TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
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Universal effect: Masks(items)
There are three masks distributed in the beginning of the game to randomly chosen players(this doesn't include the Happy Mask Salesman):
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
The objective of the Happy Mask Salesman is to get all the masks and have Majora's Mask dead. If he manages to do that, he wins. The game will end when Happy Mask Salesman wins.
If a player holding a mask dies, the mask automatically transfers to Happy Mask Salesman. Happy Mask Salesman can use the secondary powers of the masks that he's holding(=seer/vigi). The masks Happy Mask Salesman is holding won't be re-distributed when the cycle begins again. Can only die through a lynching. Will be told who will receive the masks in the beginning of every Night(not which masks though).
Doesn't count as a wolf or a human.
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf Can snipe a player of his choice anytime in any point of the game. One-time use.
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf During a Day Phase, this player can tribute(this player dies) him/herself by sending a PM to the host, to revive somebody dead permanently. One time use. This power doesn't supersede an insta. If lynched, this player can take another player down with him.
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time When masks are distributed, Link always gets a mask.
6. Tatl - Tribute During a Day Phase, this player can tribute(this player dies) him/herself by sending a PM to the host, to revive somebody dead permanently. One-time use. This power doesn't supersede an insta.
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian Cannot guard Link or self.
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human When killed, a randomly chosen, blue human will die. Knows that he's the Brutal Human.
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Back-Up Players:
1. spitllama
It's the beginning of Night 1.
Night 1 ends 24 hours from now(11 PM GMT).
Aaaaand all PMs have been sent.
NEW WORLD RECORD
Nobody claim. There is a sniper and a brutal wolf.
I love Mario's mask on the back of the HMS XD
Anyway, this looks like a good game, and I'm excited for it.
Like Verm said, no one should claim. Also, as long as the holder of the Goron Mask is a human, he/she should probably not vigi someone tonight. Unless someone does something really stupid and suspicious.
Can we trade items (masks) through pm in this game?
Kay. Hm.
The Happy Mask Salesman is concerning me a little bit. Anybody holding a mask dies, the mask goes to him. Meaning that toward the end of the game, there's going to be a strong chance that he'll get a mask from the deceased. And it's not going to be terribly hard for him to take down Majora. Add that to the fact he can't be wolfed, and that he can use the powers of any mask in his possession, and we have a formidable opponent, one who grows more so by the end of the game. The rogue was more dangerous than the wolves last game; I think that's the case here.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 03, 2013, 03:03:56 PMNobody claim. There is a sniper and a brutal wolf.
I homestly think Tingle claiming really doesn't have any negative consequences. Am I missing something?
A random special dies. And him.
Remember to send me all the PMs and chat logs you have with eachother.
Thank you.
The Deku Mask holder should claim that (s)he is the Deku Mask holder, but should not claim his/her role. That person will be protected from sniping and vigi'ing. That player should be guarded so that that player cannot be wolf'd (unless that player is link or the guard, but I doubt that the wolves would try wolfing that player in that case). The Goron mask holder should not claim, but vigi the Deku Mask holder, and since that player can't be vigi'd, he'll survive, unless that player is a wolf, in which case we have one player less to kill (and it would bring the HMS closer to his goal, so I doubt that a wolf would claim if he has the Deku mask). During the day phase, if that player is still alive, link, the guard, the tribute and the Brutal Human should claim to that player to form an alliance that opperates behind the screens. If a counterclaim happens to occur, the Zora Mask holder should seer one of the players that claimed to have the deku mask, and reveal the results during the day, and lynch the player seer'd unless that player was seer'd brown.
There are 2 problems with this plan:
- A wolf could be the Deku Mask holder and decide not to claim, causing the humans to lose one day phase without alliance, but if nobody claims, the humans won't have an alliance at all.
- A wolf could be the Deku Mask holder and another one could be the Goron Mask holder. However the chance of this is just (1/3)*(3/13)*(2/12)=0,0128 and I think that that's a risk we should take.
I AM HERE!! Seems as if nothing has gone on...
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 03, 2013, 03:45:00 PMA random special dies. And him.
Yeah, absolutely not. Gives the wolves a way to hit two at once, one of which is important.
Quote from: davy on February 03, 2013, 03:49:13 PMThe Deku Mask holder should claim that (s)he is the Deku Mask holder, but should not claim his/her role. That person will be protected from sniping and vigi'ing. That player should be guarded so that that player cannot be wolf'd (unless that player is link or the guard, but I doubt that the wolves would try wolfing that player in that case). The Goron mask holder should not claim, but vigi the Deku Mask holder, and since that player can't be vigi'd, he'll survive, unless that player is a wolf, in which case we have one player less to kill (and it would bring the HMS closer to his goal, so I doubt that a wolf would claim if he has the Deku mask). During the day phase, if that player is still alive, link, the guard, the tribute and the Brutal Human should claim to that player to form an alliance that opperates behind the screens. If a counterclaim happens to occur, the Zora Mask holder should seer one of the players that claimed to have the deku mask, and reveal the results during the day, and lynch the player seer'd unless that player was seer'd brown.
There are 2 problems with this plan:
- A wolf could be the Deku Mask holder and decide not to claim, causing the humans to lose one day phase without alliance, but if nobody claims, the humans won't have an alliance at all.
- A wolf could be the Deku Mask holder and another one could be the Goron Mask holder. However the chance of this is just (1/3)*(3/13)*(2/12)=0,0128 and I think that that's a risk we should take.
I like this, but I don't get why a wolf holding the Deku mask would die if he was vigi'd.
I think the wolves can use the masks now, unless I'm misreading the rules.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 03, 2013, 04:06:04 PMI think the wolves can use the masks now, unless I'm misreading the rules.
They can.
So uh.
We have a Guardian?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, FSM, why did you change that? You ruined my plan!
Too tired to think up a new one.
The guardian can't guard themselves or link so the obvious choice is for Tatl to claim.
So yeah I'm tatl.
Actually, screw it. We have a Guardian, and you guys don't have to trust me that much for this to work.
I have the Zora Mask.
But Liggy, you may say, why should we care? You could be a wolf, and we can't start an alliance off of this!
Well you see, I can seer someone the thread wants. No good for me to seer someone and not tell anyone, you see. From there, we won't be sitting ducks tomorrow. We'll have a seering for our lynch!
So everyone vote for who they want to be seered, and I will use my seering on the one with the most votes. Then I'll tell the thread.
Well, if someone is holding a mask, they should claim, that way wolves won't wolf/snipe them, thus giving the masks to the Happy mask Sales Man.
Just claim your holding a mask, not the type.
If you've got the Goron mask don't vigi anyone.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 03, 2013, 04:24:39 PMWell, if someone is holding a mask, they should claim, that way wolves won't wolf/snipe them, thus giving the masks to the Happy mask Sales Man.
Just claim your holding a mask, not the type.
If you've got the Goron mask don't vigi anyone.
Well, Liggy claims that he has the Zora Mask... but he said the type... :P
This may be stupid, but I don't think a wolf would claim Tribute. The only wolf that can reliably fake it is the wolf tribute, and he most certainly would not kill himself to revive a blue.
Brutal Human. And I swear to god if you're a wolf I'm going to be mad at you forever. I feel really apprehensive about this, but my role will probably be counterclaimed if I don't.
Oh well.
Liggy, you could make up a seering result to suit yourself for all we know.
Why the heck would I do something so blatantly stupid and suicidal? It's incredibly easy to verify a seering result in this game, and if I make it up the person I seered is going to call me out on it.
Hm. Good point.
BLEAGHHH.
Quote from: davy on February 03, 2013, 03:49:13 PMThe Deku Mask holder should claim that (s)he is the Deku Mask holder, but should not claim his/her role. That person will be protected from sniping and vigi'ing. That player should be guarded
I did want to mention that if the Deku mask holder was in fact a human, they have no chance of being wolfed, with the wolves and humans already being scared as heck of the HMS, I don't think they'd be interested in giving him an edge that strong in the beginning of the game. So please, if you are... Let us know, you're invincible literally and metaphorically and we can use all the edge this time around.
This being said, Guardian.. if you're not holding the Deku mask, don't waste your guard on the person who is holding it. They won't die.
After 6 new posts, that's been covered..
Agree with guarding tatl.
Quote from: Liggy on February 03, 2013, 04:40:28 PMBrutal Human. And I swear to god if you're a wolf I'm going to be mad at you forever. I feel really apprehensive about this, but my role will probably be counterclaimed if I don't.
This is confusing me. Are you claiming Tingle?
It's really important to claim to Jub ASAP so he can deal with the claims before he's sniped.
...
I'm absolutely certain I sent that to Jub. Did I send it to the wrong guy?
Oh wow I posted that.
Uh.
Whoops.
I didn't recognize that as a claim. I'm Tingle.
*headdesk*
I retract that claim. I wanted to test if Jub was a wolf by trying to get him to waste his sniper on me, but I screwed up and claimed to the thread. Whoops.
Woah woah woah everyone. When did jub become the alliance leader?
Liggy. Liggy. Liggy.
I'm not Tingle either. :'(
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 03, 2013, 05:18:40 PMI didn't recognize that as a claim. I'm Tingle.
.....why would you do that? You just counterclaimed to the public, which we already said not to do.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on February 03, 2013, 05:26:05 PMWoah woah woah everyone. When did jub become the alliance leader?
A lot seemed to just happen arbitrarily. :P
Apparently because he claimed Tatl
And no one counterclaimed him in the next half hour? Really?
Because Im Tatl
When I claimed Tatl? I'm going to die this phase because I went too fast and didn't read the part where there's a guy that can get past the guard thing, so it'd be nice if my death wasn't wasted!
Bubbles, counter-claiming won't protect me, I'm going to die from the wolves tonight.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on February 03, 2013, 05:26:05 PMWoah woah woah everyone. When did jub become the alliance leader?
Yeah...
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 03, 2013, 05:26:32 PMLiggy. Liggy. Liggy.
I'm not Tingle either. :'(
Oh you two... :P
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on February 03, 2013, 05:31:22 PMAnd no one counterclaimed him in the next half hour? Really?
Because Im Tatl
What's going on here? :S
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on February 03, 2013, 05:31:22 PMAnd no one counterclaimed him in the next half hour? Really?
Because Im Tatl
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
WE SAID NOT TO CLAIM TO THE THREAD
I still don't get what's happening.
Guys
stahhhhhhhhhhhhhppppp
In Night one, nothing has happened and everything is food for the wolves ok?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 03, 2013, 05:35:29 PMWHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
WE SAID NOT TO CLAIM TO THE THREAD
I still don't get what's happening.
Quote from: Winter on February 03, 2013, 05:36:07 PMGuys
stahhhhhhhhhhhhhppppp
Yes, let's use logic, people, and not get all confused; it's not helping anybody.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 03, 2013, 05:33:30 PMBubbles, counter-claiming won't protect me, I'm going to die from the wolves tonight.
-.- can you spell it out a little clearer? i dont think the wolves know i was lying yet
tl;dr post!
Bubbles was trying to save me by confusing the wolves and claiming my role, but I didn't respond to her pm in time to say that it was a bad idea.
Liggy claimed Zora mask and both Verm and Liggy have claimed the Tingle role.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 03, 2013, 05:39:34 PMtl;dr post!
Bubbles was trying to save me by confusing the wolves and claiming my role, but I didn't respond to her pm in time to say that it was a bad idea.
Liggy claimed Zora mask and both Verm and Liggy have claimed the Tingle role.
Any we're just confusing ourselves in the process, which is never a good thing for the humans. D:
It's kind of hard not to claim your role when people are counterclaiming it.
All I have to say is that
my spider senses are tingleling
Here's the current claims: (in order)
Tat'l - Jub3r7
Zora Mask - Liggy
Here are the retracted claims: (in order of claiming)
Tingle - Liggy
Tingle - Verm
Tat'l - Bubbles (I think?)
This has been pretty hectic.
Unless, of course, you have a reason to keep it secret. LIKE GIVING THE WOLVES THE ABILITY TO KILL MORE PEOPLE. If you're really Tingle, you should just have kept quiet and let the wolves wolf Liggy and then be disappointed by the lack of brutal.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 03, 2013, 05:42:00 PMAll I have to say is that
my spider senses are tingleling
That was really lame.
i am tatl
and zora mask
and tingle too
also please
water we taking abowt
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 03, 2013, 05:43:37 PMUnless, of course, you have a reason to keep it secret. LIKE GIVING THE WOLVES THE ABILITY TO KILL MORE PEOPLE. If you're really Tingle, you should just have kept quiet and let the wolves wolf Liggy and then be disappointed by the lack of brutal.
Yeah...
Right about now, we need to focus on getting organized, lest we doom ourselves before things get into full gear...
*puts on stone mask*
Anyway, I still need blues to claim to me before I die so my death doesn't go to waste?
Please?
ill even tell you who the real tingle is
(neither verm nor liggy)
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 03, 2013, 05:43:37 PMUnless, of course, you have a reason to keep it secret. LIKE GIVING THE WOLVES THE ABILITY TO KILL MORE PEOPLE. If you're really Tingle, you should just have kept quiet and let the wolves wolf Liggy and then be disappointed by the lack of brutal.
That was really lame.
But I have a mask.
Do you really want me dead?
