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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 14, 2019, 08:31:15 PM »
I'm not sure what question you think I'm avoiding.

As for biblical values, the Bible explicitly states that homosexuality is wrong (I could reference passages). I'm not sure what those other Christians you're talking about are saying. Christians and everyone respond to those passages differently (some think they should be free to practice it, some think they shouldn't etc) which is fine, but that doesn't change the fact that the Bible states it as wrong. I don't care what their preacher or my preacher says. I care about what the Bible says, and I understand that not everyone agrees with that, which is fine.

I personally believe that the Bible is the only source of absolute truth, not the conservative view. That's what I'm saying. And for the second time I'm not always saying the conservative side is correct. It's wrong sometimes.
That's all I'm saying.

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 14, 2019, 03:30:45 PM »
Whewww. I missed a lot.

First of all, Splatoon, I wouldn't necessarily says that liberals hate Christians. That's kind of a foolish claim.

God's omnipotent, not controlling.  If he was, we wouldn't be able to choose, then at that point wouldn't it just be God saying who gets to go to heaven or not?  Seems like a broken system :p
Yes and no. It's a balance between God's sovereignty and human choosing, which is obviously beyond our comprehension. I have this discussion with friends of mine all the time. :P
Put simply, we don't understand everything, which is good. If we could understand everything about God, then we wouldn't need him. That's how I'd resolve that. I don't think it's a smart thing to say, "Seems like a broken system" if you believe in God, cause he's clearly infinitely powerful and can definitely understand things beyond our comprehension.

Not to get too much into religion, but I agree with this. I think God gives humans the free will to decide their own fate, even if that leads to problems. I'm not really a fan of people who turn to inaction because they believe that God is going to run their life for them.
I partly agree with this. Yes, I don't agree with people that totally turn to inaction, as you said.

I'd be interested to see which policies of Trump's you think are good, specifically as it pertains to biblical values.
Obviously, Trump isn't perfect. In fact, he has quite a few problems. As I have stated in the past, I saw Hillary as the greater of two evils. One example of a biblical view I do agree on with him is the aspect of abortion. I could never vote for someone who is in favor of abortion no matter how rotten the other candidate is. It's my personal conviction not to break on issues like that.
Also, PDS, randomly regurgitating Bible verses isn't helpful. With all due respect, you don't have a great track record with keeping Bible verses in context. If you'd like to discuss that in the appropriate topic, I'd be happy to.

Christian values aren't immune to scrutiny intrinsically and pretending otherwise would be intellectually dishonest because they aren't homogeneous. What makes your interpretation of christian values better than Obama's, Alexandria Cortez's, Hillary Clinton's?
There is a difference between conservative/Christian values and biblical values. There are many people that use Christian values as a fascade for guarding all their personal ideas when in fact many of their ideas aren't biblical. So whoever is saying that christian values and biblical values are the same I'd heavily disagree with.

As for Obama, Hillary, etc. (Which could be examples of the point I just made)
They are clearly not holding to biblical values if they're supporting abortion, homosexuality, etc.
So, yes, they may claim to have some christian views, but they clearly aren't biblical if they're referring to that.
Also, there are several ways in which Trump isn't holding to biblical values either, so back to what I said earlier-- lesser of two evils in my opinion.

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 14, 2019, 03:43:44 AM »
You two appear to apply conservative values to almost everything, seeing any liberal solution as immediately wrong, hence "extreme."
There have been conservative views I've disagreed with and liberal views I've agreed with. I don't apply conservative values to everything, but rather I do apply Biblical values to everything, which do sometimes differ with conservative views. For example, I do believe that some conservatives are a bit ugly/unkind at times (I used to be one of them back before I grew up). They like to be all "I'm gonna be a patriot" or "I'm gonna start a revolution if these dems don't shape up" or "I'm gonna drive this point into the ground no matter what."  I believe that those types of conservative ideas aren't Biblical ideas, so I guess you could say that that is one example of a differing view that I have.   

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 13, 2019, 10:44:28 PM »
List of liberal sites it labels as very biased. The problem is your standard of "Christians" and "Conservatives" is yourself. Your opinions are more extreme than most Republicans and Christians. Of course its going to seem like bias checkers discriminate against you when you're on an extreme political end (right or left) and you see it as a moderate or average position. Trust me, I know plenty of people on the far left who throw hands up whenever they get fact checked because how dare you suggest their unprofessional echo chambers be anything but true - be better than them!
Well, I wouldn't say I'm an extreme conservative, but I do get what you're saying. 

