[3DS] Pokémon X & Pokémon Y - "Snowbelle City" by Kricketune54

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Submission Information:
Series: Pokémon
Game: Pokémon X & Pokémon Y
Console: Nintendo 3DS
Title: Snowbelle City
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Kricketune54

[Kricketune54]

[cashwarrior1]

I swear if legends Z-A doesn't find a way to shove this tune in the game...

heres a few little things i noticed

• m12 LH b2 sounds like B rather than F# to me
• m16 RH b5 I hear C and E here
• m27 RH b4-6 there's a harmony going C - B - C here

OH, also you should put slurs over the melody and on b1 of the LH for m5-11, 13-15, 17, 18 as well as in the arpeggios at the end

[Latios212]

OH, also you should put slurs over the melody and on b1 of the LH for m5-11, 13-15, 17, 18 as well as in the arpeggios at the end

I feel like this is up to personal preference; it's pretty apparent where the melody is and how it's phrased. I tend to omit them unless there's a specific way I want the melody to be articulated or to differentiate it from a countermelody. Totally valid though if you want!

Somewhat related, I think it'd be helpful to indicate pedal usage for parts of the piece. (I'll come back and check the rest of the sheet sometime soon!)

[Latios212]

Other feedback:
- The B on beat 2 of m. 4 is still there like in m. 2, but I understand if you want to omit it for simplicity
- The offbeat dyads in the second half of m. 7 could have A instead of B (Bm7 chord)
- m. 19 beat 4 RH: I think A first the harmony here more than B
- m. 23-24 - probably best to have the LH fill in the rest of the bar instead of having rests
- m. 23 beat 1 RH: to me, just sounds like C instead of CM7 (C instead of B on the bottom)
- When having rolled chords at the start of a bar especially when not at the start of a system (e.g. 23-24) I'd recommend adding some space to the beginning of the measure (like 0.05 in.) to pad it a bit so the wavy line isn't squished

m12 LH b2 sounds like B rather than F# to me

I think both are present

m16 RH b5 I hear C and E here

Which C and E? I currently hear it as Kricketune has it

m27 RH b4-6 there's a harmony going C - B - C here

I agree with this!

[cashwarrior1]

Which C and E? I currently hear it as Kricketune has it

In the RH, instead of A and C on b5, though its more that I hear the flute go up to the E then jump down to B rather than walk down.

[goldenscruff]

m8 b2 I hear a G in RH and b5 I hear a harpoid down the octave but the synth line is playing up an octave (of what is written). I think it is best to leave the RH in step wise motion.
To notate the harpoid, I would probably write the LH as thirds, and put it as an Octave in the RH with parenthesis on the bottom B, otherwise just notate the synth up the octave.

Which C and E? I currently hear it as Kricketune has it

In the RH, instead of A and C on b5, though its more that I hear the flute go up to the E then jump down to B rather than walk down.

I hear m16 b4 as solo B everything else as Kricketune has it. I hear an A fourth above the E m17 b1 RH as well.

- m. 23 beat 1 RH: to me, just sounds like C instead of CM7 (C instead of B on the bottom)

I hear CM7

m12 LH b2 sounds like B rather than F# to me

I also don't hear an F#, I hear a B, and an E (tied over b2 & b3)

m25 b2, b3 I hear a G# and A a third below RH. Are these notes missed or omitted for playability?

[Kricketune54]

Thank you all for the feedback!    Did not realize this was going to be so popular...

- The B on beat 2 of m. 4 is still there like in m. 2, but I understand if you want to omit it for simplicity

Yeah for simplicity and I think it's weird to omit it and then have it sort of reappear in the second half of its phrase.

- The offbeat dyads in the second half of m. 7 could have A instead of B (Bm7 chord)

Before reading this feedback, I made the change haha

- m. 19 beat 4 RH: I think A first the harmony here more than B

Yep agreed there! Fixed

- m. 23-24 - probably best to have the LH fill in the rest of the bar instead of having rests

Good point, fixed.

- m. 23 beat 1 RH: to me, just sounds like C instead of CM7 (C instead of B on the bottom)

I hear CM7

Okay yeah relistening, the Bn I have is definitely just leftover decay from the Bn in m22. Fixed

- When having rolled chords at the start of a bar especially when not at the start of a system (e.g. 23-24) I'd recommend adding some space to the beginning of the measure (like 0.05 in.) to pad it a bit so the wavy line isn't squished

Good point, I have added some extra space for those measures.

Somewhat related, I think it'd be helpful to indicate pedal usage for parts of the piece. (I'll come back and check the rest of the sheet sometime soon!)

Formerly had some pedal marks in this originally for m21-24, took them out before submitting, but it sounds like that was not the right choice. Have added them back.

• m12 LH b2 sounds like B rather than F# to me

Agree with Latios to hearing both, added the Bn though

• m27 RH b4-6 there's a harmony going C - B - C here

Added this harmony, think I missed this because those instruments were sort of being represented in the LH.