No. Forgot you had a mask. In that case, it was just a lame attempt by Verm. You know what, why don't we just forget anything happened. -__-
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 03, 2013, 05:53:27 PMNo. Forgot you had a mask. In that case, it was just a lame attempt by Verm. You know what, why don't we just forget anything happened. -__-
Starting anew might be the best thing at the current moment... (not too "new," but... :P)
What is the point of discussing that xD
So if the wolves have the Goron Mask, they can take out three people in one night? O_o
Four if they hit Tingle.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 03, 2013, 06:37:59 PMSo if the wolves have the Goron Mask, they can take out three people in one night? O_o
Only two, unless they use the snipe.
one of them has a day power, that's why
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 03, 2013, 06:46:12 PMOnly two, unless they use the snipe.
I meant including the snipe. Either way, wolvesies are powerful this game. There's a lot of flexibility with the masks.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 03, 2013, 06:46:12 PMOnly two, unless they use the snipe.
Seeing that the guardian will guard me and that the wolves know it, it's pretty likely they'll snipe me tonight.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 03, 2013, 07:28:19 PMSeeing that the guardian will guard me and that the wolves know it, it's pretty likely they'll snipe me tonight.
?? Does the snipe hit through guard ??
Yes, which is why it was a bad idea for me to claim.
True, but a snipe is exponentially more useful near the end of a game when they know who the HMS is
(admit it, it's all of our greatest foe)
also the total amount of players is less, making the 'one time use' bypass guardian kill kind of a waste right now.
HEY, STARTING FROM HERE ON OUT, NOBODY CLAIMS WHICH MASK THEY HAVE!
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 03, 2013, 07:45:24 PMHEY, STARTING FROM HERE ON OUT, NOBODY CLAIMS WHICH MASK THEY HAVE!
Agree. It really was never a good idea.
Night one post.
Hey guys. I'm here now.
I don't know if we're utilizing IRC still, but the room that our main site links to is where I'm at, and will be when there's food for thought (not that there already isn't)
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=%23TWGNSM
I here now.
I'm not about to read six pages of this.
I'm in the chat, if anyone wants to talk.
Maestro, I strongly suggest you read the previous pages at some point as there's been important stuff going on (namely, Jub being the Tribute and counterclaims of other roles).
Guys, I'm Human claim to me!
(Unless someone counter claims, then you know...)
...
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 03, 2013, 11:37:03 PMGuys, I'm Human claim to me!
(Unless someone counter claims, then you know...)
Seems legit!
...
I actually got a claim.
Few things to be noticed:
- Brutaling power must be activated before the brutal wolf gets lynched, otherwise the power will be wasted
- The brutal wolf won't lose his power if he sends me the brutaling PM and doesn't get lynched
- In a scenario like this:
1. Happy Mask Salesman (Holding Goron and Deku Masks)
2. Skull Kid (holding Zora Mask)
3. Human
4. Human
5. Human
And Skull Kid gets lynched, both teams, humans and HMS win.
- In a scenario like this:
1. Happy Mask Salesman (Holding Goron and Deku Masks)
2. Skull Kid
3. Human (holding Zora Mask)
4. Human
5. Human
And Skull Kid gets lynched, the game won't end yet since a Human is holding the Zora Mask.
- Tribute power overridings:
Insta>Tribute>Lynching
... hello.
Claiming tribute has quite low profits for the humans, 'cause there is nobody who should be revived: revived guardian would just die the next night. Same thing with Link. Reviving a random human is useless. Don't ask about Tingle. Weak alliance is weak.
And claiming to liggy would be risky, he could be Majora. Not probably, but possibly.
Actually don't claim to anyone, it could ruin the game with higher chances than saving it.
But since I've already claimed as tribute, which was a bad idea in the first place, it would be an even worse idea to let my claim go to waste.
The guardian needs to claim to me in private message so the wolves don't false claim your role and so the alliance can be formed before I die!
If you haven't read the last six pages (cough cough maestro), I claimed tribute and it's important for the other blues to claim to me before I am sniped at phase end!
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 03, 2013, 07:45:24 PMHEY, STARTING FROM HERE ON OUT, NOBODY CLAIMS WHICH MASK THEY HAVE!
i have the goron mask
If you haven't claimed to jub yet, you need to ASAP.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 04, 2013, 10:40:47 AMBut since I've already claimed as tribute, which was a bad idea in the first place, it would be an even worse idea to let my claim go to waste.
The guardian needs to claim to me in private message so the wolves don't false claim your role and so the alliance can be formed before I die!
If you haven't read the last six pages (cough cough maestro), I claimed tribute and it's important for the other blues to claim to me before I am sniped at phase end!
...but what if you are a wolf... you could have been trying to make the actual tribute counterclaim so you could take them out early (and now, trying to get humans to claim to you).
And you seem certain that the wolves WILL snipe you: as mentioned early, I believe (by Winter?), I doubt they'd be hasty enough to use it at this time (I may be wrong... :P). If they don't, they may be trying to put you in a position that makes you seem like a wolf (if in the case you are not).
Quote from: Hunter of Souls on February 04, 2013, 09:09:47 AMClaiming tribute has quite low profits for the humans, 'cause there is nobody who should be revived: revived guardian would just die the next night. Same thing with Link. Reviving a random human is useless. Don't ask about Tingle. Weak alliance is weak.
And claiming to liggy would be risky, he could be Majora. Not probably, but possibly.
Actually don't claim to anyone, it could ruin the game with higher chances than saving it.
Until we have some people actually confirmed (as in, blue humans confirmed through seerings), claiming will be risky.
Just played catch-up.
Wow, you all are idiots. It's clear that nobody was paying any attention to each other or thinking through their actions. Seriously, the last 5+ pages were just mostly the normal Night 1 chaos that highly involved games normally have.
At the moment it appears that Jub is the alliance leader? Correct?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 04, 2013, 01:00:07 PMJust played catch-up.
Wow, you all are idiots. It's clear that nobody was paying any attention to each other or thinking through their actions. Seriously, the last 5+ pages were just mostly the normal Night 1 chaos that highly involved games normally have.
At the moment it appears that Jub is the alliance leader? Correct?
I also just read through the last 5 pages, and yeah, typical night 1 B.S. I think we need to calm down and take a step back. If jub is our leader and is sure he will get sniped, he'll be appointing a new leader before the phase ends, so specials need to claim to him ASAP so a wolf doesn't become the human leader(and that my children, would be vewy bad). Otherwise, right now all the chatter is just giving the wolves ideas on who to kill.
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time
6. Tatl - Tribute
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human
vermilionvermin played the BEN version of Majora's Mask.
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Dawn of the First Day.
48 hours remaining.
Day 1 ends 48 hours from now(11 PM GMT).
Is there no cardflips?
What was seer result?
Generally there aren't cardflips until the host says so explictly.
Also, Jub's not dead? Well. This could eather be a good thing, or a bad thing, depending on how you look at it.
No cardflips in this game, you might want to read the rules carefully before you start playing or at least this bolded sentence:
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 03, 2013, 03:00:21 PMUniversal effect: Masks(items)
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 04, 2013, 03:01:42 PMvermilionvermin played the BEN version of Majora's Mask.
Day 1 ends 48 hours from now(11 PM GMT).[/b]
RIP Verm. :'(
Rule of the thumb:
Try reading the first post before you do anything else in the game.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 03, 2013, 03:00:21 PMEvery time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
FSM, My StarFox 64 cart has "Ben" written on it. Am I going to die?
I'm dead serious, BTW. :P
yes
I'm sorry, I didn't seer anyone. I really didn't have any time, no one really gave me a good idea last night, and I just got home now despite thinking I was to get home at 4:30.
:/
wolfs are the most original ive seen in my career
Quote from: Yugi on February 04, 2013, 08:03:31 PMwolfs are the most original ive seen in my career
They're probably playing it safe (most likely, I'd presume).
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 04, 2013, 03:28:47 PMRule of the thumb:
Try reading the first post before you do anything else in the game.
I've never quite understood universal effect and it didn't say there was no cardflips.
Sorry but I've read the op multiple times. :P
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 04, 2013, 11:43:29 PMI've never quite understood universal effect and it didn't say there was no cardflips.
Sorry but I've read the op multiple times. :P
"Universal effect: Masks(items) and NO CARDFLIPS IN THIS GAME"
Yeah you're right, this is definitely the way to say it.
If you read it multiple times, where the fuck you got an idea that there are cardflips, because if there were cardflips, I'm pretty sure I would let you guys know that. :P
I think it's because people got spoiled on the idea of cardflips, since a good amount of the past few games have had them.
Ok FSM, sorry?
Pretty much every game I've played and remembered here has had cardflips.
apology rejected because of the question mark
The *notify* button didn't do shit so I'm posting here to actually get notifications like I wanted from the beginning.
ban me eye dare u
I believe the notify button just sends you an email when people post.
Hrm.
Since it's the day phase, and time is steadily slipping out of our hands, who shall we lynch? Does anybody in particular appear to be extremely suspicious?
Perhaps it's time to... you know, DISCUSS some things? :P
In the chat.
24 Hours Remaining
FSM, can HMS use the masks he gets? And can he use multiple powers?
It says the answer in his description pretty clearly. :P
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 05, 2013, 03:14:11 PMFSM, can HMS use the masks he gets? And can he use multiple powers?
HMS can use the secondary powers of the masks(seer and vigi, Deku Mask's effect is useless on HMS) meaning he'll still be seered orange all times. And yes, HMS can use multiple effects in one Night.
Oh, so it does.
Also, do we have a seering result?
Quote from: Liggy on February 04, 2013, 05:34:43 PMI'm sorry, I didn't seer anyone. I really didn't have any time, no one really gave me a good idea last night, and I just got home now despite thinking I was to get home at 4:30.
:/
Really?
Alright then. I'm still in the chat for talking and junk and stuff.
...since there doesn't seem to be very much going on, and little evidence to go on, at the current moment (to avoid lynching Jub, or somebody who might be a special, human, or Tingle):
Safety on TheZeldaPianist275
I'm going to saftey on shadowkirby for now.
The brutal happens when the brutal human dies; it doesn't indicate whether by lynching alone, or otherwise, or is it if the player just dies in general. FSM, clarify if you please.
safety on Boy
If he hasn't been voted for I safety Maestro.
I'll be more useful when school ends this week.
dammit maestro
I was going to safety me too.
People should post chat logs.
Quote from: Yugi on February 05, 2013, 08:50:04 PMsafety on Boy
If he hasn't been voted for I safety Maestro.
Um, could you not put two votes in the same post?
Okay then Boy
Please remember that the safeties should be temporary, since it is absolutely necessary to discuss who to lynch, lest we lynch somebody important to the human cause.
Well actually safties shouldn't exactly be 'temporary', I think that's the wrong term?
They are sort of permanent because you're not really suppose to be able to post after you stick a safety down.
I'm probably wrong though.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 05, 2013, 11:33:13 PMThey are sort of permanent because you're not really suppose to be able to post after you stick a safety down.
Yes.
I can't be here when the phase ends so I made a safety.
I'll go for Hunter for being so quiet.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 05, 2013, 11:33:13 PMWell actually safties shouldn't exactly be 'temporary', I think that's the wrong term?
They are sort of permanent because you're not really suppose to be able to post after you stick a safety down.
I'm probably wrong though.
...
There hasn't exactly been any lynching discussion. If we are being rash and just vote for whomever we feel like, it is almost guaranteed that we will lynch a human.
There's not much to go on yet. It has been pretty funny though xD
Anyway, Liggy claimed tribute once, regardless of my opinions of that, that's a red character. he could be protecting himself early on as a wolf if he was. He also produced no seering result, which could also be circumstantial, or he could be leaving us in the dust with less knowledge.
Either way, nobody else has proven suspicious.
Anyone have some thoughts on this? I'd hate to be going in the wrong direction as much as you.
Semi safety on Winter. This is actually a safety, because I really won't be on for the rest of the phase.
In response to his most recent vote, I'm not sure where this is coming from. I had a legitimate reason for not being able to supply a seering result (that being me volunteering four and a half hours directly after school, and forgetting that I did until that day). I claimed Tingle (for clarification, you said Tribute, which was incorrect) in order to try and test Jub's humanity. As it turns out, I accidentally posted it to the thread, so I had to reveal that the claim was fake.
My intentions are pure, but I will admit that I made some mistakes. They were honest mistakes, but really nothing I should be prosecuted for.
Unless you claimed then checked your messages and found out that your partners said it was a bad idea.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 05, 2013, 08:08:27 PMThe brutal happens when the brutal human dies; it doesn't indicate whether by lynching alone, or otherwise, or is it if the player just dies in general. FSM, clarify if you please.
Shit, I'm having trouble understanding that. Looks like my English isn't so good after all.
So I think this is what you're asking me to say:
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 03, 2013, 03:00:21 PM15. Tingle - Brutal Human When killed, a randomly chosen, blue human will die. Knows that he's the Brutal Human.
If Tingle dies
in any way his effect will activate. There are no exceptions that would stop Tingle's effect from happening.
Safety on
davy, 'cause I'm too busy tonight and I don't really have a clue who to vote.
Yes I've been inactive but there isn't too much to talk about. Posting something unuseful just for being active isn't really my style.
