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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2020, 10:17:13 AM »

I cleaned up my concept logo, but personally I like the other more interesting logos

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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2020, 10:27:16 AM »

I really like this one! I think of all the logos submitted, this one could work really well for the tab icon that appears above the page, since it's so clean and probably easy to read even when shrunk down.

Actually not really, its not very readable when shrunk, and I only just realized. I need to do some tweaking for that

Edit: Heres the Updated version
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2020, 03:11:16 AM »

Alright, thanks KC Symphony and Advos for providing the updated art! I've updated the files in the Dropbox folder. And thanks to Maelstrom, mastersuperfan, Dudeman, and BlackDragonSlayer for your input too.



It looks like for the banner, we want to have some sort of rotation or configuration system because we have great options and it's not something we need to keep the same all the time. I'll check with our code monkeys on what we can do about that so stay tuned and hopefully we'll have something to show within a couple weeks! (Those of you who submitted something, will let you know if there's a problem with the image sizing/cropping/etc.)



On the other hand, generally the usage of a logo is something that doesn't change. The main places I am thinking of for logo use are:
- Favicon (for your browser tab) - this will need to be an extremely scaled-down image
- Social media accounts - Discord server logo, Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter profile pictures, maybe something else I'm forgetting
- T-shirts! Maybe! Will need to work out some more logistics before that becomes a reality :P

Sorry for not making this distinction clear earlier, as that changes some details about its usage. Something clearer when small will make more sense for the favicon, medium for a small profile pic, and potentially a large one for a shirt.

Thing is, though, these don't all have to be the same logo, even though they can be! (Our current favicon isn't pulled from our banner like the rest of our profile images are.) I think we do need to decide what logo will be used for which use case - they can be the same or not. So, for those of you who submitted a logo - could you say what case(s) you'd like your logo to be considered for? If possible, a shrunken file would be nice for a favicon so we can see what it'd potentially look like.

And, of course, everyone else please let me know if what I'm saying is making any sense :)
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2020, 08:31:30 AM »

Here's a little board I threw together to show how the logo could be used! The current banner has the logo right on top of it, so instead of trying to crop out the logo and replace it with mine awkwardly, I just swapped in one of my banners. I tried experimenting with removing the text as well, but of course any suggestions for changes could be implemented easily so let me know your thoughts!
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Yeah I like this one a lot, it stands out just enough when its small (and looks like a good logo based on what I remember from my design classes lol)
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2020, 04:42:35 PM »

Alright, having gone through all of them here are my thoughts, which are all contingent on there artwork being properly scaled for the multiple formats we'd need them to be:

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Logo: I like the idea of the design, but I can't immediately tell what it is at a glance. On the surface it just looks like a keyboard and doesn't scan as "NSM". If someone like me can't tell what it says right away, newer or even frequent guests might not be able to either.
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Banner: I like this one, it has a warm feel to it and the potential for variation using different characters and music as the background. That said it's a little busy and the site name is scrunched into the top right corner when it really should be the primary feature.
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Banner 1: This one is fun, possibly a good choice for a night-mode banner, but the lack of the site name really hinders its effectiveness. It's difficult to imagine having the name without sacrificing the overall cohesion of the piece. I do like all of the details, however, but given the scale needs to be variable, I'm not sure how visible or clear they'll be on some screens.

Banners 2-5: This one is much more on brand with the piano front and center, which makes up for the lack of site name. The alternate backgrounds would be nice to cycle through, and I especially like the Super Mario inspired one, but that may be my personal bias.

Banner 6: This one is cute, but unless you know what the site is you'd have no idea what the characters are doing or looking at. Sure you have conductor Kirby off the the side and some music notes around, but they seem incidental and if you're looking at this with no knowledge of what NSM is then you're likely not going to figure it out based on the banner alone.

Logo 1-3: This are super neat, and I appreciate the variations so would could play with them to see which pop better on different backgrounds, or perhaps that's to recreate the flashing effect. The throwback to the NES era with the Super Mario Bros inspired font is a great touch and the folder icon seems like it can be utilized for a number of things. That said the way its organized seems a little bulky, perhaps we could separate the elements for different uses.
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Sir Bone
Banner 1: This one is hard to look at because the colors seem haphazard and just garish.

