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#2
Quote from: Yug_Guy on April 23, 2024, 05:44:28 PMNow that I'm going through this, I'm wondering if maybe I should do a full transcription so I have something to base this off of...
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/aax7swnqyxns4ihfxwg5n/AEbSZph8Abtj_k6TTisBSOM?rlkey=ghdvf5ucsie5r3a4ljprsmh9a&st=nmtcbj3c&dl=0
Welp, I guess that answers that question

Needless to say, I've updated this sheet to reflect my current transcription of this song. Hopefully that should have gotten most, if not all, of Kricketune's feedback from the last post.


Also, you might have noticed that in the transcription I've titled it "Battle! (Trainer Battle)". I would like to change this sheet to that as well with approval, and here is my reasoning:
  • Unlike the Stadium themes, the battle music for Gym Leader Castle are like more straightforward covers of the R/B/Y Battle music than remixes
  • And in the official Pokemon Stadium Sound CD, the Stadium Music is named [Stadium Name][Number] (e.g. "Pika Cup 2")
  • Thus, to me at least, it makes sense to consider this a cover of R/B/Y's Battle Music, and thus, share its name
#3
So I totally didn't realize I had gotten feedback and now I feel stupid. Anyway, I'll try and mention all the changes (if I don't quote something, it probably means I did it and don't have anything to say about it)

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 24, 2024, 08:49:14 PM• The tempo is in a different font than the current templates (Maestro Times and Times New Roman are what they should be for notehead and bpm # respectively
I just had the default Finale stuff, hopefully it should be good now.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 24, 2024, 08:49:14 PM• m19 1.0 and 4.0, and m20 3.0 the Dn sounds slightly longer, could remove the staccato, or add an accent as well? Would apply also for m23 and 24 same spots
   • For these same mentioned measures as well, also not hearing the parallel thirds underneath the notes.
Yeah, the thirds aren't there. My bad

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 24, 2024, 08:49:14 PM• m37 RH you could add the fall on beat 2.0 (the Gn). Could have it end before beat 3, but I also can understand excluding it given the notes on beat 3 LH. You could alternatively write beat 2 RH as a sextuplet (5 notes) - Gn, F#, En Dn C# or all notes after G I mentioned as grace notes. Could do something like this sheet: https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/5267 m19 RH before beat 3 for example.
I added a glissando for this, which should work just as well

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 24, 2024, 08:49:14 PM• m58-62 LH I do wonder if this part is a bit excessive - just listening to playback and midi with the collective LH's I have a hard time hearing the RH melody for Piano 1 here (though admittedly I had a hard time when removing any notes). I would lightly suggest removing the bottom An octave just so it's not three low octaves of An in the LH between both pianos. Feel free to stick with if you'd like for another updater opinion, but I do think there's a bit too much An at the moment here.
That's a fair point, fixed

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 24, 2024, 08:49:14 PM• m49 RH hearing grace notes as En and Fn
It's actually D-En-Fn, but fixed regardless

Quote from: Kricketune54 on March 24, 2024, 08:49:14 PM• m59 LH 4.5 hearing as Cn
• m61 1.0 hearing En, 1.5 An. 4.5 also as Cn
Turns out I had both of these parts completely wrong. Should be fixed now.

Now that I'm going through this, I'm wondering if maybe I should do a full transcription so I have something to base this off of...
#6
After looking through my old arrangements, I was shocked at how well this one held up. All it needed was a little polish!


While Pokémon Stadium had some of its music released onto a soundtrack, this particular piece wasn't on it and also the titles are strange and I hate it.

Tried my best to keep both piano parts interesting & swapped the main melody between the both of them. I think this is technically my first Two Piano submission? So, let me know if there's anything I can do. 
#7
Quote from: Bloop on March 16, 2024, 03:23:55 AMThis looks very nice, notes all look good!


Quote from: Bloop on March 16, 2024, 03:23:55 AM-The game title and arranger text look like they're a bit far from the song title and composer text, maybe you could raise them a bit?
Let me know if that's any better

Quote from: Bloop on March 16, 2024, 03:23:55 AM-Optionally, you could try imitating the drums with the bass pattern into something like this:
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So pretty much using the bass notes an octave lower than the original for bass drums, and fill the empty spaces where the snare hits are with a C an octave above.
I thought about it, but I don't think I'm going to do this. I had thought about putting in a con pedale to match the reverb on the melody and alleviate some of the same issues you're getting at, but it didn't sound good when I tried it.



#8

This thread will now be used to talk about controversial Batman opinions. I'm sure the updaters will love it!

Here's the link to the transcription I did of this song that I used as a reference: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/8il4m8i78sy93etlz9id1/h?rlkey=fst5xueox2cwb2lr0y7qyp4jc&dl=0
#9
Project Archive / Re: Yug's 'Too Hot To Handle' Sheet(s)
November 19, 2023, 02:35:10 PM
Went over it a little with Bloop over Discord, ended up taking the small noteheads idea as seen here:
Quote from: Bloop on October 31, 2023, 11:34:28 AM-You could notate the guitar voice in smaller noteheads and leave a note saying they're optional

Let me know if you have any other issues.
#10
Project Archive / Re: Yug's 'Too Hot To Handle' Sheet(s)
November 18, 2023, 09:39:26 AM
I've been looking over this feedback & while I absolutely see where you're coming from, I just cannot bring myself to do these kinds of changes. I've never been one to significantly change any part of the original song for the sake of transference to piano, even if that leaves the piece a bit lacking. I guess I expect others to perform arrangements like these the same way that I do: by leaving out any of the bits that are too hard or impractical.