Quote from: Winter on February 06, 2013, 02:49:10 AMThere's not much to go on yet. It has been pretty funny though xD
Anyway, Liggy claimed tribute once, regardless of my opinions of that, that's a red character. he could be protecting himself early on as a wolf if he was. He also produced no seering result, which could also be circumstantial, or he could be leaving us in the dust with less knowledge.
Either way, nobody else has proven suspicious.
Anyone have some thoughts on this? I'd hate to be going in the wrong direction as much as you.
Liggy has the Zora Mask and he hasn't been counterclaimed. The Zora Mask would be too much to lose this early, so at least this Day Phase he shouldn't be lynched.
Feel bad since it's her first game but I've been having a Tingle* since the start.
*;)
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 06, 2013, 07:22:07 AMFeel bad since it's her first game but I've been having a Tingle* since the start.
*;)
What. First of all it's a he. He was playing in the last game. And
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft.qkme.me%2F3rg85l.jpg&hash=6b4a7ec90e27d22808bd7267c0b68d3092817c0a)
Oh forgot vote.
Winter
Can someone explain me why jub, who claimed to be a special, but was not sniped should be a player we all claim to?
Quote from: davy on February 06, 2013, 08:24:33 AMCan someone explain me why jub, who claimed to be a special, but was not sniped should be a player we all claim to?
Although Jub could easily be a wolf or the Happy Mask Salesman, I think that the fact he was not sniped may mean that the wolves could be trying to frame him (creating doubt, such as yours).
I may not be right, though, and I still don't entirely trust him...
safety on sheikah cause I'll be at bowling tonight when the phase ends.
Right, well Verm earlier claimed to be Tingle, so the wolves probably attacked him in the hopes of killing both him and a blue. Since nobody else died, it would seem that he lied. Why? is the question we should be asking.
Liggy also claimed to be Tingle, I believe. I'm thinking the wolves took Verm's word over his when choosing who to wolf. Now this doesn't give us much of a lead, but it does tell us that Tingle is at least still alive.
Also, there are two tributes. So I'm not going to be so quick to trust Jub just yet.
Safety on Social. Not having a Seering result makes this difficult...
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 06, 2013, 11:11:31 AMAlthough Jub could easily be a wolf or the Happy Mask Salesman, I think that the fact he was not sniped may mean that the wolves could be trying to frame him (creating doubt, such as yours).
I may not be right, though, and I still don't entirely trust him...
This framage makes sense. I can see that train of thought.
Also, after having read the how to play board again and again, I still don't understand the concept of a safety. Can someone please explain?
The phase ends at 6 EST, correct (about half an hour)?
A safety technically is supposed to be used when you are not able to be online or be unavailable from the point you are posting to the end of the phase. It isn't really right to safety a playr who already has a vote. Many people misunderstand safeties as a "hesitant" vote instead of a "safety net" (see the relation there?".
If you dont know who to vote for, you dont safety. Meaning this Ill hesitantly vote for Yugi mainly because idk and I dont want an every player KitB
I just realized my last sentence didnt make sense but I think everyone can understand it XD
I made it back in time. Safety on davy
And than I realise that I've been already safetied.
Sorry shadowkirby, but you seem the least helpful player atm.
Winter so I don't die. Now where are those chat logs!!
Quote from: Liggy on February 03, 2013, 05:24:13 PMI retract that claim. I wanted to test if Jub was a wolf by trying to get him to waste his sniper on me, but I screwed up and claimed to the thread. Whoops.
I was just reading the thread again. I wanna draw attention to the bolded print. Waste his sniper? Waste his sniper? That would make sense if Liggy claimed to have the Deku Mask, but he claimed Zora. Jub would not be wasting his sniper, because it would result in Liggy's death. I guess it's not solid proof, but this is the fishiest thing by far I've seen yet.
Liggy.
You could be right but doesn't the, "But I screwed up" part not cover for that? I don't know, I'm fishy about Winter just now.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 06, 2013, 03:00:54 PMI was just reading the thread again. I wanna draw attention to the bolded print. Waste his sniper? Waste his sniper? That would make sense if Liggy claimed to have the Deku Mask, but he claimed Zora. Jub would not be wasting his sniper, because it would result in Liggy's death. I guess it's not solid proof, but this is the fishiest thing by far I've seen yet.
Liggy.
Hmm...
Very interesting there... though, you forgot, if Liggy's claim was false, that would mean that he would probably be just a regular human, which WOULD mean that the wolves would be wasting their snipe, something they could use on a special human or Tingle.
And also Liggy can't be a wolf if you want to base it on his no seering result, the wolves seer someone anyway and noone counterclaimed.
Quote from: Liggy on February 06, 2013, 04:15:12 AMSemi safety on Winter. This is actually a safety, because I really won't be on for the rest of the phase.
In response to his most recent vote, I'm not sure where this is coming from. I had a legitimate reason for not being able to supply a seering result (that being me volunteering four and a half hours directly after school, and forgetting that I did until that day). I claimed Tingle (for clarification, you said Tribute, which was incorrect) in order to try and test Jub's humanity. As it turns out, I accidentally posted it to the thread, so I had to reveal that the claim was fake.
My intentions are pure, but I will admit that I made some mistakes. They were honest mistakes, but really nothing I should be prosecuted for.
Right, I meant Tingle.
Regarding my thoughts on Liggy.. It's very much a gamble, but I suppose me dying is a better outcome than Tingle and another human. I'm going to check the IRC here shortly
Also in chat.
Safety on Liggy because I don't want a phantom, and I only have a list of people I don't not suspect, rather than any particular suspicions.
Forgot to bold Liggy
Well you know. I'm Tingle. Thanks for killing me. I had to make up a stupid excuse in order to not get wolf'd, because evidently retracting a claim accidently posted publicly is a stupid idea. I coearly should've just kept the claim there and have two specials dead. That would've been fun, right?
Jub3r7 because I didn't know liggy already had votes on him.
The phase ended 4 hours ago? I dont think changing your votes will do anything. If it helps your first vote on Liggy wasnt on time either XD
Uhhh, FSM? Helllllllooooooooo, where are you?
I hope he's ok...
Remember that time SuperFireKirby got grounded and the phase didn't end for two weeks and finally mg took over
Seriously!? When was this? That's hilarious!
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 06, 2013, 07:10:45 PMUhhh, FSM? Helllllllooooooooo, where are you?
I hope he's ok...
Last time he was on was almost seven hours ago.... :/
Holy shit the phase hasn't ended.
This is the greatest day of my life.
Ok, so the phase is over, but FSM hasn't updated yet.
Jub's vote, by my math, was an hour too late anyway, so his vote shouldn't count.
Phases end when they are scheduled to, not just "whenever the host gets around to it".
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 06, 2013, 07:12:08 PMRemember that time SuperFireKirby got grounded and the phase didn't end for two weeks and finally mg took over
O_O
How long ago? Have things changed since then? :P
HOLY SHIT I PROMISED MYSELF I WOULDN'T DO THIS AGAIN D:
...fell asleep, sorry so much. Just so we're clear, the phase ended 6 hours ago. Any votes given after that do not count. This includes TZP's vote that was given 54 seconds after the phase's end.
I'll end the phases now in this time, so this won't happen again.
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time
6. Tatl - Tribute
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human
Vote map:
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah (Sheikah)
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275 (BDS)
6. Winter (Liggy, TBWCW, shadowkirby)
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy (Winter)
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy (Hunter)
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf (Social)
14. shadowkirby (Maestro, davy)
15. SocialFox/Yugi (blueflower, Bubbles)
Winter used the Bomb Mask without a shield. :(
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Mask re-roll! I'll send the PMs in a sec.
You played the Song of Time.
Beginning of the second Night.
24 hours remaining.
Night 2 ends 24 hours from now(5 AM GMT).
But the song of time sends you back to the Dawn of the first day.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 06, 2013, 09:03:23 PM...fell asleep, sorry so much. Just so we're clear, the phase ended 6 hours ago. Any votes given after that do not count. This includes TZP's vote that was given 54 seconds after the phase's end.
Winter used the Bomb Mask without a shield. :(
Mask re-roll! I'll send the PMs in a sec.
*eye twitch*
Now it's time to guess what role Winter was so we can determine what roles everybody else is. :P
Because I'm such a happy host, no phantoms was distributed that Day.
I think I owe it to you.
Quote from: Yugi on February 06, 2013, 09:04:39 PMBut the song of time sends you back to the Dawn of the first day.
go home
PMs sent.
Psh. and I just got back in to this game
so uh
Could i be guarded please?
Y so?
Because I claimed Tingle, and am now a huge target?
Quote from: Liggy on February 07, 2013, 02:54:35 PMBecause I claimed Tingle, and am now a huge target?
Hmm, well, we can't entirely trust you, since both Tingle and the Brutal Wolf seer as red, and you didn't have a seering result when you said you had the Zora Mask (although I do understand forgetting things)...
The problem is, either way, we can't risk killing you as well(whether through vigi or lynch; the wolves would be eager to wolf you if you ARE Tingle): if you're Tingle, a special human will die.
But, why the heck would the wolves not want to kill me? It's probably just a good idea to guard me anyways.
No. This has bad idea written all over it. I thought you retracted your Tingle claim?
Quote from: Liggy on February 06, 2013, 05:52:26 PMWell you know. I'm Tingle. Thanks for killing me. I had to make up a stupid excuse in order to not get wolf'd, because evidently retracting a claim accidently posted publicly is a stupid idea. I coearly should've just kept the claim there and have two specials dead. That would've been fun, right?
I'm entirely convinced that everyone here has the idea that my posts are nonsense and should be disregarded. Somehow.
I still don't understand if you're claiming or not. I think you are.
If that's the case, we still have no proof that you're Tingle. Although if you are and you die, so does a special. So.... hm.
I guess it'd probably be a good idea to guard you then..... but you still are pretty high on my suspicion list.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 03, 2013, 05:42:00 PMAll I have to say is that
my spider senses are tingleling
I'm also confused on exactly what I did wrong. I mean yeah, I lied to cover up my mistakes, but the alternative would've been for me to sit there and die, killing me and a special. Claiming in the thread wasn't a good idea, but it was a legitimate mistake. I'm used to forums having a PM button on every post, so I mistakenly quoted a post when I wanted to PM.
So yeah. I really haven't done anything suspicious, and by calling me suspicious you're basically begging for the Brutal Wolf to counter claim me in order to gain trust with you guys.
This is true. Unless of course you're the Brutal Wolf.
But you have no reason to think that, so why on earth am I "pretty high" on your suspicion list? Yes, when playing TWG, you should always remain a little skeptical, but you should never be paranoid.
Think it over.
Quote from: Liggy on February 07, 2013, 06:37:08 PMBut you have no reason to think that, so why on earth am I "pretty high" on your suspicion list? Yes, when playing TWG, you should always remain a little skeptical, but you should never be paranoid.
People call me paranoid all the time... :P
Anything is possible, but some things are more or less likely than others...
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time
6. Tatl - Tribute
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human
Bubbles7689's milk was robbed by mysterious people. She went to the Milk Bar and never came back.
The Boy Who Cried Wolf was hit in the head by a Moon's Tear.
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Dawn of the Second Day.
48 hours remaining.
Day 2 ends 48 hours from now(5 AM GMT).
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 07, 2013, 09:04:37 PMBubbles7689's milk was robbed by mysterious people. She went to the Milk Bar and never came back.
The Boy Who Cried Wolf was hit in the head by a Moon's Tear.
Dawn of the Second Day.
48 hours remaining.
Day 2 ends 48 hours from now(5 AM GMT).
RIP Bubbles and Boy. O_o
One of them, I presume, was vigi'd, and the other was wolfed?
Also, if anybody has any masks, now will be the time to claim, before lynching discussions begin.
I CAN BE ACTIVE NOW YAY.
Well Jub's still alive, as is Liggy. At this point, I'm more interested in Liggy, since he should've been a quick target for the wolves due to his claim. And yes, masks please come foward, what was the seer result?
Lovely.
I've got the Deku mask.
Bubbles.... Boy......
You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 08, 2013, 05:04:37 AMYou've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?
NO, I WAS SAVING THAT FOR LATER
JURK
woo
Well this has become dead.
Quote from: Yugi on February 09, 2013, 01:01:35 AMWell this has become dead.
Are you people afraid of discussion, and are worried that people will become suspicious of you??
People asking the mask holders to reveal themselves are sooooooo suspicious. Why?
Deku: the first mask HSM has to get through lynching. The holder can't die through vigi, so HSM can't retrieve it that way. Instead, he would try to get the people claiming in the thread, so he didn't have to rely on the chance that at some point some deku mask holder would get wolfed. Sooooooo suspicious.
Goron: the second mask HSM has to get through lynching. Some wolf has this at this point, and the chance of a wuff claiming this is so low, prosuming the wolves know how to play. Even later a wolf wouldn't claim the mask. Sooooooo useless, but sooooooo suspicious for the HSM. Why? HSM wants this mask, because then he can vigi the next Zora mask holder. If people were stupid enough to claim these, Sooooooo suspicious.
Zora: doesn't really matter, HSM would get this anyway, and asking the mask is almost useless. Not sooooooo suspicious, except for the fact that no HSM would ask just for the first two masks.
And why HSM wanted these? Because if the wolves would be stupid enough to false-counterclaiming any of these, HSM could try to get people paranoid enough to vote for a real mask holder.
