Politics

[SlowPokemon]

^agree with everything, except for two parts:

1. Peaceful protest is perfectly okay and legitimate and is what our country is all about. It's only the rioting and violence that's awful.
2. Flag burning is an absolutely acceptable form of protest and self-expression.

But your part about tumblr is pretty accurate. There are decent people there but mostly it's just kids wanting attention--that's fine, but not always to be taken seriously.

[FireArrow]

Yeah, peaceful protest =/= hate crimes done in the name of the president.

[mikey]

flag burning means you hate america right?  So why are you still here, please leave if it's so bad
that's my logic anyway

[Dudeman]

flag burning means you hate america right?

...isn't that no different than any other act of protest happening right now? Plenty of people are saying they hate America right now in a variety of ways; burning a flag or two isn't any more extreme. If anything, I'd say burning an effigy sends a much stronger message, and I know that's happening.

[mikey]

burning an effigy means you hate the person you just burned.
maybe I'm just thinking too nationalistically cause it seems very disrespectful in the extreme

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

Flags are symbols of what your country stands for; to me, flag burning as a result of this election is trying to communicate that what our country just did is NOT in alignment with your values.

Sure, it's a bit extreme.

It's not like anyone tried to protest similar things by just taking a knee at a football game, did they?

You know what else is extreme? Having a president endorsed by the KKK, who's going on trial for fraud and has inspired the worst niches of America to be public.

[Dude]

The flag burning thing is more of a (dis)respect thing iirc

[KefkaticFanatic]

The analytical view: the burning of the American flag is the protest's way to exclaim in the most direct and explicit way possible their feeling of total disconnect in the direction the nation is degressing towards, and what the USA was meant to stand for as a nation.  It is a declaration that a nation under the rule of an icon of bigotry is no longer America.

The realistic view: mob mentality

[blueflower999]

Having a president endorsed by the KKK

Hillary Clinton was literally mentored by a Klansman. Trump has zero control over who endorses him.

[mikey]

BLUE
PLEASE STAY

[KefkaticFanatic]

See, this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Dodging the problem at hand and throwing out meaningless connections like that makes you no less guilty than the ones calling for lynchings.  If you think that kind of hatred isn't acceptable, then you should call out anyone and everyone, regardless of their affiliation.

[Sebastian]

See, this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Dodging the problem at hand and throwing out meaningless connections like that makes you no less guilty than the ones calling for lynchings.

Uh, no. Blueflower literally responded to PDS' post which isn't "dodging" in any way.
Refusing to see that Hillary has the same issue doesn't mean she doesn't have it. I don't think that that is a "meaningless connection."

If you think that kind of hatred isn't acceptable, then you should call out anyone and everyone, regardless of their affiliation.

Once again, you can't control whom you're endorsed by. Being endorsed by the KKK doesn't constitute "hate" on Trump's part.

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[Olimar12345]

Lol, the ol' "I can't be a ____ist, I have a ___ friend!"

[mikey]

Lol, the ol' "I can't be a ____ist, I have a ___ friend!"

I can't be a humanist, I have a human friend!

[Sebastian]

Lol, the ol' "I can't be a ____ist, I have a ___ friend!"

I don't know about Trump, but personally I wouldn't want ____ friends if I was a _____ist.