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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 25, 2023, 05:42:46 AM »
honestly, I’d prefer to vote xiao or THC, but besides the fact that that wouldn’t get us anywhere, I’d rather not cause a KitB…


although I feel bad for math…
I'm curious as to why you are suspicious enough of me to want to vote me.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 25, 2023, 05:16:44 AM »
And while BDS chose to not go until detail about the exchange, I have no issue providing context since I have nothing to hide. I told him that if he was an assassin and I was his ward, I would try and help him win. If we're being honest, there's nothing I really could have done to actually help him win and he didn't take the bait. I have no regrets.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 25, 2023, 05:13:46 AM »
THC has described himself as an "an agent of chaos" so I don't know what to think about that.
You say that like it hasn't been how I play TWG since I started. Remember TWG C? Ah, memories. Everyone thinks Xiao's a wild card, but I'm the real wild card.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 25, 2023, 05:10:27 AM »
Now I feel like you're being borderline offensive considering I have made 26 posts to Specs 16 lol
Quantity does not equal quality. You only started providing actual notable discussion after my post. I really don't understand why this only makes sense to me. If we both survive the night, I'm starting to see you as my lynch candidate for tomorrow. I wasn't even really sus on you before, you've just been digging yourself into a hole, now I am sus of you.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 09:54:57 PM »
That was my feeling too, and because I was just called neutral and Specs was called townie. I wonder if Specs could be THC's ward and he's paid extra attention to trying to make him look positive to the topic.

Alternatively maybe I'm his ward and he's just wanted me to appear vague as to not be a wolfing target. It could also just be genuine and maybe I'm being held to a higher standard as I was more active last game lol
None of the above. I truly believe Specs has provided a good amount of valuable activity this game and I believe you haven't. Even upon rereading your posts, my stance on that has remained the same.

However, since I am now going to bed, I'm going to cast my vote since I likely won't be able to before phase change.

As much as I really don't trust Xiao, I'm too worried about mislynching them for playing the same way they always do (for now, at least), so I'm going to cast my vote on my second highest suspicion.

I vote for math.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 08:48:37 PM »
Dang, that hurts  ;D
Ah, I didn't mean it that way. I was writing my post and knew I was forgetting someone, so I had to look back to see who. If it makes you feel any better, I was expecting to not remember who half the players were. I constantly have to double-check things.

That does feel a bit unfair toward Toby. I agree with him there.
I disagree. If I had reread everyone's posts except for Toby, then that would be very unfair to him. But that wasn't the case, I only reread Specs' posts. If anything, that's unfair to everyone except Specs. Besides, he brought up stuff he had said before in order to refute my point, to which I immediately refuted back since I personally don't believe it actually went against my point.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 05:14:06 PM »
did you look back on anyone else's posts?
No. Like I said, I remembered the gists of everyone else's posts.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 04:08:44 PM »
From that I think it's obvious you didn't look back at my posts specifically, but you did look back at Specs, is that right?

I'm wondering what to make of that and if I should make anything of it but I'll let you answer first I guess
That is correct. The reason I looked back at Specs' posts and not yours is because I had forgotten Specs was a player in the game, as I said in my thoughts post. I fully remembered you were in the game and already had planned on you being one of the first people I talked about in my list.

I've at least notably said I was a bit disinterested going for either of the plans that were discussed heavily by Davy and BDS earlier, and I've also explicitly said I was probably going to vote one of the inactive only today, either yourself, math or poet. So there is some content there that I would call something
I disagree about either of those being notable content. Being against proposed plans without actually proposing another option is only marginally better than not saying anything about said plans and voting inactives is such a default that it really has no bearing on much of anything. Plus, I feel that voting inactives on the first phase is a bad move. If they continue to be inactive after a second phase, then yes voting them would be ok (under the assumption no better candidates are found), but when phase one hasn't even passed yet, that's too early to assume they'll stay inactive. Just look at me, I was inactive for nearly 48 hours, but only because of work/sleep and just not having been on the forum until BDS told me the game started.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 01:38:26 PM »
Alrighty, here's my general thoughts on everyone.

Xiao: Right now you're at the top of my suspicion list. The only issue with that is the reasoning behind it is also just the way you play every game. But since I don't feel that strongly about anyone else in particular, you are still my current top pick.

davy: I'm very neutral on you right now. BDS seems very convinced you're an assassin from what I skimmed, but I could see it going either way. The way I'll put it is that I likely won't vote for you, but I won't be upset if you get lynched either.