At this point BDS and Maestro have wanted the masked ones to claim. Because I'll be away for the rest of the phase (again), I'll go with Maestro, for the fact that he doesn't usually ask stupid questions and such. Defense appreciated.
But now that BDS asked more eagerly some information, he could be HSM as well. However, BDS is like this every damn time, so I can't (for now) say wether he is just doing the basic BDS (being suspicious) or a bad HSM play. Also defense appreciated.
Discuss the wall of text. Or something, it's too quiet over here.
Yes, I'm asking for masks to claim, so that way we don't kill them.
But you are right about something, the wolves won't counter claim any of the mask holders, for two reasons:
1) So the actual holder doesn't get lynched
2) So they don't get lynced themselves.
The masks are the centerpiece in the game, they are also the most crucial element. Having them publicly claim is the best option so that way everyone knows to avoid them during the wolfings and lynches. Having them claim privately to one person isn't useful because only a few would know about it, since communication here is rather lacking.
I was supposed to be away, but I got some more time. Just some.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 09, 2013, 07:08:50 AMYes, I'm asking for masks to claim, so that way we don't kill them.
But you are right about something, the wolves won't counter claim any of the mask holders, for two reasons:
1) So the actual holder doesn't get lynched
2) So they don't get lynced themselves.
The masks are the centerpiece in the game, they are also the most crucial element. Having them publicly claim is the best option so that way everyone knows to avoid them during the wolfings and lynches. Having them claim privately to one person isn't useful because only a few would know about it, since communication here is rather lacking.
My stuff was crap. I know the mask holders should claim. Like BDS said, people won't talk. I just tried to come up with something for you guys to discuss. But I keep the vote, it probably will not affect anything.
I hate quiet games like this, wolves or HSM win this way. So sad to see humans so weak. Vigi is no use, it's just a matter of luck. Majora can fake a seering. Tribute is no use, there is nobody worth reviving as long as people won't talk. The whole alliance can't do anything, part from guarding somebody. So sad.
If you guys have an idea how humans could do anything to get more information, post it or PM it to somebody you trust. Break the damn silence.
We could do better if people started talking, we could co-ordinate the use masks and such.
Isn't Jub supposedly the alliance leader, or did we give up on that? Why? Where did everybody go? There was tons of activity Night 1, so why'd it stop? There's no game if you people don't play.
We have a problem!
davy was seered navy before he died, meaning he had the goron mask. The HMS has the upperhand right now.
Yes, of all the masks he could have gotten that was the worst. Now he can just take potshots every day.
Unless he's already dead. FSM, what happens to the masks if the person holding one dies but the HMS is dead too?
That's a good question. They would either die with him (as most items tend to die with the player holding them) or go back into play, which creates some long term logistical nightmares trying to plan out winnng strategies.
Although, as long as one mask is in play at all times, then we are in a good spot.
Ok, so this is bad. HSM knows who has the masks, meaning collecting them is a matter of diligence for him. Who has the other two masks then? I want to try not to give HSM anymore of an advantage than he's got at this point. They're going to be shuffled again at the end of the phase, so HSM won't get anything from knowing who has what right now.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 09, 2013, 08:56:31 AMWe have a problem!
davy was seered navy before he died, meaning he had the goron mask. The HMS has the upperhand right now.
Am I dead?!
Wait, no you're not.
Well, if you have the Goron mask, and are not dead, then that's good. One less for HMS.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 09, 2013, 09:06:53 AMFSM, what happens to the masks if the person holding one dies but the HMS is dead too?
They will be lost in the void. :o
Reminder
Quote from: the sausage market13. As of January 17th, 2013, following TWG XLVI: Have it Your Way, hosts are allowed to replace players who receive phantom votes, at their discretion. Any player who receives two phantom votes in one game will given a single game ban, but will not be ejected from the current game. If a player has a really, really good excuse for why they weren't able to come online for 2 minutes and make a safety vote, the phantom penalty may be waived.
Quote from: Hunter of Souls on February 09, 2013, 02:03:03 AMAt this point BDS and Maestro have wanted the masked ones to claim. Because I'll be away for the rest of the phase (again), I'll go with Maestro, for the fact that he doesn't usually ask stupid questions and such. Defense appreciated.
But now that BDS asked more eagerly some information, he could be HSM as well. However, BDS is like this every damn time, so I can't (for now) say wether he is just doing the basic BDS (being suspicious) or a bad HSM play. Also defense appreciated.
Discuss the wall of text. Or something, it's too quiet over here.
I want the mask holders to claim so that we don't lynch/vigi them, and so that the HMS DOESN'T get the masks; that would be rather contradictory and would help nobody. :P
I'll have to think about it a bit more before I vote.
Ok, I have an idea to narrow down who the HMS could, in fact, be.
Because he can't randomly obtain a mask, those players who have are not him.
Quote1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Dead players "most likely" aren't him. I say most likely because the only lynched player was winter, and though it would be quite ironic if he was the HMS, I doubt he was.
Quote1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Finally, if we are to assume that jub is Tael from lack of counterclaims, we are left with the following players who could be the HMS with the current info:
1. blueflower999
5. TheZeldaPianist275
7. MaestroUGC
9. Hunter of Souls
12. BlackDragonSlayer
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
At least two of these people are current mask holders, and should claim so we can better narrow down the search. Seer results should also be shared to eliminate more players from the list. Sorry for the long post, I'll decide who to vote for later after more info is revealed.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 09, 2013, 11:16:36 AM1. blueflower999
5. TheZeldaPianist275
7. MaestroUGC
9. Hunter of Souls
12. BlackDragonSlayer
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
I have a feeling that this will make people a lot more paranoid about me, especially after last game... :P
The real HMS will certainly use that to his advantage. :-\
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 09, 2013, 11:00:54 AMThey will be lost in the void. :o
What would have made this game REALLY awesome is if instead of three normal humans, there were the Deku butler's son, Darmani, and Mikau, who are just like normal humans, but when they die, they turn into the Deku, Goron, and Zora masks respectively to be then used as they are right now. :O
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 09, 2013, 11:14:09 AMI want the mask holders to claim so that we don't lynch/vigi them, and so that the HMS DOESN'T get the masks; that would be rather contradictory and would help nobody. :P
I'll have to think about it a bit more before I vote.
I think I agree with this, as the wolves can't hit them and the HMS will stick out like a sore thumb if he tries to get them lynched.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 09, 2013, 11:16:36 AMOk, I have an idea to narrow down who the HMS could, in fact, be.
Because he can't randomly obtain a mask, those players who have are not him.Dead players "most likely" aren't him. I say most likely because the only lynched player was winter, and though it would be quite ironic if he was the HMS, I doubt he was.Finally, if we are to assume that jub is Tael from lack of counterclaims, we are left with the following players who could be the HMS with the current info:
1. blueflower999
5. TheZeldaPianist275
7. MaestroUGC
9. Hunter of Souls
12. BlackDragonSlayer
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi
At least two of these people are current mask holders, and should claim so we can better narrow down the search. Seer results should also be shared to eliminate more players from the list. Sorry for the long post, I'll decide who to vote for later after more info is revealed.
This is good, unless one of the mask holders has already died, in which case the HMS would have a mask and claim to have it. And we'd be searching in the wrong place. Are we sure all three masks are out of the HMS's hands?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 09, 2013, 11:20:00 AMThis is good, unless one of the mask holders has already died, in which case the HMS would have a mask and claim to have it. And we'd be searching in the wrong place. Are we sure all three masks are out of the HMS's hands?
We don't know that, but as long as all the mask holders claimed to jub at some point, then we should be ok.
The masks move each night phase, so the players holding them will always change.
But the HMS can't get them from the nightly re-roll. So if someone had one at some point, they aren't him.
Yes, but what's to stop him from claiming a mask he has gotten from a dead player?
Or from just outright lying?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 09, 2013, 11:53:40 AMYes, but what's to stop him from claiming a mask he has gotten from a dead player?
Or from just outright lying?
Because false-claiming only works for one night.
Outright lying doesn't work combined with everybody else's facts, as well, unless the HMS is REALLY charismatic. :P
I suppose, but it's still not going to be a clear-cut process of elimination, because Link always get's a mask, plus it is possible for some players to never get one, thanks to random chance.
I'm just saying we need to find a supportive means of finding HMS, in combination of the mask holder list.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 09, 2013, 10:55:12 AMWait, no you're not.
Well, if you have the Goron mask, and are not dead, then that's good. One less for HMS.
I do not have the Goron Mask, jub probably meant Bubbles or TBWCW, and if that's the case, we'll probably have to defend our Deku mask very well, because that's the only mask the HMS can nog obtain by vigi'ing.
Actually, we could use a self-destructing stratigy. If the Goron Mask is in the hands of the HMS we should lynch the player with the Zora Mask so that the HMS doesn't screw us over. Than, the only mask that will distributed will be the Deku Mask, which automatically goes to Link. This will keep Link from being vigi'd, so the HMS won't be able to kill him. The wolves won't kill him eighter because that will cause the HMS to win. This means that as long as the wolves don't know wheter or not the HMS is still alive, we'll have an alliance leader.
Of course, this only works if the Zora Mask holder claims and if Link has the Deku mask. Which means that eighter Sheikah must be Link, or Link must obtain the Deku mask next phase.
If the Zora Mask holder is not Link, that player should claim. Sheikah should not tell the topic if he's Link or not untill the Zora Mask holder has claimed, because the Zora Mask holder might be a wolf.
If the Zora Mask holder does not claim, or Sheikah claims (after the Zora Mask Holder has claimed) not to be Link, we should pray that Link obtains the Deku Mask next night phase and that the Zora Mask won't be given to a wolf.
That seems rather dangerous, needlessly so at that. Link cannot be guarded, so having him claim is just fodder for the wolves once HMS is out of the way.
Plus if another Special Human has the other mask, or one of the brutals, then it puts the humans in an even worse spot.
Quote from: davy on February 09, 2013, 12:30:36 PMI do not have the Goron Mask, jub probably meant Bubbles or TBWCW, and if that's the case, we'll probably have to defend our Deku mask very well, because that's the only mask the HMS can nog obtain by vigi'ing.
Actually, we could use a self-destructing stratigy. If the Goron Mask is in the hands of the HMS we should lynch the player with the Zora Mask so that the HMS doesn't screw us over. Than, the only mask that will distributed will be the Deku Mask, which automatically goes to Link. This will keep Link from being vigi'd, so the HMS won't be able to kill him. The wolves won't kill him eighter because that will cause the HMS to win. This means that as long as the wolves don't know wheter or not the HMS is still alive, we'll have an alliance leader.
Or, simply, lynch the HMS this phase. If we do that, it would be too easy to mess up and would guarentee a victory for the HMS.
Yes, but we need to fins him first. Seriously, who has the masks? We're running out of time and I'd like to avoid lynching a mask holder.
In the chat.
Is the chat the one Yugi sent some time ago in the thread?
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 09, 2013, 11:36:19 AMBut the HMS can't get them from the nightly re-roll. So if someone had one at some point, they aren't him.
HMS can receive masks when they're re-distributed. HMS was unable to receive masks only in the first distribution.
Well that makes identifying him even harder... I really don't know who to vote for. Seerings don't seem to be helping...
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 09, 2013, 01:49:41 PMHMS can receive masks when they're re-distributed. HMS was unable to receive masks only in the first distribution.
Wait what?
That would've been nice to know.
Wolves and the HMS have nothing to gain from being active, so I think that they're among the inactives.
Shadowkirby is inactive as usual, but did try to prevend his death, something which is way more usefull for a wolf/HMS than for a normal human (and if he was a special, he would probably be more active). Also, he changed his vote right after I voted for him, which was very close to the phase ending. It's as if Shadow was expecting to get another vote and was therefore checking the topic just before the phase ended.
Jub, you are needed in the chat. Right now.
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Topic set by bird on Mon Jan 21 2013 13:52:07 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)
09:31 Yugikun hi
09:31 Hunter hi Yugi
09:31 Maestro AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
09:31 Maestro Hey Yugi.
09:31 Yugikun ?
09:32 Hunter Yugi, any defense? you are on sheikahs list
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09:32 BlackDragonSlayer Hello again.
09:32 Yugikun Not really.
09:33 BlackDragonSlayer Has anything else happened?
09:33 BlackDragonSlayer Hello.
09:33 Hunter nothing really big
09:33 Maestro Not particularly.
09:33 Yugikun I can see no defence out of me not recieving a mask.
09:33 Maestro I think the idea of the list was to use it to narrow down the names with behavior patterns.
09:34 BlackDragonSlayer I know that one of you here is the HMS. I have the Zora Mask.
09:34 Yugikun orly
09:34 BlackDragonSlayer One of you people seered orange.
09:34 Maestro Just not having a mask this early isn't much of a crime.
09:34 Yugikun But davy was seered veil.
09:34 Yugikun or whatever goron colour is
09:34 BlackDragonSlayer Maestro is orange.
09:34 BlackDragonSlayer He is the HMS.
09:35 Yugikun But davy was seered veil.
09:35 Yugikun But davy was seered veil.
09:35 Yugikun But davy was seered veil.
09:35 Yugikun But davy was seered veil.
09:35 Yugikun But davy was seered veil.
09:35 BlackDragonSlayer I always seem to get suspicious of people I chat with, for whatever reason, so I decided to seer him!
09:35 Yugikun But davy was seered veil.
