault
14:31 Foxiowho is?
14:31 spitI told him to negate the guarding on Kman, and then vote Kman
14:31 spitWe would of had the tribute out of the game right at the start
14:31 spitblueflower999- zubat
14:31 FoxioOkay.
14:31 FoxioAndZuanwe was the Miller.
14:32 spitYes
14:32 spitThat was a lucky shot for us
14:32 FoxioAlso, Bes was a new player.
14:32 FoxioSo he might have thought that wolves
14:32 spitYah the only part he really liked about the game was sentry duty
14:32 Foxiodidn't need to vote for a lynch.
14:33 spitThat too
14:33 FoxioYou lynched me before I could connect the dots though.
14:34 maestroI think that was the idea.
14:34 spitIn terms of activity, it was a pretty lame game
14:34 birdThat game was pretty bad, you guys. 
14:34 FoxioI then figured out that blue and you were wolves when you voted for the Seer.
14:35 spitWe actually lynched verm for good reason, though. Not just because he's Verm.
14:35 birdFoxio: It didn't matter at that point - if they could insta the seer, the game would end instantly.
14:35 spitI needed to scare Kman away from using tribute
14:35 birdSo it didn't matter if they "accidentally revealed themselves".
14:35 birdI'm surprised Kman didn't tribute Verm.
14:35 FoxioAlso,
14:35 spitMe too
14:35 FoxioI noticed that.
14:35 birdI think the game may have played out differently if he had made that sacrifice.
14:35 Foxioyou were the only survivor of Sauce is petty coll./
14:35 birdGood job though, wolves!
14:35 FoxioYeah unrelated.
14:36 spitPart of him liked being leader, I think
14:36 Foxioand the Please.
14:36 Foxiohopefully I get something other than Human next time.
14:36 birdI think human is a fun role.
14:36 FoxioMost likely yours or shadowkirbys game.
14:36 birdYou get what you put into it though.
14:36 spitTwo times wolf is not fun
14:37 spitI don't see how Maestro does it
14:37 birdLol, spit it was like you didn't even try this game.
14:37 birdI mean, it worked. I just thought it was funny. The humans let you put in very little effort.
14:37 FoxioYetyou still won.
14:37 spitWell tbh, once Verm was gone I didn't really need to
14:37 birdI know.
14:37 birdGood call on wolfing him.
14:38 Foxioalso.
14:38 spitKman is a pretty paranoid player, and nobody else was active
14:38 birdA lot of people try to make tricky wolfings, but I think that was a great decision.
14:38 spitI didn't wolf him because of activity though! I do want to make that clear to him..
14:38 FoxioAnother reason that I thought that Bes was a wolf.
14:38 FoxioIs because of the Manti Rule.
14:38 birdI'm not sure how that applies?
14:38 FoxioNormally,
14:39 FoxioId an vet player was a wolf.
14:39 spitThere were three wolves
14:39 FoxioThey would just make random wolvings.
14:39 spitManti rule doesn't really apply just cause Bespinben was one of them
14:39 birdManti rule is: If the best player isn't wolfed night 1, the best player must be a wolf.
14:39 FoxioOh...
14:40 birdOr at least, that was always my interpretation of it. Do you guys think of it differently at NSM?
14:40 FoxioI thought that it would be if a good player doesn't die withen the first two nights.
14:40 maestroThat's the idea, but it usually doesn't amount to much here.
14:40 birdIt rarely means anything anywhere.
14:40 FoxioWait...
14:40 FoxioSo.
14:40 spitI think everyone just interprets it as wolfing the best players first
14:40 FoxioThis.
14:41 FoxioIsn't the only TWG forum.
14:41 maestroKilling the best players first is the cowards way to victory.
14:41 Foxio?
14:41 spithahahahahahaha
14:41 birdA victory is a victory in my book!
14:41 FoxioWell.
14:41 maestroSee, I play for the hunt.
14:41 spitNo foxio it's not
14:41 birdFoxio: I can think of two of three other forums that play TWG.
14:41 spitthere's tons lol
14:41 maestroThe trophy isn't worth much in my opinion.
14:42 FoxioI hope that your game gets hosted next spit.
