Alright here is the revised arrangement! I didn't add those eighth notes in the countermelody because I thought they would conflict with the melody, but that melody should now be correct. I also moved the middle voice to the left hand as suggested.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Libera on March 25, 2019, 09:11:53 AMJust popping in to say a couple of things.Thank you for the explanation, I think I understand what Latios was describing now! My ear was confusing the two lines but now that I see it written out it it's easier to pick out those melody notes. I'll try re-arranging some stuff tomorrow when I get the chance!
There are definitely some issues with muddling of voices at the moment. For reference, these are the first sixteen bars of the piece, with the melody written in the top staff and the countermelody written in the bottom staff. I've put in lines that show where you jump around in your arrangement in what you are notating as the melody.
Generally speaking this is not what you want in an arrangement. Above all, the melody should be easy to find and bring out while you are playing, which is just not the case here because you jump between parts so frequently. Particularly of note is the lack of the D -> C# in bar 7-8, and the Bs on beat 3 in bars 2, 6 and 10 (which I think is what Latios was talking about.) The way to get around this is by using multiple voices, but the second voice is currently being taken up by another part in the right hand and going to three voices is going to be way too confusing I think.
Quote from: Libera on March 25, 2019, 09:11:53 AMOn a different note I'd like to say that I don't think the high string parts are worth including (for playability and clarity reasons), and that I agree with Latios on moving the final right hand notes down an octave (as that is what the melody line does).I had a reason for the way I did it but that also makes sense, I think it'll sound fine either way so I'm happy to change it if that's what people think will sound better
Quote from: Latios212 on March 23, 2019, 10:58:40 AMThat's fine if you want to keep the upper voice notes! I'd avoid sticking anything else near the inner voice since it'll likely get too cramped, but you can consider writing in the main melody along with the upper voice where the main melody is currently absent, like writing in the B in m. 6 beat 3, D on m. 7 beat 1, and C# on beat 3 and other similar spots. Another thing to consider is that the left hand can easily play both the lower and middle voices, so you have a bit of room to fiddle with the upper right hand part if you like.I'm afraid I'm not hearing the missing melody notes you're referring to, which instrument are they in? To me it sounds like the clarinet and flute are playing a complementary line that makes up the main melody and the strings are playing pads in the background (which I left out of the arrangement for playability's sake). I hadn't thought about the left hand playing both lower lines though, so if the string parts are more important than I realized maybe I could re-arrange some stuff and fit them in.
Quote from: Latios212 on March 23, 2019, 10:58:40 AMYou're welcome! (Though m. 23 beat 2 still isn't E )Aaah I thought I had updated the attached files but I must have re-attached the old ones by accident, it should be fixed now.
Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMFor measures 2, 6-7, and 10 the top layer you wrote in doesn't follow the melody that's written elsewhere. Is it meant to be a combination of the main melody and the higher voice?It is meant to be a combination of the melody and upper voice, for some reason I've always heard those as part of the same melody and it sounds pretty bare without the upper voice to my ears. Perhaps it would make more sense to sustain the melody note through those bars and have the extra notes as part of the second layer with the inner voice?
Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMAside from that, beat 2 of measure 23 (LH) should be an E instead of a D, and the RH rhythm in m. 26 is incorrect. I also think the octave in the last measure would be better off lowered by an octave, but that's up to you. The original also has a quarter rest at the end of the loop instead of holding the A's throughout the entire last measure.I was having a lot of trouble hearing the inner notes in measure 23 so you're probably right, thanks! And my bad on those rhythms, I'll get those fixed up as well
Quote from: Latios212 on March 20, 2019, 04:52:30 PMGreat first submission :3Thank you! And thanks for the corrections/suggestions as well, it's really helpful!
Quote from: Maelstrom on March 20, 2019, 01:59:42 PMYou sure you want underscores in your arranger name? We can work some fancy magic if you want that changed.
Quote from: LeviR.star on March 17, 2019, 05:21:56 PMI wouldn't know enough theory to give you honest thoughts about beaming in that case, but what if I were to change the third LH 8th note in each measure to a quarter? That might solve the problem, and even if the MIDI will sound different, that won't matter.
Quote from: LeviR.star on March 15, 2019, 07:45:01 PMSimple enough piece. Glad this one worked so well, especially with the LH stave-crossing.Maybe this is just me but I'd probably just play those thirds in the right hand and leave the left hand out on those beats so I don't have to make those large leaps. I'm not an amazing piano player though so that's just my unqualified opinion
Quote from: LeviR.star on March 15, 2019, 07:45:01 PMAccidentals were (slightly) easier on this one. But I went out of my way to make that battle intro happen, so y'all better appreciate it.I think many would agree that the battle theme just doesn't feel right without that intro so good call!
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