09:35 Hunter davy doesn't matter now
09:36 Hunter he can't be HSM
09:36 Hunter he would be seered orange
09:36 Yugikun So BDS Can't have Zora mask.
09:36 BlackDragonSlayer Remember that Majora's Mask has a seer also; MM could easily false-claim Zora Mask for one night.
09:36 BlackDragonSlayer To push suspicion off of him.
09:36 BlackDragonSlayer *himself
09:37 Yugikun What if bubbles was Majora?
09:37 Yugikun does that mean bubbles is a okama?
09:37 BlackDragonSlayer That may be possible, but I doubt it.
09:38 *** sheikah joined #TWGNSM
09:38 Hunter hi sheikah
09:38 sheikah Heeeeeeeyyyyyy everybody, what did I miss?
09:38 Yugikun hi sheikh how are you today
09:38 Maestro Yo.
09:38 sheikah Not bad, not bad at all
09:38 BlackDragonSlayer Maestro is the HMS
09:38 Yugikun But davy was seered veil last night
09:39 BlackDragonSlayer Have you forgotten about Majora's Mask!?!?
09:39 Yugikun oops
09:39 BlackDragonSlayer MM could EASILY false-claim Zora Mask for one night; one night would be all it would take to push suspicion away.
09:39 Yugikun But how do we know that you're not Majora's Mask!?!?
09:40 BlackDragonSlayer Because I wouldn't be so foolish to blatantly state my plan in front of you, if I were MM.
09:40 BlackDragonSlayer I wanted to wait until Maestro said something that gave him away, but that's plain foolish: as I mentioned, HE could claim that HE has the Zora Mask.
09:41 Maestro What.
09:41 BlackDragonSlayer Maestro is very-extremely clever, so I doubt he would have said anything like that anyway.
09:43 Maestro Alright, if you had that knowledge, why didn't you say so as soon as possible?
09:43 BlackDragonSlayer "I wanted to wait until Maestro said something that gave him away, but that's plain foolish: as I mentioned, HE could claim that HE has the Zora Mask."
09:44 Maestro Finding the HMS is No. 1 priority, why just sit on it it, knowing it could be dealt with?
09:44 BlackDragonSlayer If you were the HMS, you could easily do something like, say, claim that I didn't have the mask.
09:44 BlackDragonSlayer (of course, you are... )
09:44 BlackDragonSlayer Because you could "deal" with me rather easily in such a "position of power," knowing who has what mask.
09:45 BlackDragonSlayer If they trust you, and not me, any seering and anything I say is pointless.
09:45 Maestro ...what?
09:46 BlackDragonSlayer You could easily make it seem like I didn't have the mask, or, rather, you could claim YOU had the mask, and get me lynched, meaning that you would get the mask.
09:46 sheikah well...this seemed to escalate rather quickly.
09:47 BlackDragonSlayer Obviously...
09:47 Hunter sits back and eats popcorn
09:47 sheikah hey, pass some over here
09:47 Yugikun I'll keep my salt chips here.
09:48 BlackDragonSlayer ...
09:48 BlackDragonSlayer . . .
09:49 Yugikun . . .
09:49 sheikah , , ,
09:49 BlackDragonSlayer . . .
09:49 BlackDragonSlayer , , ,
09:49 Hunter ???
09:49 sheikah ENOUGH!
09:49 BlackDragonSlayer Myaaah.
09:49 BlackDragonSlayer Yes, back to the point, something really important.
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09:50 BlackDragonSlayer Lori_Danger, who are you?
09:50 sheikah Lori! hey wa'sup gurl!
09:50 Lori_Danger I'm Lori! I found this site through Tumblr and decided to check it out since it was Zelda related
09:51 Maestro ...uh.
09:51 Yugikun I only use tumblr to read a hentai blog.
09:51 sheikah sorry, we are disscussing a forum game from Ninsheetmusic,
09:51 Maestro ....UH.
09:51 sheikah wut
09:52 sheikah soooooo anywho...
09:52 Maestro Right, BDS.
09:52 BlackDragonSlayer ._.
09:53 Lori_Danger Oh, I'm not entirely sure what Ninsheetmusic is, but I may lurk around a bit and see if it sounds interesting, if y'all don't mind. C:
09:53 BlackDragonSlayer C:
09:53 sheikah go right ahead!
09:53 BlackDragonSlayer A guy with a mushroom hat?
09:53 BlackDragonSlayer C
09:53 BlackDragonSlayer Oops
09:53 BlackDragonSlayer C : D
09:53 Yugikun And everyone ignored the fact that I read hentai.
09:53 Maestro We didn't.
09:53 Lori_Danger Doesn't everyone read Hentai?
09:54 sheikah No, thats why we were like
09:54 BlackDragonSlayer Nope.
09:54 sheikah and not usually...
09:54 BlackDragonSlayer :S
09:54 BlackDragonSlayer
09:54 Lori_Danger >_>;
09:54 Yugikun XD
09:55 BlackDragonSlayer Back to the point: I am certain that Maestro is the HMS; it would make little sense if I were, or if I were Majora's Mask; I would never be so utterly foolish!
09:55 BlackDragonSlayer Why would I want to draw attention to myself...
09:55 sheikah oops, I'll be right back guys
09:55 BlackDragonSlayer The HMS is a very dangerous foe, and can easily turn the tables on us, and, at the current moment, me, because I am the one who seered him.
09:55 Yugikun see ya
09:55 Maestro You're not, though, you're trying to draw attention to me.
09:56 BlackDragonSlayer But I am the one making the statements, drawing partial attention to me.
09:56 BlackDragonSlayer If that makes any sense. You're trying to push it over to me, so that you can avoid getting lynched.
09:57 Maestro You just came out of the bllue, with knowledge that would've been useful a while ago, accusing me with no basis for your accusation.
09:57 Maestro Spouting off paranoid reasoning.
09:57 Maestro As for why you waited.
09:57 BlackDragonSlayer I've only had this information since the beginning of the day phase.
09:58 BlackDragonSlayer And I've already stated why I waited.
09:58 BlackDragonSlayer Because you could easily be doing what you're doing now, except more extreme.
09:58 Maestro Which is really odd.
09:58 BlackDragonSlayer No more so than doing it earlier.
09:58 sheikah back
09:58 Maestro If you had the Zora mask, you would've said so, and gotten me lynched already.
09:58 BlackDragonSlayer You could EASILY turn the tables on me, if I would have done it earlier, and said that I was the HMS, and gotten me lynched to defend myself.
09:59 BlackDragonSlayer But you could've claimed that I didn't have it.
09:59 Maestro Do you have it?
09:59 Hunter goes to get some more popcorn...
09:59 BlackDragonSlayer You could say that either I am the HMS, and you have the mask, or that I am Majora's Mask.
09:59 Yugikun *goes to read hentai*
09:59 BlackDragonSlayer It's easy for you to think of a cover, one which you can use to get me lynched, while still defending yourself.
09:59 Maestro No, if you had the mask, you would've claimed so when you asked for the masks to claim publicly.
10:00 sheikah WHY DONT WE JUST KILL YOU BOTH!
10:00 BlackDragonSlayer That's why I waited, especially with davy's plan (which involved lynching the Zora mask holder )
10:00 Maestro Davy's plan was foolish anyway.
10:00 BlackDragonSlayer If I had claimed, you could make it seems as if YOU had the Zora's Mask, and I were the HMS.
10:00 BlackDragonSlayer That is pointless.
10:00 Yugikun I like your idea sheikh *casts ultima*
10:01 BlackDragonSlayer The point is that you, as the HMS, have the advantage, and can use it to kill off the mask-holders and get the masks yourself.
10:01 BlackDragonSlayer The information wouldn't have made any difference earlier.
10:01 BlackDragonSlayer Only the time of this discussion would be different.
10:01 Maestro Yes, it would've.
10:01 BlackDragonSlayer No.
10:01 BlackDragonSlayer You'd just be doing the same thing.
10:02 Maestro It would've brought a pretty swift insta.
10:02 BlackDragonSlayer On me, yes.
10:02 BlackDragonSlayer They would have believed you over me.
10:02 sheikah both fit my list of possible mask salesmen, we could do it, just a matter of which one first...
10:02 BlackDragonSlayer They're always paranoid of me, it seems.
10:02 sheikah you bring it on yourself knida
10:02 BlackDragonSlayer They'd be eager to lynch me instead of you; YOU could easily defend yourself.
10:02 Maestro Because you keep spouting really paranoid reasons for your actions.
10:02 Maestro Like this.
10:03 BlackDragonSlayer The difference is that it's not paranoid.
10:03 Maestro Why not say something earlier then?
10:03 BlackDragonSlayer Because it would've been even worse.
10:03 BlackDragonSlayer It would not have helped any; if anything, it would make people think that I was the HMS.
10:03 Maestro ....
Maestro HOW?
10:04 BlackDragonSlayer Trying to eliminate the "real" Zora Mask holder.
10:04 BlackDragonSlayer READ EVERYTHING ABOVE!
10:04 BlackDragonSlayer You could have counterclaimed, and made it seem like *I* was the HMS.
BlackDragonSlayer It's so easy for you to do, because you know who has the masks.
Come to the chat.
MaestroUGC
Ninja'd by chatlog. O_o
10:07 Yugikun I am the terror that faps in the night
Come to chat to know why I said this.
17:51 Yugikun I only use tumblr to read a hentai blog.
Best part ;D
09:53 Lori_Danger Doesn't everyone read Hentai?
After she left:
18:12 sheikah LOOOOOORRRRIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!
:'(
10:12 Yugikun IT WAS MAESTRO IN THE BALLROOM WITH THE LEAD PIPE.
We should probably stop posting random stuff from the chat now.
Why? that's the best part!
Chat continuation:
18:04 BlackDragonSlayer READ EVERYTHING ABOVE!
18:04 BlackDragonSlayer You could have counterclaimed, and made it seem like *I* was the HMS.
18:04 BlackDragonSlayer It's so easy for you to do, because you know who has the masks.
18:05 Yugikun Posted this in thread.
18:05 Yugikun ?
18:05 BlackDragonSlayer It would not have made any positive difference; I don't know what's so hard to understand about that?
18:05 sheikah http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=6474929
18:05 BlackDragonSlayer Who is Batman, though? O_o
18:06 sheikah Well, Im not saying its me, but have you ever seen us together in the same place?
18:06 Maestro I have.
18:06 Lori_Danger I'm Batman!
18:06 Maestro Last tuesday, in fat.
18:06 Maestro *fact.
18:06 sheikah Shut up Robin, you arent helping.
18:07 sheikah Lori, you can be Batgirl.
18:07 Yugikun I am the terror that faps in the night
18:07 Yugikun *flaps
18:07 sheikah No, first one works better for you
18:07 BlackDragonSlayer If I had claimed earlier, it would just set up a situation to allow you to make me seem like the HMS and assert your position as current holder of the Zora Mask and a "human"
18:08 Lori_Danger All my friends call me Batman, actually, 'cause once in a fit of awkwardness I told some extended family that since my Mom is dead if we could just get rid of my Dad, I'd be Batman. Thankfully they didn't catch on, 'cause I'm sure they don't share my same sense of humour.
18:08 BlackDragonSlayer Essentially painting myself into a corner.
18:08 BlackDragonSlayer I doubt they would have believed me, since people rarely do...
18:08 Maestro Kind of like you're doing now?
18:08 BlackDragonSlayer No.
18:08 BlackDragonSlayer No matter what, I have to say it; it just matters WHEN is the best time to.
18:08 Hunter BDS, Jub said in the thread that davy was seered goron. And we have just one possible human seer
18:09 Hunter discuss
18:09 sheikah I like your sense of humor Lori
18:09 BlackDragonSlayer I was waiting for you to say something so I could make everyone be sure that you were the HMS.
18:09 Maestro BDS says he has the Zora Mask.
18:09 Lori_Danger Thank you Sheikah C:
18:09 BlackDragonSlayer You're forgetting Majora's Mask, Hunter; he could easily claim Zora Mask for one time in order to make himself seem human.
18:09 BlackDragonSlayer And he would be subtle, not like me.
18:10 Maestro Either Jub is listening to Majora, or Majora is BDS.
18:10 BlackDragonSlayer It's all about taking advantage of the situation.
18:10 BlackDragonSlayer Ah ha! You're doing exactly what I said you'd do!!
18:10 BlackDragonSlayer You're trying to turn the tables on me to defend yourself...
18:11 BlackDragonSlayer Which is why I didn't do it earlier. '_-
18:11 BlackDragonSlayer I bet that we seem like a bunch of crazy people, Lori_Danger...
18:11 *** Lori_Danger quit (Broken pipe)
18:12 BlackDragonSlayer Or me...
18:12 sheikah NOOOOOO
18:12 Maestro Ha.
18:12 sheikah LOOOOOORRRRIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!
18:12 Maestro She was his one true love, lost to the eternal waves of the Internet.
18:12 sheikah Screw off maestro
18:12 Yugikun IT WAS MAESTRO IN THE BALLROOM WITH THE LEAD PIPE.
18:13 sheikah HA I GET IT!
18:13 sheikah GOOD ONE YUGI!
18:13 Maestro BDS, you just described a self-fufilling prophecy.
18:14 BlackDragonSlayer But you're doing exactly what I said you'd do.
18:14 Maestro Those are the facts though.
