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Re: Politics
« Reply #2235 on: March 09, 2018, 06:23:59 PM »

they're trying to implement a socialist regime
take away the guns
take away the video games
take away the mcdonalds
take away the internet
take away the individual

we've already got the absurdly high incarceration rate of just under 1% so what's a few more
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2236 on: March 09, 2018, 06:37:58 PM »

Don't forget porn. They're trying to ban that too.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2237 on: March 09, 2018, 06:54:45 PM »

They are 100% NOT trying to implement a socialist regime. The US has a government quite literally owned and run by capitalists, why would they be trying to install a system that would result in them losing wealth?

The passed budget bestowed an extra 150 BILLION dollars to our military and Trump basically came out in saying he wants to take guns away from US citizens. The Republican party is an open enemy of the 1st Amendment and the Democrats are fine with the Republicans doing their thing as long as those sweet donor dollars keep rolling in. They're cutting education to keep us ignorant, cutting medicare and medicaid to keep us distracted by illness, promoting fake news and misinformation, while denouncing actual news as fake news, to keep people in a tail spin where they can't tell truth from lies, reality from fiction.  Fuck McDonalds.

This is not socialism, this is plutocratic fascism.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2238 on: March 09, 2018, 07:05:59 PM »

wow facism and socialism have so much in common
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2239 on: March 09, 2018, 07:10:43 PM »

Either you're trolling or you have no idea what either of those words mean.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2240 on: March 09, 2018, 07:18:45 PM »

They are 100% NOT trying to implement a socialist regime. The US has a government quite literally owned and run by capitalists, why would they be trying to install a system that would result in them losing wealth?

The passed budget bestowed an extra 150 BILLION dollars to our military and Trump basically came out in saying he wants to take guns away from US citizens. The Republican party is an open enemy of the 1st Amendment and the Democrats are fine with the Republicans doing their thing as long as those sweet donor dollars keep rolling in. They're cutting education to keep us ignorant, cutting medicare and medicaid to keep us distracted by illness, promoting fake news and misinformation, while denouncing actual news as fake news, to keep people in a tail spin where they can't tell truth from lies, reality from fiction.  Fuck McDonalds.

This is not socialism, this is plutocratic fascism.
I'm pretty sure congressional Democrats are NOT OK with what Republicans are doing.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2241 on: March 09, 2018, 10:32:05 PM »

The Dem's opposition to the GOP is so ineffectual that it's almost a joke to call it an opposition. Even when they had the majority in the House, Senate, and had the White House they couldn't get anything done without it being completely undermined by the Republicans. Compare that to what the Republicans have accomplished since Trump's election.

The DNC hasn't been a liberal party since probably LBJ. Clinton was basically a Republican running under the DNC banner, because it gave him wild crossover appeal to voters and donors alike. And at this point, they have no real agenda or integrity aside from maintaining the status quo and looking progressive while stepping on as few corporate toes as possible. Of course you've got Bernie's camp who are actually on the left, but they make up a minority within the party and aren't without their own flaws.

And that's the DNC's catch-22, they can either adopt a more progressive, populist agenda like what Bernie presents and gain back some trust from their constituents, remain relevant, and probably get a bunch of votes along the way, but lose a whole lot of money in doing so. Or continue down their current, more profitable, path and die a slow, disappointing death.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2242 on: March 09, 2018, 10:41:44 PM »

thanks obama
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2243 on: March 09, 2018, 11:37:31 PM »

The Dem's opposition to the GOP is so ineffectual that it's almost a joke to call it an opposition. Even when they had the majority in the House, Senate, and had the White House they couldn't get anything done without it being completely undermined by the Republicans. Compare that to what the Republicans have accomplished since Trump's election.

The DNC hasn't been a liberal party since probably LBJ. Clinton was basically a Republican running under the DNC banner, because it gave him wild crossover appeal to voters and donors alike. And at this point, they have no real agenda or integrity aside from maintaining the status quo and looking progressive while stepping on as few corporate toes as possible. Of course you've got Bernie's camp who are actually on the left, but they make up a minority within the party and aren't without their own flaws.

And that's the DNC's catch-22, they can either adopt a more progressive, populist agenda like what Bernie presents and gain back some trust from their constituents, remain relevant, and probably get a bunch of votes along the way, but lose a whole lot of money in doing so. Or continue down their current, more profitable, path and die a slow, disappointing death.

I've honestly seen it more like in the initial Obama years, congressional democrats wanted to continue a centrist agreement with republicans and stay bipartisan, while the republicans focused on obstruction of any policies made by democrats.

Remember, the US still has a huge bias against socially left policies due to the cold war, so it's hard to propose policies like SPHC like western european countries without being called a communist. I mean, the Obama years were pretty center left, and yet a bunch of people called him a communist.

If they actually pushed for real progressive policies, there would be a lot of backlash and possibly some conflict.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2244 on: March 11, 2018, 04:34:47 AM »

When you actually go by Bernie's policies, they're wildly popular among the citizens.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/12/bernie-sanders-says-americans-back-his-agenda-and-hes-mostly-right/

The DNC leadership is ofc bought and paid for (and Hillary is the epitome of that).

SFK is 100% right. Mikey, you're confusing socialism w/ authoritarianism/totalitarianism.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2245 on: March 11, 2018, 06:25:40 AM »

Whoa PDS hi!
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2246 on: March 11, 2018, 08:13:49 PM »

Hi there.

Also lol @ Obama being remotely "left"

- Continuation (or at least ambivalence to) the War on Drugs (though to be fair he did free a lot of nonviolent drug offenders)
- Broke the record on deportations
- Despite having a supermajority in Congress, passed a watered down version of a public option and mandated everyone to buy insurance in the private sector (originally an idea proposed by Nixon & the Heritage Foundation)
- Guantanamo still open
- Despite promises to leave the mid-east, still involved in 7 countries military over the course of his administration
- Bailed out the banks
- Blatantly cracked down on reporters and whistleblowers

He was significantly better than those who came before him. The ACA was a step in the right direction but he had the power to go so much further and didn't.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2247 on: July 13, 2018, 11:38:19 PM »

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Re: Politics
« Reply #2248 on: July 14, 2018, 01:56:19 AM »

so what if god allows impeachment
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Re: Politics
« Reply #2249 on: July 14, 2018, 02:03:50 AM »

Socialism is always the first step towards communism because it gives the government so much power and is taking away our rights, and removing GOD from our nation and erasing history from schools. Praise the LORD for Donald Trump GOD put him there in his place and no one can take him out unless GOD allows it.

Our nation has freedom of/from religion, pushing any sort of belief on kids in our schools violates that. Would you want muslim beliefs pushed on you in a public school?
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