Not really sure where to go from here tbh.
#11
Quote from: Bloop on October 18, 2023, 06:15:11 AMNo worries, there's still quite a bit of space left on the first page to move around dynamics and stuff ^^
I think I've got it. Let me know if it's too cramped.

Quote from: Bloop on October 18, 2023, 06:15:11 AMAs close to the original doesn't have to be as close to the original pitches, imo: the lowest octave on the piano sounds more rumbly compared to the same notes on a bass guitar. By moving them up an octave. Lately I've been thinking a bit more about playability and the sound of an arrangement, and sometimes trying to include as much as possible won't necessarily sound better or play more easily.
Yeah, I guess I'm too used to notating exact pitches lol.

I've taken out the 8vb and left a note saying that the bass can be optionally double one octave down.

Quote from: Bloop on October 18, 2023, 06:15:11 AMMy problem wasn't necessarily with the time needed to reach the notes, but more that the tied notes aren't able to be held down for their full length (or even an portion of their length), if you want the player to reach some notes of the guitar voice. For example, in m81-82, the player would need to release the E of the C-E dyad in layer 1 on beat 2 of m81 already, and by m82 beat two there's no way for the R.H. to hold the dyad. Using the pedal will also hold the notes in the L.H., which might work too actually, but may sound a bit weird compared to the rest of the song.
Whenever I have a held note + some accompaniment, I don't usually expect the performer to hold down the note for the length written. I suppose I could just let it be quarter notes instead, but that just feels wrong.

Honestly, I'm kinda stumped on what to do here. Do you have any advice?
#12
Quote from: Bloop on October 17, 2023, 01:14:10 PM-m1: The f at the L.H. could be moved right a bit so it's centered under the first note.
Done

Quote from: Bloop on October 17, 2023, 01:14:10 PM-m1-16: The (tremolo) strings are quite high, maybe you could move these octave tremolos an octave up (i.e. adding an 8va)?
While I like this idea, I'm not sure if adding 8va's to the page would even fit on the page.

Quote from: Bloop on October 17, 2023, 01:14:10 PM-m65 until end: There are some parts where you tried adding back in the guitar voice when the piano or synth are holding long notes, but some of these aren't physically playable because of the distance or the finger acrobatics required. Maybe you could recheck what parts are playable and which aren't, and try to see if the L.H. can play some of these notes instead, or if it's better to change octaves or just leave out the voice (the latter would have my personal preference I think)
Yeah, probably better to give at least one extra beat of rest to reach a note. I ended up scrapping the accompaniment in m74-75 though, since it would have only been two notes.

Quote from: Bloop on October 17, 2023, 01:14:10 PM-I'm not sure if the L.H. necessarily needs to be an octave down? When it keeps to the A-F range it's still alright, but the D's in m73 start to get a bit low and rumbly, and together with the very high piano part there's a lot of empty space in the middle. Another thing you could do instead of moving everything up an octave, is moving most off-beat 8th notes in the L.H. up an octave, so the swung notes are a bit easier to play and also the low to low-mid register is a bit more filled up.
So, I went and double-checked, but I believe that the pitches for the bassline for this arrangement are one-to-one with the pitches in the original song. Now, I am more than willing to shift the whole thing up an octave, but I know that our policy is "as close to the original as possible." If you're okay with me breaking form, then I'll do it.
#13
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September 30, 2023, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: Bloop on September 26, 2023, 02:31:32 AM[3DS] Tomodachi Life
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#14
Project Archive / Re: Yug's 'Too Hot To Handle' Sheet(s)
September 16, 2023, 11:37:10 AM
Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 09, 2023, 08:24:11 PMHmm I'm still seeing all the parentheses displaying the way that they were previously. Screenshotted current file of what I'm seeing (maybe it's a Finale version thing if this looks differently on your end, but see my example in the previous post. I was saying to center the parentheses on the notehead, a bit like how m36 is currently
I was trying to use the arrow keys to move the parenthesis, but clearly it was not moving to the level of precision needed. Should be finally finished, now.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 09, 2023, 08:24:11 PMYou could move this up an octave for playability, but I suppose it's not hurting anything to be visually consistent 
I'll keep the visual consistency. I think it communicates important information to the performer.
#15
Project Archive / Re: Yug's 'Too Hot To Handle' Sheet(s)
September 07, 2023, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 04, 2023, 06:23:17 PMNot to be a total stickler but was thinking something a little more centered on the notehead for m29,35, and 37

m77 RH you could drag the 8va symbol's tail end out a little so it looks like this, I think this would make it a little more obvious that it's a continuation from last page and that it ends, but not a big deal
Done

Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 04, 2023, 06:23:17 PMFor m35 RH beat 1 how is the A intended to be played? I understand it's parenthesied but I'm not sure it's possible in any way, maybe just exclude or move up an octave?
I think I'm mostly just keeping it there for consistency's sake; just so there's not one out-of-place rest ruining everything. Though, if you really want me to remove it, I'll do it.