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Alright here is the revised arrangement! I didn't add those eighth notes in the countermelody because I thought they would conflict with the melody, but that melody should now be correct. I also moved the middle voice to the left hand as suggested.
Quote from: Libera on March 25, 2019, 09:11:53 AMJust popping in to say a couple of things.

There are definitely some issues with muddling of voices at the moment.  For reference, these are the first sixteen bars of the piece, with the melody written in the top staff and the countermelody written in the bottom staff.  I've put in lines that show where you jump around in your arrangement in what you are notating as the melody.

Generally speaking this is not what you want in an arrangement.  Above all, the melody should be easy to find and bring out while you are playing, which is just not the case here because you jump between parts so frequently.  Particularly of note is the lack of the D -> C# in bar 7-8, and the Bs on beat 3 in bars 2, 6 and 10 (which I think is what Latios was talking about.)  The way to get around this is by using multiple voices, but the second voice is currently being taken up by another part in the right hand and going to three voices is going to be way too confusing I think.
Thank you for the explanation, I think I understand what Latios was describing now! My ear was confusing the two lines but now that I see it written out it it's easier to pick out those melody notes. I'll try re-arranging some stuff tomorrow when I get the chance!

Quote from: Libera on March 25, 2019, 09:11:53 AMOn a different note I'd like to say that I don't think the high string parts are worth including (for playability and clarity reasons), and that I agree with Latios on moving the final right hand notes down an octave (as that is what the melody line does).
I had a reason for the way I did it but that also makes sense, I think it'll sound fine either way so I'm happy to change it if that's what people think will sound better :)

Thanks again to both of you for the help (and patience)!
Quote from: Latios212 on March 23, 2019, 10:58:40 AMThat's fine if you want to keep the upper voice notes! I'd avoid sticking anything else near the inner voice since it'll likely get too cramped, but you can consider writing in the main melody along with the upper voice where the main melody is currently absent, like writing in the B in m. 6 beat 3, D on m. 7 beat 1, and C# on beat 3 and other similar spots. Another thing to consider is that the left hand can easily play both the lower and middle voices, so you have a bit of room to fiddle with the upper right hand part if you like.
I'm afraid I'm not hearing the missing melody notes you're referring to, which instrument are they in? To me it sounds like the clarinet and flute are playing a complementary line that makes up the main melody and the strings are playing pads in the background (which I left out of the arrangement for playability's sake). I hadn't thought about the left hand playing both lower lines though, so if the string parts are more important than I realized maybe I could re-arrange some stuff and fit them in.

Quote from: Latios212 on March 23, 2019, 10:58:40 AMYou're welcome! (Though m. 23 beat 2 still isn't E :P)
Aaah I thought I had updated the attached files but I must have re-attached the old ones by accident, it should be fixed now.
Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMFor measures 2, 6-7, and 10 the top layer you wrote in doesn't follow the melody that's written elsewhere. Is it meant to be a combination of the main melody and the higher voice?
It is meant to be a combination of the melody and upper voice, for some reason I've always heard those as part of the same melody and it sounds pretty bare without the upper voice to my ears. Perhaps it would make more sense to sustain the melody note through those bars and have the extra notes as part of the second layer with the inner voice?

Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMAside from that, beat 2 of measure 23 (LH) should be an E instead of a D, and the RH rhythm in m. 26 is incorrect. I also think the octave in the last measure would be better off lowered by an octave, but that's up to you. The original also has a quarter rest at the end of the loop instead of holding the A's throughout the entire last measure.
I was having a lot of trouble hearing the inner notes in measure 23 so you're probably right, thanks! And my bad on those rhythms, I'll get those fixed up as well :P

I'm a little torn on the octaves at the end, I could see some benefits and disadvantages either way. My reasoning behind the way I did it was to reflect the outer notes of the orchestration (with the flute up on that high A). Maybe another option would be have the left hand sustain the A4 above that eighth note phrase it plays to fill out the lower end a bit, what's your feeling on that?

Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMGreat first submission :3
Thank you! And thanks for the corrections/suggestions as well, it's really helpful!
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 20, 2019, 01:59:42 PMYou sure you want underscores in your arranger name? We can work some fancy magic if you want that changed.

Actually, I prefer the underscores if that's okay. Thanks for asking though!
Submission #2!

Submission #1!

Quote from: on March 17, 2019, 05:21:56 PMI wouldn't know enough theory to give you honest thoughts about beaming in that case, but what if I were to change the third LH 8th note in each measure to a quarter? That might solve the problem, and even if the MIDI will sound different, that won't matter.

I think it could be done either way. Using a quarter note is a more conventional rhythm and as the arranger you could choose to write it that way to make it more familiar to anyone reading it and leave the interpretation up to the performer. But if your intention is to replicate the sound of the original as closely as possible, with each note being of equal length, then you might choose to keep it as eighth notes (though I'd still suggest breaking the beams into beats for readability). It's entirely in your creative license as arranger to do it whichever way suits your goal for the arrangement!
Yay more Dragon Warrior/Quest music!!

Quote from: on March 15, 2019, 07:45:01 PMSimple enough piece. Glad this one worked so well, especially with the LH stave-crossing.
Maybe this is just me but I'd probably just play those thirds in the right hand and leave the left hand out on those beats so I don't have to make those large leaps. I'm not an amazing piano player though so that's just my unqualified opinion :)

Quote from: on March 15, 2019, 07:45:01 PMAccidentals were (slightly) easier on this one. But I went out of my way to make that battle intro happen, so y'all better appreciate it.
I think many would agree that the battle theme just doesn't feel right without that intro so good call!