18:15 BlackDragonSlayer You're trying blame me of being the HMS to defend yourself.
18:15 BlackDragonSlayer It would make no sense if I were the HMS.
18:15 Maestro No, you're saying I'm doing that.
18:16 BlackDragonSlayer That would have to make me the most crazed fool ever.
18:16 Maestro I'm saying, if you had this info, you would've said so.
18:16 BlackDragonSlayer I did.
18:16 BlackDragonSlayer I explained very clearly why I didn't earlier; it was too risky without any further proof to prove to everybody my point.
18:16 BlackDragonSlayer Because, if in doubt, they'd rather lynch me.
18:17 Maestro How much more proof do you need, other than, "I have the Zora Mask"
18:17 BlackDragonSlayer A lot more; you could easily say that YOU have the Zora Mask, and say the same you are now.
18:18 Maestro But I don't have the Zora Mask, and I highly doubt you are HMS.
18:18 BlackDragonSlayer But if I can prove it before I claim, there is little/no risk, which didn't exactly work out.
18:18 Maestro Your paranoia would prevent you from being so bold.
18:18 sheikah Ladies, please, you're both attractive, now can we please get to the part where we decide which of you we kill first?
18:19 BlackDragonSlayer So you're contradicting yourself...
18:19 BlackDragonSlayer Maestro; since he's the HMS, he gets the mask if I die.
18:19 Maestro If you had the mask, why wait.
18:19 BlackDragonSlayer Because being rash is foolish and would get NOWHERE.
18:19 Maestro As soon as you would've said "Maestro is Orange" a flood of votes would've followed.
18:20 BlackDragonSlayer No; I doubt they'd believe me so soon.
18:20 Maestro Probably not, but who would counterclaim?
18:20 Maestro Other than HMS.
18:21 BlackDragonSlayer Nobody else COULD counterclaim, or they'd reveal themselves as Majora's Mask, if they counterclaimed the Zora's Mask.
18:21 BlackDragonSlayer Then again, if they didn't believe me, it would not matter. :|
18:21 Maestro So what was you point, again?
18:21 BlackDragonSlayer *headgrind*
18:22 sheikah https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSk4tScjPTBb5mFiVHdF75Gimh7yW3fhOjQ6We2U3zB1NeYqhqL
18:22 sheikah like with this?
18:22 BlackDragonSlayer Against the wall.
18:23 Maestro If you had the Zora mask, why keep it a secret?
18:23 Maestro What if you were killed during the night?
18:23 BlackDragonSlayer Did you not read what I said above.
18:23 sheikah HUNTER ARE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING OR NOT!?
18:23 BlackDragonSlayer *facepalm*
18:23 BlackDragonSlayer Did you not read what I said above?
18:24 BlackDragonSlayer If the HMS had the Vigi, I'd be dead.
18:24 BlackDragonSlayer If I claimed early in the day, you could frame be, and I'd be dead.
18:24 Maestro He wouldn't have gotten it until the end of the night.
18:24 Yugikun YEAH HUNTER
18:24 BlackDragonSlayer *you could frame me
18:24 Yugikun YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE SOMEthiNG TO SAy
18:24 Yugikun ALWAYS
18:24 BlackDragonSlayer What if the person had been killed earlier.
18:24 Hunter wait I'm thinking
18:26 Maestro Granted, that's true enough.
18:26 BlackDragonSlayer Oh, my head is starting to ache and I need to water my science plants...
18:26 Yugikun SCIENCE
18:26 Maestro But, the other mask holder (I'm not good with names) could've guarded you from the vigi if thas the case.
18:26 Hunter Maestro is the HSM: davy said he doesn't have the Goron Mask. Page 15. So that means if that seering result was fake, the seering of Maestro isn't.
18:27 BlackDragonSlayer But, as I said earlier, you could've counterclaimed.
18:27 Hunter sorry, logic fail
18:27 Hunter don't read it
18:27 sheikah you had my hopes up
18:27 sheikah Baka
18:28 Maestro What kind of logic was that?
18:28 BlackDragonSlayer The thing is, under normal circumstances, very few people trust me. You've seen that with previous lynches I've tried to push, they just end up turning the kill on me, like Mashi in the Pokemon League (correct game?)
18:28 BlackDragonSlayer Being the rogue last game doesn't help, either.
18:28 Maestro Jub claims davy was seered navy and was also dead.
18:28 BlackDragonSlayer It just adds fuel to the fire...
18:28 Maestro Niether of those are true.
18:28 Maestro So I just assumed he confused the names
18:29 Hunter that's why I said it doesn't work
18:29 Hunter I'm stupid
18:29 Maestro BDS, that just proves you aren't a very effective player.
18:29 BlackDragonSlayer ???
18:30 BlackDragonSlayer I cannot be effective if nobody trusts me.
18:30 Maestro If other players are able to turn the tides against you, you're arguments aren't effective.
18:30 BlackDragonSlayer Because nobody believes me either way.
18:30 Maestro Because of you're rampant paranoia.
18:30 BlackDragonSlayer But I'm right.
18:30 BlackDragonSlayer Caution is different from paranoia.
18:30 Maestro So you say, every time.
18:31 BlackDragonSlayer * (usually )
18:31 BlackDragonSlayer Because it is different.
18:31 BlackDragonSlayer Your point wouldn't prove anything; you'd essentially be saying that I'm a crazed maniac who doesn't know what he's talking about.
18:31 sheikah I still say we kill them both
18:31 sheikah save us a lot of sanity later
18:32 BlackDragonSlayer That's always a good idea '_-
18:32 sheikah What, now you want to be lynched?
18:32 BlackDragonSlayer I never said that, did I?
18:33 sheikah you knida did
18:33 Yugikun Hey maestro
18:33 BlackDragonSlayer It's better that you lynch both of us than that you lynch only me, because the earlier way guarentees that the HMS dies, whether you believe me or not.
18:33 Yugikun where are the analaysis
18:33 Yugikun 's for Doctor game
18:33 BlackDragonSlayer If you lynch only me, HMS can get the mask.
18:33 Maestro On the way.
18:34 *** Lori_Danger joined #TWGNSM
18:34 Maestro Hey.
18:34 sheikah LORI!!!!!!!!
18:34 BlackDragonSlayer Hello again.
18:34 Yugikun Hi.
18:34 sheikah So, how was the afterlife?
18:34 Lori_Danger SHEIKAH!!!
18:35 Lori_Danger Not many people around. The place was pretty dead.
18:35 Maestro Ha.
18:35 sheikah BA'DUM TSK!!!!!
18:35 sheikah LOL
18:35 Maestro Shh. Hunter's thinking again.
18:35 Lori_Danger I absolutely love puns, so I take any chance I can to execute one.
18:36 Maestro Fantastic.
18:36 Hunter if a mask holder dies, does the power still come to effect?
18:36 Maestro Yes
18:36 Maestro ?
18:36 Hunter damn
18:36 sheikah what do you mean, like if the goron mask dies but uses it?
18:37 Hunter yes
18:37 Maestro I would think so, unless the wolves used their snipe already.
18:37 Hunter why the hell would they have
18:38 sheikah what about when bubbles and boy died?
18:38 BlackDragonSlayer As Winter said, it would make sense for them to wait.
18:38 BlackDragonSlayer Vigi?
18:38 Hunter exactly
18:38 Yugikun Why did we lynch Winter?
18:38 BlackDragonSlayer If the HMS already has the vigi, then he's already become a dangerous foe.
18:38 sheikah then boy/bubbles was actually tingle, and the other was a blue?
18:39 BlackDragonSlayer That could happen as well...
18:39 Maestro Didn't Liggy claim to be Tingle?
18:39 Maestro Along with Verm.
18:39 sheikah yeah, ugh this is confusing
18:39 Hunter and both retracted their claims
18:40 sheikah again, ugh
18:40 Maestro Where's Jub.
18:40 Maestro He could help to clear alot of this up.
18:40 Yugikun offline
18:40 Maestro Since he apparently flubbed with the seering result he posted.
18:40 Hunter sherlock holmes over here
18:41 Hunter said to yugi
18:41 sheikah somewhere around Tenesse?
18:42 Yugikun he lives where slow lives?
18:42 sheikah thats what the "where int the world" topic says
18:42 sheikah *in
18:44 BlackDragonSlayer Goodbye
18:44 BlackDragonSlayer 10
18:44 BlackDragonSlayer 8
18:44 BlackDragonSlayer 6
18:44 BlackDragonSlayer 4
18:44 BlackDragonSlayer 2
18:44 BlackDragonSlayer 0
18:44 *** BlackDragonSlayer quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
18:44 sheikah Yugikun Why did we lynch Winter?
18:44 sheikah Too many safeties
18:45 sheikah back on track
18:45 Maestro I didn't vote for him.
18:45 sheikah 3 votes
18:45 Maestro Of course, he never posted a defense.
18:45 Maestro Well Bye, BDS.
18:45 sheikah boy, shadow, and liggy
18:45 sheikah not in that order though
18:46 Lori_Danger I have no clue what's going on honestly, but it sounds a lot like this game some of my friends up at this place called Gamers 'N Geeks play called Werwolf.
18:46 Maestro Yep.
18:46 sheikah Same basic priciple
18:46 Lori_Danger Oh, that's really cool!
18:47 sheikah http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5357.0
18:47 Lori_Danger So you have to figure out who's the Happy mask Salesman?
18:47 Maestro Ok, I'm trying to get the chat log, but it's not letting me.
18:47 sheikah we have to find the salesman and the wolves in order to win
18:48 Lori_Danger Oh, cool!
18:48 sheikah right now, HMS is the primary problem
18:48 Lori_Danger So is it on a time limit?
18:48 sheikah not reall, just till someone wins
18:48 sheikah you should play with us next time
18:49 Lori_Danger I'll read up on it and try to associate myself with all of the rules and everything so I can! It seems like a super fun game.
18:49 Maestro It is.
18:49 sheikah HUNTER! again with the being red and not saying things!
18:50 Maestro Can somebody post the chat log, cause apparently I can't.
18:50 sheikah I got it
18:50 Maestro Thanks.
Well, I'm going to vote for Maestro, and here's why:
1)He fits my list of possible mask salesmen.
2)BDS claims to have "seered him orange". Now, I don't fully trust BDS, but a possible seering is better than no seering, and the zora mask wasn't countered, so yeah.
Vote for BDS for people not to rush on Maestro. BDS was counterclaimed before he knew it. Jub said we have a seered goron davy, but according to him, he is not, but either boy or bubbles is. If we had the damn result now, it would be a lot easier to tell if BDS lied. So Jub, wake up, or the seer, wake up, claim and tell the truth. If we won't get anything, Maestro is the HMS.
^This. I understand lack of activity in a game can be a good strategy, but right now it's just plain no fun.
I agree with Hunter as of right now. BDS.
Quote from: Hunter of Souls on February 09, 2013, 04:24:19 PMVote for BDS for people not to rush on Maestro. BDS was counterclaimed before he knew it. Jub said we have a seered goron davy, but according to him, he is not, but either boy or bubbles is. If we had the damn result now, it would be a lot easier to tell if BDS lied. So Jub, wake up, or the seer, wake up, claim and tell the truth. If we won't get anything, Maestro is the HMS.
You are forgetting Majora's Mask, the wolf seer. If MM talked to Jub directly, it would be easy for him to appear to be human by seering for one night and "helping" the humans.
voting for davy as a safety.
And now Maestro can vote BDS and have the majority, one of you, Shtap it.
Actually, we might as well kill both of them, so if you want to kill BDS now, we can kill maestro next day phase.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 09, 2013, 04:58:16 PMActually, we might as well kill both of them, so if you want to kill BDS now, we can kill maestro next day phase.
But then Maestro gets the mask; if he has any others, he can wreak havoc before he's lynched.
And if you wait for the mask to be passed on, you can keep a seering (hopefully) on the human side.
So guys
my computer got a virus! D:
Does spitllama still want to play?
Quote from: shadowkirby on February 09, 2013, 06:06:52 PMSo guys
my computer got a virus! D:
Does spitllama still want to play?
D:
Yikes; I hope you can save your computer...
Quote from: shadowkirby on February 09, 2013, 06:06:52 PMSo guys
my computer got a virus! D:
Does spitllama still want to play?
Umm.... Let me or Deku do the uploading of sheet music for the time being.
Sorry for being kinda inactive, but whenever I get on the IRC no one is on.
Anyways, BDS seems more suspicious than Maestro, so I'd rather lynch him first. Don't recall him ever claiming to have a Zora mask, and there's no human seer.
Quote from: Liggy on February 09, 2013, 07:13:16 PMSorry for being kinda inactive, but whenever I get on the IRC no one is on.
Anyways, BDS seems more suspicious than Maestro, so I'd rather lynch him first. Don't recall him ever claiming to have a Zora mask, and there's no human seer.
...That's because I just claimed earlier in this phase. T_T
You people are doing exactly what I was afraid of...
In all the excitement, I almost forgot to vote.
Yugi
If BDS does have the Zora mask, like he claims, we'll know soon enough, as it will be claimed Night 3. Also, I don't want to chance giving it to HMS on a silver platter.
Also, BDS, your accusation wouldn't have been this bad if you didn't make a federal case about your credibility before a counter-argument was made.
Granted, this would all be made easier if Jub would just give us all something to work with.
