Super Smash Bros Fisticuffs for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS

[FierceDeity]

what a nub

Mario continues to be my favorite character to do grab combos with
Just because it's so difficult to mess up, so the other player doesn't even get the solace of "Oh wow this player's really good at timing", more just "HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU SPAM UP TILT FUCK"

[K-NiGhT]

spamming up tilt seems to be a whole metagame because so many characters have that option ;P Mario, Luigi, Lucario, Sheik, etc xD

[mikey]

it seems dudeman is physically unable to play any character other than rob, who has a broken projectile block

[FireArrow]

NoS... what?
Also what the hells is this nesslock? Spamming PK-Fire? (smash DI exists yo.)

[FierceDeity]

spamming up tilt seems to be a whole metagame because so many characters have that option ;P Mario, Luigi, Lucario, Sheik, etc xD

Lol yep. Disabling up jump is basically the best thing you can do for yourself

it seems dudeman is physically unable to play any character other than rob, who has a broken projectile block

Tbh the window on his projectile block isn't all that big. You have to time it right, and even if you do, it can still leave you vulnerable to a punish afterwards, depending on the projectile.

NoS... what?
Also what the hells is this nesslock? Spamming PK-Fire? (smash DI exists yo.)

I'm gonna assume it has something to do with his forward air, for which yeah DI still exists

[Maelstrom]

Basically, his entire strategy while playing against me was spam PK fire and follow up with a grab. I just stank at punishing after I rolled out of it backwards.

[mikey]

PK fire (especially while airborne) usually disables them for a couple frames (longer while airborne); if you're right next to them (which happened quite a bit with mael when he missed backslash lol) you can follow up with a grab, punch em a few times, then down throw before they can get out of the grab, then hit them with a PK thunder while they can't move from the down throw.  When all is said and done you've got the damage from PK fire while damage from smacking +damage from down throw + a few pk thunders on em and usually they can't get out of it.  It works better with heavier characters also.

I was hoping dudeman would try out the lock but he didn't want to apparently (also when he played captain fabulous I rekt him )

[K-NiGhT]

Lol yep. Disabling up jump is basically the best thing you can do for yourself

I tried that a while ago, but for some reason I couldn't get the hang of it. I'm super used to using it, and i can usually pull off an up-tilt without difficulty. My problem is getting smashes instead of tilts

[Dudeman]

I was hoping dudeman would try out the lock but he didn't want to apparently

WE DID. That first match where you beat me, I waited around on my first stock assuming you would do the lock. You did. PK Fire to grab to pummel to down throw to PK Thunder. After I learned it I practiced getting around it. DI's for dayzzz.

(also when he played captain fabulous I rekt him )

Rekt? Ohhhhhhh what a joke. If you define rekt as playing as Duck Hunt and ONLY ROLLING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS FINAL DESTINATION WHILE SPAMMING THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SIDE- AND NEUTRAL-SPECIALS, then yes. I got rekt.

Learn to not spam. It's not fun. It doesn't feel like a challenge. It's just hella annoying. That match with Bowser Jr. nearly did it for me. God, that was dumb.

[mikey]

Oy the bowser jr match was me trying to make the jump on my bowser kart for 2 stocks!
And that was my first time playing duck hunt trio lol I only had time to figure out what those 2 moves did before you chose your character.

[FierceDeity]

PK fire (especially while airborne) usually disables them for a couple frames (longer while airborne); if you're right next to them (which happened quite a bit with mael when he missed backslash lol) you can follow up with a grab, punch em a few times, then down throw before they can get out of the grab, then hit them with a PK thunder while they can't move from the down throw.  When all is said and done you've got the damage from PK fire while damage from smacking +damage from down throw + a few pk thunders on em and usually they can't get out of it.  It works better with heavier characters also.

I was hoping dudeman would try out the lock but he didn't want to apparently (also when he played captain fabulous I rekt him )

Lol no yeah, directional influence kinda pokes some major holes in this strat. I just tried it against a few people in for glory to be sure, and even against a bad Ike, it was still pretty ineffective (despite kicking their ass, regardless). Also, I'm having a really hard time seeing how PK thunder could ever be a part of a true combo; horizontal knockback on his dthrow is far too high for it to reach them before they can air dodge it. (A much better combo is short hopping into his forward air)

I tried that a while ago, but for some reason I couldn't get the hang of it. I'm super used to using it, and i can usually pull off an up-tilt without difficulty. My problem is getting smashes instead of tilts

That setting kinda solved that issue for me, too; without worrying about accidentally jumping, it's a lot simpler to just tap A rather than accidentally holding over, imo. Then again, I never used up to jump in the first place, so meh

WE DID. That first match where you beat me, I waited around on my first stock assuming you would do the lock. You did. PK Fire to grab to pummel to down throw to PK Thunder. After I learned it I practiced getting around it. DI's for dayzzz.Rekt? Ohhhhhhh what a joke. If you define rekt as playing as Duck Hunt and ONLY ROLLING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS FINAL DESTINATION WHILE SPAMMING THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SIDE- AND NEUTRAL-SPECIALS, then yes. I got rekt.

Learn to not spam. It's not fun. It doesn't feel like a challenge. It's just hella annoying. That match with Bowser Jr. nearly did it for me. God, that was dumb.

Granted, succumbing to spam is almost as bad as resorting to it...not quite, but almost
But yeah, playing a match oversaturated with spam is no fun, win or lose. Shame on you, noc.

[mikey]

isn't spam a relative term

[Dudeman]

Is it easier to DI to the side or up out of PK Fire? Does anyone know?

[FierceDeity]

Depends where you're hit, but up is typically easier to avoid grab with, side is easier to avoid further fire damage with.

[mikey]

imo it worked pretty successfully against maelstrom