TWG LVIII - The Boy's Forest of Tears

[Liggy]

But, that IS his playing style.

[vermilionvermin]

Bird, can you just say who we lynch now?  The phase ends at 2 PM EST  tomorrow I think, which doesn't give a whole lot of time for an insta/people to vote.

[fank009]

maestro
Lets get some conversation going

[K-NiGhT]

Such as, why maestro?

safety on slow

[vermilionvermin]

safety on davy.  If Bird hasn't posted who it is by midnight eastern tonight I'll just post who I think it is and why.

[MaestroUGC]

Safety on verm.

[fank009]

Mainly for the trollng n1, not a lot, but all we have really

[Liggy]

Don't care if Maestro safetied, this is a real vote for now:

Verm is being a bit too passive.  He asks Bird who we should vote for, and then when other people start voting, he follows suit.  He also said he had an idea of who Bird might think is a wolf, but instead of acting on it, he safeties instead.  This really isn't productive behavior, and it's really invoking a feeling that he doesn't want to call out anyone he doesn't "have" to, which is much more of a behavior of a wolf than a human.  A human would want to call out everyone they find suspicious.  A wolf would be more hesitant in the hopes that they can just bandwagon some other vote.

[vermilionvermin]

Pretty weak, Liggy.  If I know who bird wants to lynch, it's for good reason.  Not wanting to spill the beans before he wants me to isn't wolfy.

[SlowPokemon]

Don't care if Maestro safetied, this is a real vote for now:

Verm is being a bit too passive.  He asks Bird who we should vote for, and then when other people start voting, he follows suit.  He also said he had an idea of who Bird might think is a wolf, but instead of acting on it, he safeties instead.  This really isn't productive behavior, and it's really invoking a feeling that he doesn't want to call out anyone he doesn't "have" to, which is much more of a behavior of a wolf than a human.  A human would want to call out everyone they find suspicious.  A wolf would be more hesitant in the hopes that they can just bandwagon some other vote.

I don't really agree with you. You seem like the type that likes red onions on salad, too.

Liggy

[K-NiGhT]

Yeah...I fail to see why waiting until Bird gives his idea to vote is a bad thing if he isn't certain.

Liggy

[Liggy]

I don't really agree with you. You seem like the type that likes red onions on salad, too.

...what?

I'm voting for Verm because he's passively waiting for a lynch.  I can understand not voting for a person if he's not completely suspicious, but he didn't even through out a name.

[vermilionvermin]

I'll post this in case Liggy has a defense:

I trust you enough to understand that killing me would be a stupid idea!

I claimed human to Fawful and was really adamant about it, for various reasons.  It's important for me to keep the downlow, you see.

I'm a Loner.  But don't worry, it's not overriding!  It's brown, which I guess is probably significant, because I have some neat box based powers.  I'd rather NOT disclose them all right now, because if there's anything I learned from GoT it's that NSM has a lonerphobia.

This is a PM I got from Liggy after my claim.  I kept quiet about it since there wasn't much I could do about him being a Loner Night 1 and figured he'd be less likely to act against the humans, but I talked to bird about it.  The win conditions are super specific in my role PM and in the first post of the game that in order to win we need to kill all non-humans.  A loner is a non-human.

Liggy also may have a killing power since a wolf died Night 1!

[fank009]

I'll post this in case Liggy has a defense:

This is a PM I got from Liggy after my claim.  I kept quiet about it since there wasn't much I could do about him being a Loner Night 1 and figured he'd be less likely to act against the humans, but I talked to bird about it.  The win conditions are super specific in my role PM and in the first post of the game that in order to win we need to kill all non-humans.  A loner is a non-human.

Liggy also may have a killing power since a wolf died Night 1!

I'll post this in case Liggy has a defense:

This is a PM I got from Liggy after my claim.  I kept quiet about it since there wasn't much I could do about him being a Loner Night 1 and figured he'd be less likely to act against the humans, but I talked to bird about it.  The win conditions are super specific in my role PM and in the first post of the game that in order to win we need to kill all non-humans.  A loner is a non-human.

Liggy also may have a killing power since a wolf died Night 1!

Hold It....
Before we do anything, i was most recently involved in a game, as a 3rd party, and was lynched for the exact same reason of it being against the win conditions of humans. (Granted my goal was to be lynched, but thats not the point). In some ways, i believe liggys claim, in his win condition being non overriding. There is no reason to lynch him yet, other than that it "goes against our win condition."  I feel that it won't matter if we keep him alive (for now). If there is no better lynch than so be it.

[vermilionvermin]

We know that two people died last night, one of which was a wolf.  It's possible there's a vigi, but I think it's also likely that there is a third party killer.  We know he needs to die at some point.