So the vote towards me was a safety?
Yes.
The Song of Inverted Time was played.
The phase will be extended by 6 hours.
What?
You mean 96 hours.
Right?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 09, 2013, 08:19:47 PMIf BDS does have the Zora mask, like he claims, we'll know soon enough, as it will be claimed Night 3. Also, I don't want to chance giving it to HMS on a silver platter.
Also, BDS, your accusation wouldn't have been this bad if you didn't make a federal case about your credibility before a counter-argument was made.
Granted, this would all be made easier if Jub would just give us all something to work with.
Underlined: *facepalm*
Italic: ??? If you're saying what I think you're saying, that makes no sense? :P
And, additionally, about the bold: You people keep forgetting that the wolves have a seer as well. :P
I did mean TBWCW, it was boy who had the mask. Link seered him navy before he died, sorry for the mix-up with the names.
And seriously, I was only gone for a day, what the heck happened?
BDS says I'm HMS. He says he knew the whole time and just "waited for the right moment" to say anything.
Also, the only way BDS could have seered Maestro would be if he was the wolf seer, because Link had the Zora mask.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 09, 2013, 10:44:40 PMBDS says I'm HMS. He says he knew the whole time and just "waited for the right moment" to say anything.
Gee, I wonder why!?!? :P To exactly avoid this.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 09, 2013, 10:45:18 PMAlso, the only way BDS could have seered Maestro would be if he was the wolf seer, because Link had the Zora mask.
How do you know that the person is Link, especially since it is only the second day? Unless Liggy seered them without telling it publicly...
And if I were a wolf, don't you think I'd have the brutal tell you instead, so you have to lynch them...? :P
I know it's link because he's the only guy with a mask two phases in a row.
Which means that HMS also knows the identity of Link.
And to explain me not dying the first phase, I had the deku mask so the think that was sniper couldn't kill me.
I asked FSM the moment the phase ended and apparently we aren't told if we're shot and the shot doesn't work.
Soooo I have no idea if I'm safe right now.
So BDS, if you admit to being a wolf who found the identity of HMS, I think it'd be a priority to lynch the HMS due to the fact that he now has the power to vigi and he knows link's identity, and from there the game has one additional phase before HMS wins and both humans and wolves lose.
Otherwise, if you're not a wolf, how do you know Maestro is the HMS?
We have less than 3 hours in the phase, and if BDS is telling the truth about seering Maestro orange, then we have two lynch targets with Maestro as the priority.
Other possibilities: BDS is the HMS and randomly decided it would be a good idea to pretend to seer Maestro?
BDS is a wolf who is lying about Maestro, which doesn't seem a likely possibility that Maestro is a fellow wolf. Why would a wolf pretend to seer a random human as HMS? I don't really know that either.
BDS is a human who pretended to seer Maestro to cause activity which would be incredibly stupid?
Basically, none of the other possibilities seem likely. If Maestro is the happy mask salesman, he is the lynch priority.
Votes so far:
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah - Maestro
3. Jub3r7 - Maestro
5. TheZeldaPianist275 - BDS
7. MaestroUGC - yugi
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls - BDS
11. davy - shadowkirby
12. BlackDragonSlayer - Maestro
14. shadowkirby
15. SocialFox/Yugi - davy
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 10, 2013, 12:20:42 AMSo BDS, if you admit to being a wolf who found the identity of HMS, I think it'd be a priority to lynch the HMS due to the fact that he now has the power to vigi and he knows link's identity, and from there the game has one additional phase before HMS wins and both humans and wolves lose.
Otherwise, if you're not a wolf, how do you know Maestro is the HMS?
If "Link" were Majora's Mask... if he got a mask first phase (possibly Goron, or none at all even), he would be able to blend in, as I mentioned, unless there is something you are aren't mentioning... or trying to deceive us with (which would mean that you'd be a genius wolf :P).
And, also, if I were a wolf, I stated that it would be a logical deduction to assume I was the brutal speaking on behalf of the seer, so, if you don't trust me... :P
About that last part... I have partial psychic abilities. 8) :P I really do have a strong sixth sense, though
(may be either inherited or caused by head trauma at an early age, something for those scientists to study :P)...
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 10, 2013, 12:43:18 AMWe have less than 3 hours in the phase, and if BDS is telling the truth about seering Maestro orange, then we have two lynch targets with Maestro as the priority.
Other possibilities: BDS is the HMS and randomly decided it would be a good idea to pretend to seer Maestro?
BDS is a wolf who is lying about Maestro, which doesn't seem a likely possibility that Maestro is a fellow wolf. Why would a wolf pretend to seer a random human as HMS? I don't really know that either.
BDS is a human who pretended to seer Maestro to cause activity which would be incredibly stupid?
Goodness... :P Last game, people assumed I was a dumb wolf... and this game, people are assuming I'm just a dumb person all around!! :P My logic may be too "complex" to follow, but that doesn't mean I've gone cuckoo for cocoa puffs quite yet! :S
Don't overthink it too much, though...I can say, though, whether I'm a human or a wolf, I'm willing to make a sacrifice to catch (and bring to justice) the HMS: He's a dangerous foe for all.
Jub said you don't have the Zora Mask, which I wasn't all that conviced of you having in the first place.
BlackDragonSlayer
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 10, 2013, 01:01:41 AMJub said you don't have the Zora Mask, which I wasn't all that conviced of you having in the first place.
BlackDragonSlayer
Ahh, crafty (but rather desperate). ;) You want to force a KiTB to try and issue a last resort "defense." You want to vote before the phase ends to guarentee a KiTB before the possibility that anybody else gets on to interrupt you, giving you and me a 50/50 chance.
As I said, whether I'm a human or a wolf, I would not be lying (especially since the HMS is a powerful foe), and I am most certainly not the HMS (I'm not that foolish to even try such a thing as this if I were in that position, even though you might want to think of me as so... out of fear?).
If you'll read, Jub also said:
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 10, 2013, 12:43:18 AM...none of the other possibilities seem likely. If Maestro is the happy mask salesman, he is the lynch priority.
If this were my first game, it would be safe to assume that I was the HMS... but it's not...
It is foolish to think that I, out of all people (:P), would bring myself on a crashing spiral, brought on by my own lack of insight, which would contradict everything you've come to know about me
(potato).
Maestro, because I don't want to risk anything with the masks.
One does not simply choose who to vote :P. I almost thought BDS could be right, but in the end that doesn't make any sense. So, back to BDS. And please somebody stop the KitB from happening.
Quote from: Hunter of Souls on February 10, 2013, 02:36:21 AMOne does not simply choose who to vote :P. I almost thought BDS could be right, but in the end that doesn't make any sense. So, back to BDS. And please somebody stop the KitB from happening.
Maestro is using the typical doubt that always hangs over my head to his advantage... and of course, I'm probably doomed no matter what. :P If you think about it, either way, it would be better to lynch Maestro first, because if I'm a wolf, I won't be any more of a threat than the HMS while still alive.
The situation wouldn't make sense if I were the HMS trying to frame Maestro, since, if I were the HMS, we wouldn't be in this situation at all, which would cause a type of paradox... :P Then again, the fact that I was the rogue last game does not help me any and only makes you all more afraid of me... and you still call me paranoid... ::)
Just had the most amazing lunch ever!!!
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time
6. Tatl - Tribute
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human
Vote map:
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC (Sheikah, Jub3r7, BDS)
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy (Yugi)
12. BlackDragonSlayer (TZP, Hunter, Maestro)
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby (davy)
15. SocialFox/Yugi
KitB! MaestroUGC=1, BlackDragonSlayer=2. Random.org sayyyyyyyyyyyys...*drum roll*...2!
BlackDragonSlayer lost all his money in the Doggy Racetrack and was so ashamed that he never came back.
1. blueflower999 P
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy P
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby P
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Beginning of the Third Night.
24 hours remaining.
Night 3 ends 24 hours from now(11 AM GMT).
Mask re-roll! PMs going in a sec.
Ok, whoever has the zora mask, seer Maestro because I'm still suspicious of him. Mask holders should claim so that, in the case that BDS wasn't HMS, the wolves don't kill a mask holder and help HMS win.
Whoopsee. I was going to vote BDS, but it looks like I fell asleep first. Sorry, guyz. :-[
I have the Deku Mask, so don't both wolfing me, wolves.
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on February 10, 2013, 03:35:35 AMKitB! MaestroUGC=1, BlackDragonSlayer=2. Random.org sayyyyyyyyyyyys...*drum roll*...2!
BlackDragonSlayer lost all his money in the Doggy Racetrack and was so ashamed that he never came back.
O_O UHOH. That's not go........
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmetroid%2Fimages%2F4%2F4a%2FGame_Over.gif&hash=1de21f89f61a3ea81b793c983df3114d163e800b)
(I really am addicted to Super Metroid... and I couldn't find any better exploding-death animation)
I'll have to extend the phase with one and a half hours, since I have very important business to be taken care of and I won't be here to update.
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time
6. Tatl - Tribute
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human
Hunter of Souls didn't beat the beavers in a swimming race. I think he learned his lesson. Never fuck around with beavers.
1. blueflower999 P
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy P
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. davy
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby P
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Dawn of the Third Day.
48 hours remaining. (I know, it's frivolous)
Day 3 ends 48 hours from now(12.30 AM GMT).
I'm going to drop out because the chaos and lack of activity removed the fun from this game for me.
19 pages = lack of activity? ???
Quote from: davy on February 11, 2013, 11:28:17 AMI'm going to drop out because the chaos and lack of activity removed the fun from this game for me.
K, asking spitllama to take over you.
I still think Maestro is suspicious. Jub, did the zora mask person get a seering on Maestro?
This game's been pretty active, where have you been?
The question is, where is Jub?
I was at school.
Ah.
In the chat for talking or some such nonsense.
Maestro.. BDS's move was really risky, and I doubt he would pull a stunt like that unless he had a reason to. He wouldn't do that as HMS, and if he was wolf or human heprobably did seer him.
Guys I'm sorry I haven't been active. Bunch of stuff has come up and this will prolly be my last TWG for a while. I'll try to keep up the rest of the game though.
Before I make a vote: FSM, what is the "P" in orange after a couple of players' names?
A phantom
Ah. Thanks.
rrggg, too much for tonight. I'll post my vote tomorrow.
Right-O, so will you be joining us then, Spit?
I will. Haven't received my role yet though so don't go accusing yet :P
Maestro is orange.
gg
oops I meant gogogo
K. I'm playing now. You can call me *dramatic camera angle*...
DAVY.
I can also conveniently confirm that davy was human. After reading through 20 pages of text, 85% of which was BS, I'm going to vote for shadowkirby
HMS is the most inactive player. Shadowkirby is actually trying to be inactive this time around, and he's even offering some justification. It's definitely not his typical playing style. As davy said, shadowkirby actually tried to redirect the lynch away from himself. Most players (ex/ myself in Gotta Lynch 'em All) will actually just settle with the lynch of themselves if they are an unimportant player, to avoid a KiTB or ignorant lynch of a potentially more important player. We have no reason to believe that shadowkirby is blue, so I think he's the Salesman.
My initial thoughts running through the pages were:
1) TZP always agreed with BDS. Until he voted for BDS's lynch last day phase, I was pretty sure they were in cahoots.
2) Maestro is typically most active when he's a wolf, but I wouldn't vote on that basis.
3) Why couldn't this (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5357.msg197363#msg197363) have confirmed either Bubbles or Boy to be Tingle? Not sure if this has already been discussed...
Why are we trying to lynch Maestro? I don't see the reasoning besides "that lynch was super close and stuff."
Social did you have Zora's mask or did someone relay that to you?
Also why is Tael a bad guy in this game...?
Quote from: spitllama on February 12, 2013, 01:26:56 PMWhy are we trying to lynch Maestro? I don't see the reasoning besides "that lynch was super close and stuff."
Two different people seered him orange. I'mma say that's pretty convincing evidence.
Oh I missed BDS's seering. I usually gloss over his posts :-X (sorry man)
Jub do you have any infos to share
I don't think there's anything different from what Shadowkirby normally does to what he does now, so he's not getting my vote.
Maestro seems like a much more profitable lynch.
Well would you look at that. I don't know what to tell you people, expect that I'm not HMS.
I'm convinced that BDS was, and now the wolves are trying to frame me to keep the rest of us busy. If Yugi really had the Zora Mask, much like BDS before him, he would've made his possession known. Even if he didn't claim, HMS would've killed him to keep him quiet, since he could vigi. Neither of those things happened, which leads me to believe that the wolves want to keep the human's attention on HMS, even though he's been dealt with, so they can sneak by with a victory.
I'm the victim of a clever frame job. All the wolves need to do is keep us busy. I still believe they have their snipe; and given that there are two seers in play, it makes trusting any seer claims less credible.
Sheikah, as a safety, and so I don't miss a vote.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on February 12, 2013, 01:30:11 PMTwo different people seered him orange.
BDS didn't seer him orange, he made that up.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 12, 2013, 02:29:00 PMBDS didn't seer him orange, he made that up.
But Yugi seered him orange too. So was it luck? Or could he have been Majora? If that's so, then we reeeeeaaaaaally need to lynch Maestro since he potentially has 1/2 the masks.
