[DELETED] [Wii] The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - "Twilight Realm" by D3ath3657

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Submission Information:
Series: The Legend of Zelda
Game: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Console: Nintendo Wii
Title: Twilight Realm
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: D3ath3657

[The Deku Trombonist]

The chords at the start need some more filling out. They sound quite empty compared with the track which sounds quite full.

Here are some suggestions which fit in with how you currently have it. I took out a couple of notes for playability but they're much closer. I'm not sure what you plan to do about the second chord in bar 3 though, that's a tricky one to capture and keep playable so I left it as is.

Bar 1

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Bar 3

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[Khunjund]

Whoops, my bad.

Files have been updated.

[The Deku Trombonist]

Any reason you put a Gb instead of an F in the LH chord on beat 1 of measure 1? There is an upper voice that plainly moves from F on beat 1 to Gb on beat 2...

And in the LH chord on beat 1 of measure 3, I was wondering why you put Ab and Gb instead of F and G natural? The middle voice that had the Eb at the end of measure 2 moves up to the F at the start of bar 3. And the upper voice that had the F to Gb in bars 1 & 2 then moves up and has G natural on beat 1 and Ab on beat 2 (which I totally understand is omitted for playability).

[Khunjund]

I know the first chord of measure 1 has an F, but I don't like how it sounds when it's lowered into the left hand. It makes the chord sound like an inverted F7sus4, and I find the cross-relation between F and Cb too audible. I might change this, however.

As for measures 3–4, I happened to miss the voice that goes from Gn to Ab, and so I had based my voicing on the middle arpeggio line that goes Ab, [what I initially heard as Gb but is actually a Gn], Eb+Fb on beat one and Ab, Cn, Eb+Fb on beats two to four. I'll see what I can do about it, but I find that voice to sound much better when it's above the Cn to Db line, so I'm considering making them both really big arpeggiated chords. (I'm convinced, however, that there are no Fn's or Bbb's in those measures.)

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[The Deku Trombonist]

Try listening along with this, it's just a transcription of the first 4 bars with the 4 main voices. I'm 100% confident in its accuracy.

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[Khunjund]

...It seems you are correct.

I have no clue why I consistently hear the bass note of the second chord in measure 3 as an Ab (especially when I jump between it and the second chord of measure 2), and I guess I refused to accept there being an Fn in the first chord because of the Fb in the upper arpeggios; but writing out the proper voicing also made me realize the clear composition process: two fifths drifting apart from each other chromatically (which is why I have now added a Gn in measure 1).

I will view this as a good reminder of just how utterly incompetent I am, despite my usual swagger.


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[The Deku Trombonist]

Hey, don't beat yourself up! We're all just here to help each other out, not to make people feel bad It is quite a tricky spot to transcribe accurately. Especially that second chord in measure 3 which sounds so full and yet on paper is actually quite empty.

[Khunjund]

I will view this as a good reminder of just how utterly incompetent I am, despite my usual swagger.

I should make that my signature.

[Bespinben]

My take on the page layout. Designed to reduce some of the distorted horizontal spacing caused by the many accidentals, and to achieve a more unified appearance throughout.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gqm4c7hh1mwt2np/Twilight%20Realm%20%28edit%29.musx?dl=0

[Khunjund]

My take on the page layout. Designed to reduce some of the distorted horizontal spacing caused by the many accidentals, and to achieve a more unified appearance throughout.

I don't know...

Sure, the accidentals look a bit cleaner, but the note spacing isn't that different. I'd even say page 2 looks less uniform now, like it gets progressively thinner as you go along. That, and I'm not too keen on the "double spaced systems" look.

How about I widen margins a bit and reduce staff height, but keep the same measure layout?

[Bespinben]

That could work well too, so go ahead with that. My approach is a bit idiosyncratic (like with the amounts of space I prefer between systems), but as long as I've given you some ideas for your own editing, then I'm happy with that : )

[Sebastian]

Bump for arranger. How's your progress with this one?

[Sebastian]

Archived for inactivity.

Feel free to resubmit at your convenience.