Super Smash Bros Fisticuffs for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS

[FierceDeity]

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure noc's question about ledgeguarding came from my using the term, so let me clarify
"Ledge guarding" used to refer to grabbing onto a ledge so that an opponent couldn't, and if they can't hit you off or land onstage when coming from offstage, they fall embarrassingly to their deaths. But since that no longer happens in ssb4 (now that you can steal ledges from another player), I typically now use it to refer to guarding ledges with attacks in a general sense, especially with moves like Captain Falcon's up and down tilts, and Little Mac's down smash. Not sure if there's a better term for that.

And yeah, a meteor smash (also known as a spike) offstage from ground level or below (on most stages, depends on the height I guess) will be an auto-death for all characters at or above I wanna say 50% damage or so? You'll frequently get kills far below that, but some characters have bamf recovery moves that make it impossible to kill them with it unless you can hit them directly offscreen before they can perform actions again.

As for why you should use it, if you have the opportunity to kill somebody at such a low percentage, you should take it, if that wasn't already clear lol

And yeah Toon Link has a meteor smash but it's pretty risky imo, because it's pretty easy to predict and air dodge a lot of the time, and missing your down air offstage is kinda gonna fuck you over

As far as I'm aware, these are the only characters without meteor smashes:
-Jigglypuff
-Fox, without custom moves
-Wario, without final smash
-Dr. Mario (though his back air is a decent semi-spike)
-Little Mac without final smash or custom moves (not that an aerial spike would be all that useful)
-Pac-Man without custom moves
-idk about mewtwo

And I don't think I have anything to add to these guys' explanation of tilts.

Example of all three in one sentence:
If you hit somebody just right by ledgeguarding with Captain Falcon's up tilt, you'll get a meteor smash.

[mikey]

ok!
one more question: Is there anybody who hasn't put in their smash 3ds code yet who wants mewtwo?

[FireArrow]

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure noc's question about ledgeguarding came from my using the term, so let me clarify
"Ledge guarding" used to refer to grabbing onto a ledge so that an opponent couldn't, and if they can't hit you off or land onstage when coming from offstage, they fall embarrassingly to their deaths. But since that no longer happens in ssb4 (now that you can steal ledges from another player), I typically now use it to refer to guarding ledges with attacks in a general sense, especially with moves like Captain Falcon's up and down tilts, and Little Mac's down smash. Not sure if there's a better term for that.

Ugh, let me be an asshole for a second and correct you.

Ledgeguarding has always referred to keeping the opponent off the stage, whether it be spamming marth's F-Smash or jumping out and knocking them away.

The word you're looking for is edgehogging, which yeah, doesn't exist anymore.

[FierceDeity]

Oh wait nevermind you're right. I kinda second guessed myself because of this:

Well i don't think you have to worry about ledgeguarding, since that's not in Smash 4.

so I went with the whole "damage control by pretending to have been using the wrong term on purpose" thing

But then again I was never quite that sure, I suppose. The two terms are pretty similar after all haha.
And I guess technically speaking, edge hogging was a form of ledge guarding

[Yugi]

ok!
one more question: Is there anybody who hasn't put in their smash 3ds code yet who wants mewtwo?

I might use it

[FierceDeity]

I've come to realize I won't be getting a WiiU by the time this stops being available so yeah sure I'll do it if yugi doesn't

[mikey]

Whoever PMs me their registration code first gets mewtwo lol

[mikey]

Which amiibos are the "rare" ones

[Dudeman]

Marth and Villager, off the top of my head. Wave 3 is gonna be super rare when it releases.

[Maelstrom]

Which amiibos are the "rare" ones

Marth, WFT and Villager are reffered to as the "holy trinity."
As of now, CF, Pit, and Little Mac
All the retailer exclusives in wave 3 will be incredibly rare. And everything else. 

[Maelstrom]

I don't know if this is true yet or not, but here:
http://i.imgur.com/F9HPEnm.jpg

[K-NiGhT]

Pretty sure this is false, due to the fact that it looks like a shitty word document that anyone could have typed up, and the fact that I'm pretty sure Nintendo has stated that the wave is going to be released on the 1st.

[mikey]

So like if you register both games does mewtwo just appear in both of them or what
(also whoever gives it to me I'll probably figure out a way to send you the OST after I've copied it onto my laptop)

[K-NiGhT]

So like if you register both games does mewtwo just appear in both of them or what
(also whoever gives it to me I'll probably figure out a way to send you the OST after I've copied it onto my laptop)

it's DLC, which means you'll have to download it from online of course. It doesn't come out until sometime in the spring

also you may have missed the deadline

[mikey]

Oh shoot I did :X
I really like smash 4's music :/