14:42 spitDood me toooo
14:42 spitThis'll be the last time I post it
14:42 birdI'm trying to host a different game this time around.
14:42 birdI've decided never to try and host the same game twice.
14:42 spitSnakes again?
14:42 spitOr one from way back when
14:43 birdNo. The game I'm going to try and host this time has only been seen by Verm and Mashi.
14:43 FoxioFor LXI I am going to fix my horror movie TWG and see if I can Host that.
14:43 FoxioProviding I am in TWG XL
14:43 spitA LLF game?
14:43 Foxio.
14:43 spit@bird
14:44 birdNope!
14:44 FoxioGo into the How PB works board.
14:44 FoxioAnd look at my page.
14:44 birdJust one I made a week ago. I PM'd it to them to look at it for balance.
14:44 spitWeeeell don't make it too good cause I need to host and stuff /sarcasm
14:44 spitI look forward to it 14:44 bird
14:45 birdI wouldn't be terribly worried about it.
14:45 maestroI have a new game I'm going to try this time around.
14:45 spitSupertwg
14:45 maestroNo.
14:45 spitynot
14:46 spitYou were talking about it for a while
14:46 maestroThat's not ready yet.
14:46 birdwhat is it
14:46 maestroI'm still trying to balance it all out.
14:46 spitWhat's the theme
14:47 bird"super" duh
14:47 maestroHow can I say this without spoiling it.
14:47 FoxioSUPERHEROES.
14:47 maestroEver read Goethe's "Faust"?
14:47 birdyes that is my favorite book
14:47 Foxiono.
14:47 birdmephistopheles and i = bros 4 life
14:48 maestroConsider this a spin off.
14:48 spitI have not. Heard of the author but that's it.
14:48 maestroDon't worry, it doesn't require any prerequisite reading.
14:49 birdmy game is alice in wonderland themed
14:49 birdbut
14:49 birdevery day phase there is a trivia question about pokemon
14:49 Foxiowhat.
14:49 birdthe first two to pm me the answer get a pat on the back
14:49 maestroWhat is with you all and Pokemon?
14:49 birdpokemon = you automatically win the host poll!!!
14:49 spitGosh dangit he's right
14:50 maestroHe is, but most Pokemon themed games here are pretty lackluster.
14:50 Foxiowhoh.
14:50 FoxioI should put a pokemon role in my TWG.
14:50 FoxioLike right Now.
14:50 spitMaybe I'll just change all the characters in my game to pokemon instead 
14:50 spitSimple enough 14:50 birdquit copying my brilliant idea you guys
14:50 maestroI'm not.
14:50 spitteehee
14:51 maestroI theme my games pretty carefully.
14:51 birdi don't
14:51 birdi normally wouldn't have a theme at all!! but people here seem to like them so why not i guess
14:51 Foxiobohahahahahahhahahaha.
14:51 maestroIt's makes them a bit more interesting.
14:52 FoxioI might make a Final Fantasy Themed Game. 1
4:52 spitI need to do HW bye guys
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14:53 Foxiosee ta.
14:53 Foxio*ya.
14:53 maestroI'm the only person here who bases my games off of literature, aren't I?
14:54 Foxioyeah i guess.
14:54 birdi just said i was basing my game off of alice's adventures in wonderland
14:54 maestroMy next game will be based on Dante.
14:54 birdand i guess through the looking glass also
14:54 maestroWith Pokemon?
14:54 birdthat was a joke
14:55 maestroAre you sure about that?
14:55 birdpretty sure, yup
14:55 maestroIf you promise Pokemon to these people, they will expect nothing less.
14:55 birdi'm sure they've grown used to disappointment after fsm's game anyway
14:56 maestroFSM's game could've been better.
14:56 maestroIt's just nobody gave a shit.
14:56 birdYeah. 
14:56 FoxioI did.
14:57 Foxioyaydead.
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14:58 maestroWell, now that my ban is over, time to wreak some havoc all over this forum.
14:58 Foxioteehee.
14:59 maestroWell, I have class and junk tomorrow, so I need to go to bed.
14:59 maestroGood night. 4:59 Foxiosee ya.
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[FSM-Reapr]