OH, also you should put slurs over the melody and on b1 of the LH for m5-11, 13-15, 17, 18 as well as in the arpeggios at the end

I feel like this is up to personal preference; it's pretty apparent where the melody is and how it's phrased. I tend to omit them unless there's a specific way I want the melody to be articulated or to differentiate it from a countermelody. Totally valid though if you want!

To both your points, I think I do like the idea of having slurs on the melody, so I have added them selectively. I don't feel they are necessary for the LH though.

In the RH, instead of A and C on b5, though its more that I hear the flute go up to the E then jump down to B rather than walk down.

I think I can pick up what you're hearing, but it doesn't sound like an actual played pitch to me, so I'm leaving as is.

m8 b2 I hear a G in RH and b5 I hear a harpoid down the octave but the synth line is playing up an octave (of what is written). I think it is best to leave the RH in step wise motion.

To notate the harpoid, I would probably write the LH as thirds, and put it as an Octave in the RH with parenthesis on the bottom B, otherwise just notate the synth up the octave.

Wow I've been mishearing that note for years haha, I tend to not agree with the octaves being mentioned though, as the Bn's are resolving down from the previous measure, and I hear the harpoid (LH layer 2) in the octave I have it currently.

I hear m16 b4 as solo B everything else as Kricketune has it.

Still hearing Dn and Bn, I think just the way the pitches are repeated between the two flutes it becomes a little harder to make out.

I hear an A fourth above the E m17 b1 RH as well.

I've excluded this An and the fall/gliss due to it being on top of the melody

I also don't hear an F#, I hear a B, and an E (tied over b2 & b3)

For the En, I chose to represent this pitch within the RH, I hear it start on beat 1, not 2.

m25 b2, b3 I hear a G# and A a third below RH. Are these notes missed or omitted for playability?

Relistening, I hear these pitches, I think I would prefer to exclude them because I think it makes the RH a bit too full, I was going for a bit of a balance between the LH being a bit more rounded out and having additional chord notes only on beats 1.0 and 2.0 in the RH. Open to majority opinion if others agree with goldenscruff on this though!


Thanks everyone! I've updated my files. I also made some spacing changes with the added slurs

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[Latios212]

Formerly had some pedal marks in this originally for m21-24, took them out before submitting, but it sounds like that was not the right choice. Have added them back.

Honestly I think the entire piece besides maybe m. 13-18 could benefit from pedal. Take this with a grain of salt because I personally like to overpedal everything, but I think this piece's style suits it and there are many places where you can't sustain notes as long as they could be. You could just write con/senza pedale in different parts.

One note, if you keep your current pedal/release marks, I think the release marks in m. 22/24 would be better moved towards the end of the measure.

I think everything else looks good!

[Kricketune54]

Okay! I ended up doing con/senza pedale at the parts you outlined.

[Latios212]

Looks good! I shall approve

[Bloop]

Looking good!

-m4: You could add the B in beat 2 in the R.H. (or in the L.H.): it sounds like it's also part of the high piano/glockenspiel like voice.
-m5: I think you can add the little countermelody in beat 4-6 too (F#-G-A, an octave higher than the original so it fits in between the B octaves)
-m16: If you leave out the R.H. A on beat 2.5 (the 16th note), it's possible for the R.H. to hold the D while playing the flute line.
-m17: As for the flute line, I think you can end it on the staccato F#-A dyad on beat 1, the attention will be drawn to the E once you can't hear the F#-A anymore.
-m25: I'm not 100% sure, but I think I don't hear the L.H. G (but an A instead), and hear a voice going A-G#-A in beat 1-3 which you could put in the R.H.

[Kricketune54]

-m4: You could add the B in beat 2 in the R.H. (or in the L.H.): it sounds like it's also part of the high piano/glockenspiel like voice.

I think this was already addressed

Other feedback:
- The B on beat 2 of m. 4 is still there like in m. 2, but I understand if you want to omit it for simplicity

-m5: I think you can add the little countermelody in beat 4-6 too (F#-G-A, an octave higher than the original so it fits in between the B octaves)

I hear this but I'm going to keep it out. The phrase continues into m6 but I don't see m6 this part working out so I think it would be weird to just have for m5

]-m16: If you leave out the R.H. A on beat 2.5 (the 16th note), it's possible for the R.H. to hold the D while playing the flute line.

Good point! removed the A

-m17: As for the flute line, I think you can end it on the staccato F#-A dyad on beat 1, the attention will be drawn to the E once you can't hear the F#-A anymore.

Would you mind attaching a screenshot for this? I'm not sure I understand how this would be done

-m25: I'm not 100% sure, but I think I don't hear the L.H. G (but an A instead), and hear a voice going A-G#-A in beat 1-3 which you could put in the R.H.

I'm still hearing this

Files updated except for what I've asked about/stated, thank you!

[Bloop]

Would you mind attaching a screenshot for this? I'm not sure I understand how this would be done

Like this:
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It nicely finishes up the flute line but still makes the E hearable

Everything else looks good tho!

[Kricketune54]

Thank you, eh not too big on that sitting on top of melody (fwiw i like the flute part and feel like that terminates fine as is)