Banner 2: Now this one is cool. I like the minimalist/post-modern design of the characters, is makes the banner pop more and you could spend a minute or two just looking at it to figure out who's represented there. Personally I'd like to see a version of it without the site name to see the details behind it, but as it is this is probably may favorite of the submissions.

Logo: This logo is alright, but it doesn't have any personality. It just feels so bland, especially compared to your banner art.
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With the above commentary, I think I'd prefer Sir Bone's second banner with KC Symphony's Logos together. To my eye they flow well together with a little editing to match the fonts and other details. That said we can always trial them and let the public vote on them each.
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2020, 07:05:58 PM »

Really good stuff everyone, I especially like the night sky design :)

Just a brief note on colours: That bright red of KC's logo on the website's dark blue is pretty spicy. In general it's probably good to stick a little closer to the site's palette with the logo.

Also, a vote sounds exiting, let's do it!
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2020, 07:32:02 AM »

Can do! Here are the updated colors! The first one is the color of the text on NinSheetMusic's homepage, the second one is the exact color of Nintendo's logo, and the third is the original. I've laid them out on the board below, and I'm including the full PNG's below as well.
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Yeah I prefer the 2nd logo. Might as well use Nintendo's exact colours lol. The first is too saturated, and the last looks too dull
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2020, 01:58:05 AM »

Thanks for providing updated artwork! I've updated the Dropbox with the new files and updated the OP with what's being considered for what. I think I have it all straight, though not sure if SirBone is going to try downsizing for a favicon.

Dropbox folder with files
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wos6a98tgglutyf/AAAdRFtf54wx8hr-ETROQj2sa?dl=0

Banners for consideration
- fi_le
- KC Symphony (multiple)
- SirBone
- The existing one

Logos under consideration as a favicon
- KC Symphony
- The existing one

Logos under consideration as a profile pic
- Advos
- KC Symphony
- Sir Bone
- The existing one (from the banner)

Logos under consideration as a t-shirt design
- Advos
- KC Symphony
- Sir Bone
- The existing favicon

Currently still thinking that we'll have a rotating selection of banners, and we'll kick off voting for the logo in the next week or so.

Lemme know if there are any concerns!
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2020, 08:48:27 PM »

Just popping in to mention that NSM does not always mean ninsheetmusic. It is more commonly used to refer to the national Socialist Movement, which, according to wikipedia, is a "neo-Nazi organization" and is classified as a hate group which I'm pretty sure we don't want to be associated with. The current logo and the current site don't use the acronym NSM at all. I realize that NSM is a heck of a lot easier to fit in a logo, but it should be unquestionably not related to that organization.

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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2020, 12:01:47 AM »

Ah yes you're very right... that had slipped my mind.

Advos and SirBone, do you think you may be able to make adjustments to the logo as such? Apologies for not remembering this earlier?
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2020, 07:13:26 AM »

Just popping in to mention that NSM does not always mean ninsheetmusic. It is more commonly used to refer to the national Socialist Movement, which, according to wikipedia, is a "neo-Nazi organization" and is classified as a hate group which I'm pretty sure we don't want to be associated with. The current logo and the current site don't use the acronym NSM at all. I realize that NSM is a heck of a lot easier to fit in a logo, but it should be unquestionably not related to that organization.
I mean, given the musical imagery in the logos, I doubt it'll be a problem. In all the situations the logos would be used, I'd imagine it would be pretty easy to tell what it means from the context. Worth noting is that the current favicon uses "NSM" and a piano.
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2020, 01:14:01 AM »

That's also very fair. I don't think it's likely to be mistaken.

How would we feel if we simply tacked on "NinSheetMusic" under a NSM logo? I don't think anyone would bat an eye on that, but curious to see what others think.
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2020, 08:10:40 AM »

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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2020, 11:56:05 PM »

Alright, I getcha. If just a couple of people right now are uncomfortable as is then it's probably best to steer clear if possible.

Thanks KC Symphony for the updated logos! That leaves Advos and SirBone's. I'll talk to SirBone to see if we can adjust it so that it doesn't say NSM.

For Advos's logo, how would we feel about keeping that in the running? It's not the most apparent that it does actually say NSM, and the look of it strongly implies that the logo is getting at something else.
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Re: Call for potential new site art!
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2020, 10:08:48 PM »

I remade my logo:
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