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Re: Unpopular Opinions!
« Reply #840 on: August 31, 2017, 06:45:54 PM »

Neo-Late-Romantic?

Meh. Too many hyphens.

I haven't listened to much classical in a while, should probably get back into it.
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« Reply #841 on: August 31, 2017, 08:28:16 PM »

ftfy

(no i'm kidding but in all seriousness why does Schumann do the same thing 8 times over again all the time)

Are you kidding Schubert is king of the repeat sign (also he revered Schumann and Beethoven so he's okay in my book)

Chopin didn't care for Beethoven and I don't trust people who say they don't love Beethoven
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Re: Unpopular Opinions!
« Reply #842 on: August 31, 2017, 08:37:19 PM »

I think it has more to do with that Chopin wasn't affected by what Beethoven did, he just did his own thing, rather than a dislike.
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« Reply #843 on: August 31, 2017, 09:16:58 PM »

There's several letters he's written where says he can't warm up to Beethoven's music and doesn't care for it in basically those exact terms, though he liked one of Beethoven's sonatas enough to assign it to students. In general I think a lot of it was that Beethoven was really intense as a composer and Chopin (and really a lot of people) was sort of terrified or freaked out by his music. I mean, tbh no sane person can listen to the late sonatas or string quartets in the context of the time they were published and consider them the works of a sane man.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions!
« Reply #844 on: August 31, 2017, 09:20:42 PM »

Of course, but that's a phase all truly new music goes through. I think did some interesting things with harmony and phrasing for piano music, but I agree people do place too much importance on him overall.
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« Reply #845 on: August 31, 2017, 09:34:56 PM »

I don't agree with that at all. Haha he and Bach are the most important imo, I was just saying Chopin's opinions on him
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Re: Unpopular Opinions!
« Reply #846 on: August 31, 2017, 10:54:25 PM »

C to Ab flat isn't all that dissonant, though.
Not dissonant, but distant. If anything, I wish he'd use more dissonance. I don't have an issue with using borrowed chords but I feel he overuses them for the same effect each time.
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« Reply #847 on: August 31, 2017, 11:59:42 PM »

Definitely with Maestro here; to quote the Garrick Ohlsson lecture that I'm sure we're both thinking of, "Chopin tipped his hat and then did his own thing". He also said that the late Beethoven string quartet in A minor was "greater than anything we (he and Schumann) will ever achieve".
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Re: Unpopular Opinions!
« Reply #848 on: September 01, 2017, 12:07:17 AM »

I like Nancy Faber, she does good stuff

With the music notes
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« Reply #849 on: September 01, 2017, 12:25:31 AM »

I laughed hard
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« Reply #850 on: September 01, 2017, 07:28:01 PM »

I like Nancy Faber, she does good stuff

With the music notes
Okay I know we're constantly at odds but this is my favorite thing on this thread
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Re: Unpopular Opinions!
« Reply #851 on: September 01, 2017, 08:15:25 PM »

I like Nancy Faber, she does good stuff

With the music notes

Piano Adventures! I took lessons that way for 6 years!
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« Reply #852 on: September 02, 2017, 06:31:23 AM »

Here's some Kirby music opinions a lot of people (at least YouTube commenters) disagree with me on:

02's theme is worse than a lot of other Kirby music (e.g. 02's theme < Dark Meta Knight's theme, 02's theme < Heart of Nova, 02's theme < Checker Knights, 02's theme < Squeak Boss theme, 02's theme < Moonstruck Blossom--those don't even make my Top 10 Kirby themes list):
It's probably because of my dislike of slow themes, but I keep thinking 02's theme is overrated. The melody is sooooo slow, and the accompaniment isn't interesting enough to compensate (unlike Sullied Grace). The attempts to subdivide the melody notes are amusing, but that's as far as it gets.

Marx's theme < Heart of Nova:
Think both themes are strange all you want, at least Heart of Nova is in a key for most to all of it (F minor). Perhaps Marx's theme is in C minor for the one part of it that sounds sorta like the Kirby Super Star boss theme, but that's definitely the minority of the piece, and it took me a long time for me to figure that out.

Moonstruck Blossom < The World to Win/Soul of Sectonia and Moonstruck Blossom < Sullied Grace:
I can see why Moonstruck Blossom is the most popularly arranged of Sectonia's boss themes (it's lyrical and easily massaged into jazz arrangements), but it's always been my least favourite. Sometimes The World to Win/Soul of Sectonia are my favourites, and sometimes I'm laughing too hard at their (appropriate in the case of The World to Win) use of the Hypernova theme. Sullied Grace took a while to grow on me, anyway, given its very slow melody on top of fast accompaniment, but I like its "And now for something completely different" instrumentation more than whatever Moonstruck Blossom has to offer. I suspect my dislike of slow themes still has something to do with my lack of love for Moonstruck Blossom, but I still see that I'm in the unpopular camp here.
Oh yeah, now I remember what else I don't like about Moonstruck Blossom. It's way too relaxing for a boss theme. I'm not supposed to be able to leave boss themes on as background music for dine-in restaurants.

Dark Crafter's theme < Claycia's theme:
Yeah yeah yeah, Dark Crafter's theme is way more popularly arranged (while I haven't found a SINGLE remix of Claycia's theme yet), likely because it's more lyrical...but it's also way too relaxing for a boss theme, let alone a final boss theme, and at least Claycia's theme is adequately stressful.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions!
« Reply #853 on: September 07, 2017, 05:32:09 AM »

I'm not really a fan of a lot of Grant Kirkhope's music. That's not to say that he isn't talented. I just don't like the playful tone he likes to use with his sudden somewhat-distant chord changes (like C - Ab - C) and his instrumentation. I do like his work in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, though. It's like how I'm not a fan of most Baroque composers yet it's still possible to appreciate the artistry there, and there are quite a few Baroque pieces that I like.

David Wise, though. I like him.
A little bit late, but my thoughts on those two (DK) composers exactly.
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« Reply #854 on: September 11, 2017, 02:32:30 AM »

I dunno, I think the word "unironically" is getting overused almost as much as the word "literally".
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