I agree, nobody was active in this game.

[Bespinben]

I wouldn't know any better since this was my first game, but I thought it was fairly enjoyable. FSM excellently fleshed out the theme, for sure. I think we can agree on that at least.

[Yugi]

I wouldn't know any better since this was my first game, but I thought it was fairly enjoyable. FSM excellently fleshed out the theme, for sure. I think we can agree on that at least.

Just remember t not get Phantoms.

[Kman96]

Ok questions: Kman why didn't you use tribute? Why was the reviver seed never used? Spyro why did you safety on yourself after I voted for you?

Also Verm I didn't want to wolf you but Kman made it clear to me that he wanted to seer you, so we took advantage of that + some false painting assertions to keep him from using tribute. Sowwy.

I really should have...

But I'm extremely cross, because night 3 I requested Spitllama be seered, and that would have put this whole matter to rest. If Spyro hadn't sent in a seering PM without checking with me first...or if I'd have asked him to check with me first... We could have won. I know it.

Spyro, I'm blaming this on you

I agree, nobody was active in this game.

I was most definitely active. Except for when I was doing AP work.



GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. So much frustration right now.

[Zunawe]

Yay for unlucky millers. Woo.

[FSM-Reapr]

Epilogue:

-After Spyro died, the rumor goes that Team Skull went to Apple Woods.
-ARE YOU BZZZ-ZURE THAT YOUR STORY IS CORRECT, MISTER??? WE WANT THOSE BANDITS CAUGHT! I said.
-My name is...

2 continued...


The game and the host:
I think I did well considering this was my first hosted TWG. This clearly wasn't the best time for me to host, due to the big exams I had. Sure there were a few hiccups here and there but that's past.
Well, nobody was active enough for me to notice specially except Spit who clearly was the main reason why the wolves won. Maybe because all the super coll guys and gals were wolfed or didn't play the game at all. Also, no suspicion lists?!
Because I'm a man of short speeches, I've got nothing else to say.

THE WOLVES:
Well, considering the 1st Night, when nobody was wolved, your performance was epic. Spit clearly was in charge naturally because he has the most experience of being a wolf. Blue and Ben, your inactivity was actually a good thing for the wolves. No one went after you. The Zunawe lynching was a lucky move for you guys.
THE HUMANS:
Night 1, Kman took the leader role. Was it a good thing? Maybe not. But it was unavoidable. Also, Spyro seer'd Zunawe randomly... Usually the seer is supposed to seer first experienced players because they are the most dangerous wolves.

Kman: Clearly the most active human. First of all, why didn't you revive Bubbles or Verm? Bubbles because simply she was the guardian and she could have prevent wolfings. Also, imagine if Spyro was a wolf, Ben the real seer and Zunawe a normal human. You just jumped to the conclusion without knowing has the REAL seer claimed to you. Always keep our guard up. And "I'm gonna seer Verm", -.- fail... Other than that you played well. Human MVP

spitllama: Again a wolf... -.- Still totes the best wolf performance I've seen. Marvelous job! You were the reason why the wolves won. Your great plans worked out nicely! I liked the ending, you just showed the wolf teams power. Don't mess with the Spitty. OVERALL MVP Have fun hosting your game, I'm sure it'll win this time.

Zunawe: Spyro's random seering was just... awful. Sorry about you dying.

Vermityvermverm: I'm sure if someone would have not told to seer you, you would have survived. You were clearly on to something and you were the only human to tell Kman the Sentry Duty answer. *claps*

B-Flow: I haven't seen your playing style before.... Hard to judge. Well, you did everything Spit told you to do, except Night 1 wolfing... Ok performance I guess, you didn't do anything I'd specially notice...

the_last_sheikah: You noticed the thing that Sunflora will die in a KitB, other than that...

SocialFox: DAMN THE BERUOCRACY(new catchphrase) Your death revealed that shadowkirby was the Sunflora. *snip*

K-NiGhT: ...You were inactive because grounded...nothing else...

Bubble Bobble: Guardian, you trusted Kman a bit too much... Kman should have said "Guardian guard me" and you should have guarded Verm or your self... Anyways, nothing else.

Spyro:(yah you don't get your name bolded=punishment)  Stop safetying yourself especially if you're the confirmed seer!!! Also you rushed because you didn't read the rules carefully. But seering Spit considering he was the Brutal wouldn't have changed the results at all.

shadowkirby: Same ol' you...

Bespinben: You shined in Sentry Duty and you actually paid attention to the game, you just didn't show it to everybody. Maybe it was a secret... You didn't know how to post a lynching vote until Day 3. Just ask from me. Rising Star

Mashi and Jub: super coll guys. I didn't even know they were playing. That's a sign of a TWG expert.


post game made on 3DS

ninja'd

[Spyro]

I suck.

Sorry guys.

But really what's the big deal about changing your seer?

And I need to be more active. I'll try to work on that, but I'm so busy with school and stuff.

[MaestroUGC]

It wasn't so much that you seer'd somebody of your own accord, but the fact that you didn't give Kman a reason as to why or even let him know before hand.

Also, when's the Host sign ups going up?

[Spyro]

It wasn't so much that you seer'd somebody of your own accord, but the fact that you didn't give Kman a reason as to why or even let him know before hand.

Also, when's the Host sign ups going up?

Well, my mistake, I thought you could change it, so I put sheikah in there for a placeholder seer until Kman made a suggestion. I probably should have asked him first.

[MaestroUGC]

Usually the host will only accept the first wolfing/seering/guarding/etc that they get, but there are exceptions as it's up to the host if they will allow the player to change their decision.