TWG 63: Second Chances

[vermilionvermin]

The medium should still claim.  Yeah, we'll lose the Medium's power after Night 1, assuming his corpse gets mangled.

I'm willing to sacrifice that small, small chance of a medium having any huge impact on the game for an alliance and a guarantee that the vigis and seerings are used well.  We're talking about two killings controlled by humans in a game with four specials, not to mention however many seerings we get off.  I think it's fair to sacrifice the medium, which is by far the least useful of the four specials, for an alliance.

[The_Subjective_Thought]

Fine.

You've convinced me.

I'm the Medium.

I hope to kingdom come and back that you aren't a wolf.

[mikey]

Now that we all know you're the medium, what do we do with it?  And how do we make sure that the wolf assassin doesn't assassinate you?

[fank009]

Now that we all know you're the medium, what do we do with it?  And how do we make sure that the wolf assassin doesn't assassinate you?

-we are supposed to claim (as verm said)
-we cant. (unless wolves want to improvise)



Verm, you DONT see the strength in a medium? and considering wolves have medium powers as well... not to mention, the medium can tell us "HOW MANY WOLVES ARE LEFT" in a stage of a game :/
Maybe I see the medium being more useful, but thats just my take.

[mikey]

-we are supposed to claim (as verm said)
-we cant. (unless wolves want to improvise)



Verm, you DONT see the strength in a medium? and considering wolves have medium powers as well... not to mention, the medium can tell us "HOW MANY WOLVES ARE LEFT" in a stage of a game :/
Maybe I see the medium being more useful, but thats just my take.

How does the medium tell us that?  Also I don't really see why wolves having medium powers would do anything.  Can't they just talk to the dead then?  So claiming to people would be a bad idea, because if they died the wolf could talk to them?

[Mashi]

NocturneOfShadow, it's expected that the Medium will be wolfed this Phase.  The Medium's Role is to act as an alliance head for this Phase to unite the Seer and Megakillers.

The Seer and Megakillers should claim to The_Subjective_Thought, anyway.  I don't think that the Wolves would be audacious enough to false claim, but if we're wary, I suggest claiming at least a few hours before the Phase ends so that The_Subjective_Thought can inform you all of your identities.

[mikey]

Oooh now I get it   wow that's a good idea.  So the seer can see people then if they're wolves the megakillers can kill them!  Now I get why having kills as humans is so good Thanks for clearing that up.  So a megakiller or seer should pm him.  What about humans?  Should we pm saying we're human or is that too hard to counterclaim?

[Greg]

You might as well tell him what you are if you're normal human.

[Kman96]

Verm, you DONT see the strength in a medium? and considering wolves have medium powers as well... not to mention, the medium can tell us "HOW MANY WOLVES ARE LEFT" in a stage of a game :/
Maybe I see the medium being more useful, but thats just my take.

fank, I believe you have your roles confused. The medium is not able to tell how many wolves are left, they are simply able to freely communicate with dead players and/or allow one dead player to continuously partake in discussions. The SEER has the ability to trade in their power on any night and be able to see how many wolves are left (useless at this point), not the medium.

You might as well tell him what you are if you're normal human.

Greg this is contradictory- we couldnt tell them anything else, because the humans are only told that they are human. We all have the possibility of being an Angel, a Millwright or Herring. All we can say is human, the rest is obvious.

[mikey]

The SEER has the ability to trade in their power on any night and be able to see how many wolves are left (useless at this point), not the medium.

This would explain my confusion.  So the seer is probably more important than the medium?  And if The_Subjective_Thought isn't the medium the real one better step up before the end of the day D:

[Toby]

I've claimed to TST, I'd suggest everyone else to do so too.

[fank009]

fank, I believe you have your roles confused.

I do have my roles confused, Note to self, dont make a "big post" when you are sleepy.

I still see some potential in the medium. but since TST has been outed...

apart of me thinks its telling asking for the medium to come out, but maybe im thinking too much on it.

[The_Subjective_Thought]

You make me sound like a closet case or something.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I still see some potential in the medium. but since TST has been outed...

The Medium's usefulness is generally reduced by the Wolf Corpse Mangler, especially the power to "allow one dead player to freely communicate in the thread." Still, in many cases, it can be helpful to have the opinions of dead people.

[The_Subjective_Thought]

The medium potential use is really only a minimal impact as a communicator late game and as a counter to part of the wolf assassin.

Getting an alliance up is really the most beneficial thing I can do.