All right, my top three suspicions:
1. Maestro
2. Sheikah
3. Shadowkirby
Sheikah, if you're confused why you're on there, you've been a little pushy. That's not necessarily overly suspicious, but it's sending red flags off in my mind.
Maestro for now.
TheZeldaPianist, what do you think of Yugi?
Eh, not acting very much worse than normal. At least from what I can tell, I've been sooper busy.
Actually, forgot about the whole Tingle fiasco. Changing vote to Liggy.
The reason I'm pushy is because day 1, nothing got done. No one talked, most people saftied, and we lynched verm (I think thats who?) for no real reason. I feel like if someone doesn't push, nothing gets done, so I took matters into my own hands, and now we have an orange seering on Maestro. If you don't think it's a good idea to lynch him, then it's your funeral.
Quote from: spitllama on February 12, 2013, 01:26:56 PM3) Why couldn't this (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5357.msg197363#msg197363) have confirmed either Bubbles or Boy to be Tingle? Not sure if this has already been discussed...
Because Goron Mask and sniper. I guess it's still within the realm of possibility, though not confirmed.
In the chat, since I think there's stuff to talk about.
Yeah I had Zora mask.
Yugi appears to be having a dissociative episode.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 12, 2013, 09:01:24 PMYugi appears to be having a dissociative episode.
15:55 *** Yugi joined #twgnsm
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15:55 Yugi Hello other me
15:56 Fox Hello
15:56 Yugi Seen any good movies lately?
15:56 Fox I saw that Truman show movie lately
15:56 Fox It was good.
15:57 Yugi Isn't it that movie where the guy discovers he's in a TV Show?
15:57 Fox Yes
15:57 Fox Not as good as layton though
15:57 Yugi wait a minute
15:58 Yugi I hate layton
15:58 Yugi YOU'RE NOT ME.
15:58 Fox LOOK IN MY EYES
15:58 Fox YOU KNOW IT.
15:58 Yugi YOU LIE
15:58 Yugi I HATE LAYTON IPUEYFDFBOPISAUEHFBAEWPUIFB
15:59 Fox FINAL FANTASY SUCKS
15:59 Yugi YOU ARE NOT ME
16:00 Yugi THE REAL ME WOULD NEVER HATE ON RPG'S!
16:00 Fox fuck you
16:00 Yugi fuck you
16:00 Fox fuck you
16:00 Yugi fuck you
16:00 Fox fuck you
16:00 Yugi fuck you
16:00 Fox FUCK YOU!
16:00 Yugi FUCK YOU!
16:01 Fox I HATE YTOU
16:01 Fox I'M LEAVING
16:01 *** Fox quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
16:01 Yugi Good riddance
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16:04 Fox Also your're weeb shit
16:04 Fox and you like hentai
16:04 Fox so there
16:04 Fox I SAID IT.
16:04 Yugi Hey.
16:04 Yugi Hey.
16:04 Yugi Hey.
16:04 Yugi I am a lot of Shit.
16:04 Yugi But I am not weeb shit.
16:05 Fox HAHAHAHHA
16:05 Fox YOU SAID THAT YOU"RE SHIT
16:05 Fox HAHAHHA
16:05 Fox AHHAH
16:05 Yugi
FUCK YOU!16:06 Fox FUCK YOU
16:08 Yugi I HATE YOU OTHER ME
16:08 Yugi GO DIE IN A DITCH
16:08 Fox GLADLY!
16:08 Fox ROT IN HELL MOTHERFUCKER
16:08 *** Fox quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
16:09 Yugi ...
16:09 Yugi I hate other me.
I'd like to use this to prove that my opponent is an incompetent person, and a pathological liar.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 12, 2013, 09:13:12 PMI'd like to use this to prove that my opponent is an incompetent person, and a pathological liar.
FOUR TWENTY.
He also doesn't know what Schoolhouse Rock is.
Yugi
In a serious reason, I highly doubt that he has the Zora Mask. If anything, shadow probably has it, but since he doesn't like playing TWGs, he probably doesn't even know he got it. Odds a better that he's Majora, trying to ride on that fact to get me lynched.
You people seem to forget that there are two seers in play, one always a wolf, the other having a chance of being a wolf. BDS was HMS, and he took the Goron mask with him. Granted, most of the players aren't even online right now, so my lynch seems all too likely.
I pray you find the wolves well.
F*** it, going for broke.
I'm HMS, and you want to know something, it was fun until BDS had to out me in such a poorly handled manner. All he had to do, was at the begining of Day 3 was say as loudly and succinctly as possible "Maestro is HMS." But instead, he just sat on it and bungled his explaination. It would've been a swift insta had he just came out with it.
Also, he was Majora, so good on you humans. I have reason to believe that he's partners with Sheikah, he's normally a man of logic, but seemed to cling to my lynching on the ground sof "This is silly" and persisted even with a lack of evidence to do so. I have no idea who wolf No. 3 could be, and odds are good he's already dead.
Blueflower999 is Link. I figure if I'm giving the humans a helping hand I might as well be bipartisan about it and do the same for the wolves.
I'll run down the list as too who's who as best as I can know.
1. blueflower999 - Link
2. the_last_sheikah - Wolf
3. Jub3r7 - Tatl
4. vermilionvermin - Human
5. TheZeldaPianist275 -Human?
6. Winter - Human
7. MaestroUGC - HMS
8. Liggy - Tingle (yes, I still believe his claim)
9. Hunter of Souls - Human
10. Bubbles7689 - Mostly human.
11. davy/spit - Human, davy quit because he was bored, like any human would like to do.
12. BlackDragonSlayer - Majora
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf - Human
14. shadowkirby - Human, he's his normal, inactive self
15. SocialFox/Yugi - Human
This is what I've been going off of until this point. Now, I was all set to just take the victory, but Yugi surprised me by working in silent. Yes, I could've vigi'd him, but I needed for Blue to not have the Deku mask, since lynching him would be impossible. The other Blue's will protect him, and if I tried to lead a lynch against him I'd run the risk of revealing myself (moot at this point). Relying on the wolves wolfing him isn't effective, especially if the Guard is still alive.
Now, at this point, my lynch is certain, so I'm playing devil's advocate. Petty? Maybe. I gave it a good shot, but as soon as BDS set his paranoid eyes on my I was done for. I tried to just shrug it off, but sheikah would not let it go. Complete with a 3rd party confirming it, my story has ended.
sic semper, villanis
Couldn't update in the morning, I had 20 minutes of time and I had to send two e-mails.
I-I-I-INSTA!!!
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time
6. Tatl - Tribute
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human
Vote map(no votes given/changed after an insta count):
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC (Sheikah, Liggy, Yugi, blueflower999, TZP)
8. Liggy
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. spitllama
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby (spitllama)
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Thank god you people who didn't vote and had a phantom. That would have meant a one-game ban for you.
MaestroUGC didn't feel like jumping back in time because he wanted to see the moon crash. What a boss. Nobody knows what happened to him.
1. blueflower999 P
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy P
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. spitllama
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby P
15. SocialFox/Yugi
You made the Fourth Day glitch happen. Congrats. But you still jumped back in time. Beginning of the Fourth Night.
24 hours remaining.
Night 4 ends 24 hours from now(1.30 PM GMT).
Mask re-roll!
I don'flower what Maestro just said one bit. True, he knew he was going to die, but let's look at this from another angle. Do we have absolute seer proof that Maestro was the HMS? Because if not, he just tried to throw ALL suspicion off Blueflower, and Liggy to a lesser extent. If he was a wolf, then he could gain a lot from that post. We may not have gotten rid of the HMS just yet.
Someone seer sheikah. I don't think we should waste it on blue because it's likely he'll get wolfed tonight.
Well that was interesting.
spitllama went to look for a job from the Shooting Gallery. He ended up working as a target. (He was sniped)
Any exact time the snipe was fired?
02:38:07 AM GMT
Okay. Let's go by Maestro's Logic and say that BDS was Majora. That means that there are two wolves left. Seeming as.
1.A sniping just happened.
2.The only phase with two deaths was night two.
Meaning that we have to lynch a wolf tomorrow if we want to win (unless there were three wolves, meaning that Humans are screwed).
That said. I'm getting a mild suspicioun of TZP.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 13, 2013, 06:01:19 AMI don'flower what Maestro just said one bit. True, he knew he was going to die, but let's look at this from another angle. Do we have absolute seer proof that Maestro was the HMS? Because if not, he just tried to throw ALL suspicion off Blueflower, and Liggy to a lesser extent. If he was a wolf, then he could gain a lot from that post. We may not have gotten rid of the HMS just yet.
Maestro outright claimed HMS in his sort of death post. Plus, he said nothing about Liggy other than that he believes his claim of tingle. Plus (in my one experience as a good wolf). Wolves would want to push lynches so that they would be ignored (?).
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 03, 2013, 03:32:50 PMKay. Hm.
The Happy Mask Salesman is concerning me a little bit. Anybody holding a mask dies, the mask goes to him. Meaning that toward the end of the game, there's going to be a strong chance that he'll get a mask from the deceased. And it's not going to be terribly hard for him to take down Majora. Add that to the fact he can't be wolfed, and that he can use the powers of any mask in his possession, and we have a formidable opponent, one who grows more so by the end of the game. The rogue was more dangerous than the wolves last game; I think that's the case here.
[there were other quotes pertaining TZP's Worry of HMS as well. I'll find them later]
Okay we get it HMS is a difficult opponent stop advertising it. Wolves could have sneaked an easy victory because we were worrying about HMS, and you were worrying it even more than other people, I could see it as a way to make humans ignore wolves, or that worry was genuine.
I'm going to sleep.
Jesus, I completely forgot about this.
I'm the worst host ever. ;_;
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time
6. Tatl - Tribute
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human
blueflower999 was attacked by a Gibdo.
1. blueflower999
2. the_last_sheikah
3. Jub3r7
4. vermilionvermin
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Winter
7. MaestroUGC
8. Liggy P
9. Hunter of Souls
10. Bubbles7689
11. spitllama
12. BlackDragonSlayer
13. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
14. shadowkirby P
15. SocialFox/Yugi
Dawn of the Next(Fourth) Day.
48 hours remaining.
Day 4 ends 48 hours from now(7.30 PM GMT).
(hopefully)
Really? I just started playing. Hrm.
Now that the night phase is over, I think I finally should claim this. I'm Tingle.
At this point I think it's more important to take out a wolf than it is for me to remain hidden.
If you would like to see the hints I was trying to drop, please refer to page 8. I knew for a fact the entire time that Liggy was NOT a wolf, and so he has my vote. Liggy.
............. >:(
I really can't post what I'm feeling right now.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 14, 2013, 01:18:55 PMI knew for a fact the entire time that Liggy was NOT a wolf, and so he has my vote. Liggy.
If that guy's not a wolf, what's your reason for voting him? XD
...wow, fail. I meant Tingle. XD
Wtf FSM
Did you even check your pm's??
Well thanks to my already said reasons for suspecting him, that incredibly suspicious post at the start of Pg 23, and him completly ignoring me when I said I suspected him. I will vote for TZP.
Arg, sorry about that Social. I didn't want to say anything cause it was still the night phase and that would risk a wolfing.
Woah there TZP. Now's a little late for fakeclaiming, isn't it?
Of course it is. Great thing I'm not fakeclaiming then.
What evidence do you have that I'm faking?
Sorry, let me clarify: You're absolutely right, why on EARTH would I falseclaim this late in the game? Because I'm not. I've stayed hidden and let everyone believe you're Tingle. But now there are so few players left, even though I've claimed and they could spare me to cast suspicion on me, the wolves very well might hit me simply because there are not many people left and by killing me they could take two humans out at once, practically ensuring their victory.
I don't expect you to immediately believe me over Liggy, but everyone needs to at least look at my case and my previous discussion with Liggy.
TZP, I want to believe you, but your argument really doesn't add up for me.
Why do you want to believe me, and why doesn't it add up?
Just realized: one more vote, and I'm insta'd. Since it would appear that I'm going to be lynched, you guys are going to lose a special too. If there are three wolves left and you lynch me, we're gone. (3 wolves-1 human) If there are two wolves left and you lynch me, you're gone. (2 wolves- 2 humans) The only case in which you can possibly win is if there is one wolf left when you lynch me (1 wolf-3 humans) in which case at least one of you is going to in the night phase. If the game is still alive next day phase (1 wolf-2 humans) remember that someone was brutal'd at my lynching and that Liggy has been lying this entire time and to lynch him. This is the ONLY sure way the humans can win. It's looking pretty good for the wolves right now.
You might be a wolf though.
True. And I guess you have no way of knowing that I'm not.
Like I said, review my conversation with Liggy on page 8. Do I really sound like a wolf?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on February 15, 2013, 07:42:14 PMTrue. And I guess you have no way of knowing that I'm not.
Like I said, review my conversation with Liggy on page 8. Do I really sound like a wolf?
It would help if there was a conversation on page 8.
Yes, it would.
Page 13. (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5357.180)
That is stupid and now I know why I haven't died yet. You kept me alive to try and fake claim my role so you could clear yourself. I'm on to your games.
But why would I do that when I wasn't even strongly suspected? That doesn't even make sense, Liggy.
Where are the other players? This is sort of really important.
23 minutes remaining
TheZeldaPianist275 went swimming into a poisonous swamp. He asked shadowkirby to come with him.
Wolves win
Post game up in a sec.