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Started by TheMarioPianist, October 04, 2015, 07:38:54 PM

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TheMarioPianist

Hey guys!

So, I'm arranging a medley of 3 Christmas songs for my steel drum band. They are Welcome Christmas (from the Grinch), Christmas Time is Here, and Hark the Herald Angels Sing. It's early for Christmas, I know. Bear with me. Anyway, since the songs go in that order, the time signature will go from 4/4->3/4->4/4. Anyone know how I would go about making these transitions? I can provide more info and the sheet if necessary.
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JDMEK5

Which version of finale are you using. The only kind of marking for a transition like that is just a time change. Just literally change the time sig whenever you feel like it.
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My Arrangements
Finale Version(s): Finale Notepad 2012, Finale 2012, Finale v26

TheMarioPianist

Quote from: JDMEK5 on October 05, 2015, 05:52:46 AMWhich version of finale are you using. The only kind of marking for a transition like that is just a time change. Just literally change the time sig whenever you feel like it.
I know how to do a time change, that's not the issue. And I have Finale 2014 so I can make the mark. I should have worded it more clearly. What I was asking about was like ideas on what to do with the music to facilitate the change from 4/4 to 3/4. Like, I have sheet music to transcribe from for each song, but the transitions in between are basically my own little additions. Kinda like I did with my Super Mario 64 medley. If you need to see any files or the songs themselves, I can post them here tonight if you need them for a better solution.
"I'm always here to help. Except when I'm not." ~Latios212

"If you're interested in 'balancing' work and pleasure, stop trying to balance them. Instead make your work more pleasurable." ~Donald J. Trump

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TheMarioPianist

Anyone got anything here? (If you need to see the song just ask.)
"I'm always here to help. Except when I'm not." ~Latios212

"If you're interested in 'balancing' work and pleasure, stop trying to balance them. Instead make your work more pleasurable." ~Donald J. Trump

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JDMEK5

So you're inquiring about a nice way to transition between the time sigs?

Quote from: TheMarioPianist on October 07, 2015, 07:13:13 PMAnyone got anything here? (If you need to see the song just ask.)
Yeah it might help if I see it in context.
"Today's goal strongly involves not dying. Because nobody likes to wake up dead."

My Arrangements
Finale Version(s): Finale Notepad 2012, Finale 2012, Finale v26

TheMarioPianist

Quote from: JDMEK5 on October 08, 2015, 08:11:54 AMSo you're inquiring about a nice way to transition between the time sigs?
Yeah it might help if I see it in context.

Ok, I figured that would probably be the case. In this file, I have the first song complete and the first few measures of the next one done. I have left a couple blank measures in between. Basically, I need to find a way to transition between them that supports the significant tempo change, time sig change, and key change. I'm not necessarily asking you to do it for me; I just need pointed in the right direction because I have no idea how to facilitate it at the moment.
"I'm always here to help. Except when I'm not." ~Latios212

"If you're interested in 'balancing' work and pleasure, stop trying to balance them. Instead make your work more pleasurable." ~Donald J. Trump

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Oronoco

Here's something that might help!

The tempo and mood changes will probably be more obvious to the audience than the time signature change. So, I would take some of the rhythmic movement from the first section (like the three eighth-note motif) and combine it with some rhythms from the second section.

That could end up sounding like this. (Although if you put more thought into it, yours would sound a lot better!)

My sample immediately changes to 3/4 after the second ending of the first section. The descending baseline helps with the key change.


I hope that gives you at least something to think about! It's incredibly cool that you're in a steel drum band.
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FireArrow

You don't really need to have a transition TBH. Just go straight into 3/4.
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