Toby: The fact I can't remember anything about your posts says a lot. I can remember the gists of pretty much everyone else's posts, but not a single thing about any of yours. That tells me that they probably weren't adding a whole lot to the discussion because they likely would have stood out more to me if they did. That being said, I don't find that to be enough to fully suspect you because if I did, then like half the players would also be suspect as assassins.

A#: I'd like to say I could tell you're trying really hard to give input, buuuuut you were really awesome at giving input in the last two games and deducting things. The lack of either of those thus far is a bit of a red flag to me. You may still be new, but you showed some great talent in the last two games. It's still early, though, so I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt for nowI.

Poet: I honestly can't really read you. You're not only new to TWG, but also new to the forum. As of right now, I have no basis for either your personality or playstyle. I would like to hear some more input from you.

math: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've only made three or four posts so far, right? And one of them was to vote and another was just to agree with someone else's rationale. I think you might be at number two for me right now. I've got my eye on you.

BDS: I'm fairly confident you're town. All the things you've said thus far scream town!BDS to me, plus your response to my DMs just cemented it even more.

TZP: I'm 99% sure you're town. I won't disclose why publicly yet, but I feel it's safe to put you in my town drawer to gather dust.

Specs: ...I forgot about you. On the bright side, going back through your posts, I'm getting a slight town read from you. You seem to actively be trying to not only figure out the best plan for town and actively discuss about other proposed plans, but also get other players to be more active and get their thoughts on the discussion.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 12:38:39 PM »
Sorry about that I usually employ that as a signal so players can easily pick out host communication on normal forums, but I concur that the legibility on the default theme...isn't great. Hopefully this one fares better.

Yes, that is much better. Thank you!

As for the game, I just got off work. I will make a full suspicions post once I get home.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 09:13:59 AM »
Can I gather from that that you intend to vote Xiao as things stand?
That is correct. I do plan on voting before phase change, I would just prefer to wait for more to happen before I make a decision.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 12:06:22 AM »
That being said, I want to avoid lending to an insta or a kitb this early on, so I will not yet be voting. I don't feel that strongly about anyone without any votes on them currently, and anyone else would either widen the current kitb or make it easier for someone to cause an insta. I am suspicious of Xiao right now for voting so quickly and then quickly changing their vote without much persuasion. I won't speak to the general lack of explanation since that seems to be normal for them.

Also, now that I know the game has started, I should be more active. Sorry for being absent.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 24, 2023, 12:00:40 AM »
To sum up the discussions for new players:

1) Should the hot targets claim? The pro of claiming is that it removes them as an accidental lynch option, the con is that it opens them up to potential assassin attack. Consensus right now seems to be that hot targets shouldn't claim.

2) Should someone who got a normal human PM defend himself if placed on the chopping block? Pro of self-defense is that, if successful, it might redirect the lynch to an assassin, the con is that lynching one of these humans could very well be beneficial for the humans (if it's a ward), or at least not badly harmful (if it's a regular townie).

Feel free to add if I missed anything.
1. I honestly think claiming hot target isn't a good idea. Cause regardless of if someone is in the corner or not, a wolf would (at this point now that it's out there) fully be able to claim it at any point. That's why I don't think TZP is fully clear like (I think it was) Davy said. I could absolutely see assassin!TZP claiming hot target now to seem less suspicious.

2. I don't even understand why this is an argument. I am 100% with BDS on this one. The "benefits" of no defending do not outway the negatives. Both a regular town kill and a cold target kill would negatively impact town, even if not as badly as a hot target kill. Both decrease the pool for either one or both assassins, so they have an easier time finding their other targets.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 23, 2023, 11:52:00 PM »
VOTECOUNT 0.1

BlackDragonSlayer – (0/6) – XiaoMigros
davy – (1/6) – XiaoMigros
SpecsFlyer17 – (1/6) – threalmathguy

I may have accidentally PM'd this votecount to someone apologies if so!
Firstly, can we please not do the rainbow? I can't really read the text.

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The Werewolf Game / Re: TWG CXVI: Assassin's Gambit (Game Thread)
« on: September 23, 2023, 11:49:16 PM »
Jesus christ, I missed a ton. I didn't go on NSM yesterday, and I've slept all day today after work. I have a few things I want to respond to, but I'm on mobile, so I'll be doing it in separate posts.

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