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 13, 2019, 09:52:22 PM »
Perhaps, but I'm sure they feel the same way about liberal sources. My point is that everyone is biased. It's impossible not to be.

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 13, 2019, 09:42:17 PM »
Ok, guys. Let's just try to relax. Yes, everyone has differing viewpoints and sources, but it is important to keep our statements kosher.

@Splatooninkling: Please avoid personal attacks/insults especially if you don't agree with them.

As for the sources, I understand inkling's hesitancy against them. It's practically impossible to not have bias in some form, even for the media bias fact checking website. I find it odd that a large amount of the conservative news sources are labeled as "extremely bias, propaganda, fake news" by the media bias fact checking website, yet a very small amount of liberal sites are labeled extreme. It seems to me that that website it biased toward liberalism, which makes me question it's opinion on the sources it's fact checking. Also, any Christian/religious source that I found on there was labeled as "extremely biased" or "propaganda." Mediabiasfactcheck is clearly discriminating against Christians and other religious groups, which makes me wrinkle my brow about what they say about news sources.


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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 12, 2019, 03:52:16 PM »
Even though I agree with the quote you shared, I don't think some people take Trump very seriously.

Anyway, Playful, I do see where you're coming from. Unfortunately, I don't really know enough on the specific topic to comment further. I do know, however, that there are a lot of lies and dishonesty out there, whether that be social media, news broadcasts, articles, etc. This is why I don't really ever get into politics, but rather focus on other truth.

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 12, 2019, 04:17:07 AM »
I mean, I understand that we're a country open to everyone no matter their backgrounds, beliefs, appearance, etc. but under the law.

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Site News / Re: NinSheetMusic's 15th Birthday! (+ New Layout)
« on: April 12, 2019, 01:34:34 AM »
I miss the sidebar! It was so accessible!
If you click on quick browse, you'll see the whole list there. Also, console and arranger is an option.

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 11, 2019, 11:39:51 PM »
Exactly. Shutting down the border won't stop the demand, so that path is massively inefficient. It's just a scapegoat to villinafy immigrants that happen to have a different skin pigment.
I'm not really sure where you are getting this idea. A lot of people like to call people racist when they make decisions they don't like. I honestly thought we've come beyond that sort of petty behavior.

If the issue is illegal immigration, then the target should be overstayed visas.
If the issue is drug trafficking, then the target should be the demand of drugs within the US.

Neither issue will be fixed by closing down borders / building a wall. The only people affected by that is the legitimate, legal asylum seekers from countries which are unsuitable for their safety who are caught in the crossfires.
Overstayed visas and drugs in the U.S may be problems, but so is border security. Protecting the southern border with a wall is only a logical measure to be taken if there are illegal immigrants coming into the country illegally. The building of a wall is not a scandalous order under those circumstances. Whether they're "legitimate, legal asylum seekers," or anyone else trying to get into the United States, entering the United States illegally is uncalled for.

Also, whatever happens in Mexico comes in second to what happens in the U.S because we (U.S leaders, law enforcement, etc.) have a duty to take care of our citizens first before anyone else. It's not because we don't like Mexicans, but because we have an obligation to the citizens of the U.S first (to protect them, etc.).

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Site News / Re: NinSheetMusic's 15th Birthday! (+ New Layout)
« on: April 11, 2019, 02:39:31 PM »
Awesome work! Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the site, Deku. : )

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Oh dude...this song looks great!

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Off-Topic / Re: Made mah day.
« on: April 04, 2019, 10:28:54 PM »
When you meet me in person :)
Hopefully soon!

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Off-Topic / Re: Politics
« on: April 02, 2019, 11:18:25 PM »
Typically, yes, I'd agree with you, but if the history of political discussion on NSM has anything to say, it would say that a lot of poo-throwing eventually ensues after political discussion is started. Unfortunately, not everyone acts like an adult when discussing controversial topics. Also, a lot of political discussion that I've seen on here has the goal of changing others' minds. That's why I said what I did.

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