My only comment on this arrangement is that it might be easier to read if the eighth notes in the left hand (starting at measure 3) were separated into beats instead of being beamed all together--something about seeing three eighth notes beamed together in 4/4 is a little jarring for me. But I'm not sure if that's an actual rule or just my personal preference, and it's a pretty minor complaint.

Anyways good job on these three sheets, and since this is my first time in your thread I also want to say congrats on all the successful arrangements you've made thus far!!
Help! / Re: The "Who Composed This?" Topic
March 14, 2019, 11:50:05 AM
Hey everyone, I was hoping to arrange some of the music from Harvest Moon DS. Unfortunately, the only sources I could find for this game list no less than six composers! I haven't been able to find a breakdown of tracks, would it be appropriate to list all six composers of collaborators? Or alternately if any one has other ideas of sources to check I'd love to hear that too :)

Link to sources:
Thanks to both of you for the feedback! I've moved the elements you suggested, Sebastian.

Although this is my first piano arrangement I have done a fair bit of arranging for various ensembles, including an orchestration course with a prof who was very strict about notation and engraving. The music on this site has been very helpful to me through the years so I'm happy to contribute if I can!

EDIT: Just wanted to add recordings of the first two songs I arranged so here they are!

Harvest Moon 64 - Spring

Harvest Moon 64 - Fall

Welcome to my collection of piano arrangements! As you can probably tell, my favourite series to arrange from is the Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons series, but I do arrangements from other games as well.

Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons/Rune Factory arrangements
Sorted by release date

Harvest Moon (SNES)

Winter: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Star Night Festival: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Town Theme: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Harvest Moon 64 (N64)

Fall: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Flower Festival Dancing: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Harvest Goddess Spring: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Moon Mountain: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Name Entry: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Spring: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Title Theme: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Harvest Moon 2 GBC (GBC)

Spring: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Winter: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town (GBA)

Fall: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Summer: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Title Theme: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life (GCN)

Gustafa's Yurt: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Quiet Winter (Song of Silence): [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Harvest Moon DS (NDS)

Spring: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Winter: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Innocent Life: A Futuristic Harvest Moon (PSP)

Easter Ruins: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility (Wii)

Cooking: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Harvest Moon: Animal Parade (Wii)

Something Spooky...: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Rune Factory 4 (3DS)

Obsidian Mansion: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original] - Collaboration with Samusthedude

Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town (SW)

Autumn (Alternate): [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Megami Tensei/Persona arrangements
Sorted by release date

Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible Special

Opening: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Persona 3 (PS2)

Aria of the Soul: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original] - Collaboration with Samusthedude

Persona 4 (PS2)

Game: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Persona 5 (MUL)

Big Bang Burger March: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Layer Cake: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Our Beginning: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Star Forneus: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Welcome Home, Master!: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original] - Collaboration with Samusthedude

Other arrangements
Sorted alphabetically by game title

AI: The Somnium Files

Awakening Interval: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Anticipation (NES)

Puzzle Themes: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Bravely Default (3DS)

Beneath The Hollow Moon: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (NDS)

The Sun Gathering Village: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Final Fantasy VII (PS1)

Costa del Sol: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Fire Emblem Heroes (MOB)

Climb the Sky: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak (GBA)

Sandy Bay: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Hamtaro: Ham-Hams Unite! (GBC)

Acorn Shrine: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

The Legend of the Mystical Ninja (SNES)

Rendevous With That Girl: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Sentiment of Travelers in Hagure Town: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Pinball Fantasies (Amiga)

Party Land: Intro: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

RollerCoaster Tycoon (PC)

Title Theme: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Snowboard Kids (N64)

Rookie Mountain/Ninja Land: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Stardew Valley (PC)

Frozen Pizza and Eggs (Shane's Theme): [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Piano Solo (Elliott's Theme): [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Spirit's Eve Festival: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Tetris (GB)

2 Player - Danger! (Toréador Song): [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
2 Player - Results: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
B-Type Fanfares (Trepak Variations): [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Game Over/Stage Clear: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]
Rocket Launch (Ending): [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Tomodachi Life (3DS)

Letter: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Zoo Tycoon (PC)

Title Theme: [MUSX] [MUS] [PDF] [MIDI] [Original]

Other information

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Blue = submitted
Red = new
Purple = collaboration
Strikethrough = resolved issues (in posts)

First arrangement = Harvest Moon 64 - Spring
Latest arrangement = Zoo Tycoon - Title Theme
Arrangements = 56
HM/SoS arrangements = 23
Collaborative arrangements = 3
On-site arrangements = 43
Games arranged from = 32
HM/SoS games arranged from = 10
Most arrangements from a single game: 7 (Harvest Moon 64)

Thanks for visiting my arrangement collection! Feedback is always appreciated.
The Super Mario Bros theme was actually the one of the first songs I ever tried to play on the piano. I think I was about 8 or so when I started picking out the notes off of an arrangement my dad had printed out for himself. I only ever learned the right hand part but I know it to this day. I never took piano lessons so it was primarily through doing stuff like that that I taught myself to play in the first place.
Off-Topic / Re: The Introduction Thread
March 09, 2019, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: Splatoon Inkling on March 08, 2019, 11:36:58 AMWelcome to the forums code! We are glad to have you here!

Quote from: Bobbythekid21 on March 08, 2019, 09:54:22 AMWelcome to the forum Code!

Thank you both! I'm excited to be here!
Off-Topic / Re: The Introduction Thread
March 08, 2019, 09:09:22 AM
Hello! My name is Code and I've been lurking on the main site and playing through all the wonderful arrangements here since I was 13 years old, but now that I'm more experienced I'm hoping to contribute some of my own work. I'm mainly a trumpet player but video game music is one of my passions.